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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 18, 2024 22:08:24 GMT
Malcolm,could the pending election mean the independent regulator gets delayed or kicked into the long grass even? Good question ! Complacency is always dangerous but we don't think so. The Government are committed to bringing it forward in this Parliament and, unlike most issues, the opposition are supportive. I suspect no politicians see it as a vote loser ! How many people do you know who say - today's football is fine, if it ain't broke don't fix it ! (apart from the Premier League that is !  ). We understand that even if the election is called in May it is likely to be in the measures which the front benches agree to fast track through before Parliament is dissolved. And even if that doesn't happen, if Labour win they have said they will do it in the first 100 days. We are more concerned that the wording on financial distribution might not be as strong as we want, than we are about the whole thing not happening. And there will be plenty of other good stuff in there apart from that point. The Government are holding a press conference tomorrow at Leyton Orient to launch the Bill for the new regulator. So it will go through the current Parliament. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 19, 2024 12:20:39 GMT
Malcolm,could the pending election mean the independent regulator gets delayed or kicked into the long grass even? Good question ! Complacency is always dangerous but we don't think so. The Government are committed to bringing it forward in this Parliament and, unlike most issues, the opposition are supportive. I suspect no politicians see it as a vote loser ! How many people do you know who say - today's football is fine, if it ain't broke don't fix it ! (apart from the Premier League that is ! ). We understand that even if the election is called in May it is likely to be in the measures which the front benches agree to fast track through before Parliament is dissolved. And even if that doesn't happen, if Labour win they have said they will do it in the first 100 days. We are more concerned that the wording on financial distribution might not be as strong as we want, than we are about the whole thing not happening. And there will be plenty of other good stuff in there apart from that point. Reading the comments section on the BBC report there seems to be a lot of scepticism that the independent regulator will be as ineffective as all the other independent regulators, such as those appointed for water and energy, have been. Is there any guarantee that things will change or will the Premier just be too powerful and carry on regardless? |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 19, 2024 12:33:41 GMT
Good question ! Complacency is always dangerous but we don't think so. The Government are committed to bringing it forward in this Parliament and, unlike most issues, the opposition are supportive. I suspect no politicians see it as a vote loser ! How many people do you know who say - today's football is fine, if it ain't broke don't fix it ! (apart from the Premier League that is ! ). We understand that even if the election is called in May it is likely to be in the measures which the front benches agree to fast track through before Parliament is dissolved. And even if that doesn't happen, if Labour win they have said they will do it in the first 100 days. We are more concerned that the wording on financial distribution might not be as strong as we want, than we are about the whole thing not happening. And there will be plenty of other good stuff in there apart from that point. Reading the comments section on the BBC report there seems to be a lot of scepticism that the independent regulator will be as ineffective as all the other independent regulators, such as those appointed for water and energy, have been. Is there any guarantee that things will change or will the Premier just be too powerful and carry on regardless? Well we certainly hope not ! The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We will scrutinise the wording of the Bill and if we feel that the regulator powers are not strong enough , we will be working with parliamentarians to try to strengthen it. There is widespread, cross-party support for the need for a strong regulator. |
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Post by skip on Mar 19, 2024 12:35:08 GMT
Yes the same obnoxious Gary Lineker who single-handedly won them a Premier League title in a seriously compromised season in which each and every referee decision was given in their favour so much so that they ended up winning the league in spite of the fact that they played a wardrobe as center half. It was a complete farce that year. The FA wanted to create the myth that any team can win the EPL to further increase its global popularity (and of course, it’s revenue) and Leicester was the perfect fit for this carefully created fairytale the very same season that Leicester were also named as a team doping that all got hushed up and swept under a rug very quickly No bigger dopers than Arsenal and Liverpool allegedly*. I love the stories* that Wenger had all his squad have blood transfusions for no discernible reason, and more recently, that half of Liverpool FC players must asthmatic apparently given the industrial strength intravenous Vapour rub that they don't and never would ingest en-masse etc. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 19, 2024 12:55:37 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal.
Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty?
Or isn’t that how it works?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 19, 2024 14:07:01 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? That’s not how it works. We’d still manage to finish somewhere between 14-16th! |
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 19, 2024 14:27:45 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? As a child I would pray to God for a bicycle. Then I realised God didn’t work that way. So I stole a bicycle. And prayed for forgiveness. |
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 19, 2024 14:38:22 GMT
Good question ! Complacency is always dangerous but we don't think so. The Government are committed to bringing it forward in this Parliament and, unlike most issues, the opposition are supportive. I suspect no politicians see it as a vote loser ! How many people do you know who say - today's football is fine, if it ain't broke don't fix it ! (apart from the Premier League that is ! ). We understand that even if the election is called in May it is likely to be in the measures which the front benches agree to fast track through before Parliament is dissolved. And even if that doesn't happen, if Labour win they have said they will do it in the first 100 days. We are more concerned that the wording on financial distribution might not be as strong as we want, than we are about the whole thing not happening. And there will be plenty of other good stuff in there apart from that point. The Government are holding a press conference tomorrow at Leyton Orient to launch the Bill for the new regulator. So it will go through the current Parliament. Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. |
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 19, 2024 14:47:45 GMT
The Government are holding a press conference tomorrow at Leyton Orient to launch the Bill for the new regulator. So it will go through the current Parliament. Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. Bread and circuses |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 19, 2024 14:55:36 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? As a child I would pray to God for a bicycle. Then I realised God didn’t work that way. So I stole a bicycle. And prayed for forgiveness. The great Emo Philips 👍 |
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2024 15:37:50 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? By 'we', you must mean Bet 365? It's that company's money that you're suggesting spending. 💷 |
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2024 15:41:53 GMT
The Government are holding a press conference tomorrow at Leyton Orient to launch the Bill for the new regulator. So it will go through the current Parliament. Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. The government are simply trying to buy votes from the gullible 😝 |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 19, 2024 15:57:27 GMT
The Government are holding a press conference tomorrow at Leyton Orient to launch the Bill for the new regulator. So it will go through the current Parliament. Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. I don't see a contradiction between the two. This is DCMS legislation which is a not a department involved closely with the economy, immigration, the NHS etc. I'd rather they spend their time on this than attacking the BBC or whatever else they might be doing. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 19, 2024 15:58:36 GMT
Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. The government are simply trying to buy votes from the gullible 😝 Whatever their motivation, this legislation is good for football. Unusually, it has cross-party support. |
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Post by questionable on Mar 19, 2024 16:17:01 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? As a child I would pray to God for a bicycle. Then I realised God didn’t work that way. So I stole a bicycle. And prayed for forgiveness. p I prayed my wife had got me an Xbox for Xmas, turned out she’d got me a Wok, I’ve never forgive her |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 19, 2024 16:19:28 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? Seemingly not Forest over spent more than Everton did and both were charged with the same breach of FFP. one go 10 points reduced to 6 and one got 4, go figure! |
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Post by march4 on Mar 19, 2024 16:58:51 GMT
Forest have been deducted 4 points? Probably be reduced on appeal. Why don’t we spend £3B on players win this league by 30 points and accept our 4 point penalty? Or isn’t that how it works? That’s not how it works. We’d still manage to finish somewhere between 14-16th! True!! |
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2024 17:08:27 GMT
The government are simply trying to buy votes from the gullible 😝 Whatever their motivation, this legislation is good for football. Unusually, it has cross-party support. Malcolm I defer to your greater comprehension of these factors than me. But if someone with no quantifiable pecuniary investment is able to instruct the Piper (figurative) how he is allowed to influence the 'Tune' he wishes played. What is the likelihood that he may say "Sod It"! I'll invest my resource elsewhere? Apologies if this seems garbled but I've just had an enjoyable Lunchtime in the sun. 🌞 |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Mar 19, 2024 17:22:52 GMT
To the poster who said spend £30bn and get a 4 point deduction no not at all.
I do hope the EFL can enforce something here with Leicester.
I digress, no because clubs have to submit their next 2 years forecast financials by end of March if they lose over £15m in 3 years.
There can if clubs are difficult be early intervention to prevent breaches.
All Championship clubs voted for this in 2022 so they cannot now kick off.
The idea of +1 and +2 ia ro try and prevent breaches before they arise. Collaboration in the first instance but it can escalate to enforcement and referral, more restrictive Powers etc.
Sure Malcolm can fill in gaps here. A dispute over what constitutes 'T' was a big sticking point here hence the EFL couldn't enforce a Business Plan flowing from last year into this, but I assume Leicester still had to submit their actual last 2 and forecast for this year on 1st March.
If they are over to last and forecast to fail to this on the strength of the 1st March figures we're in uncharted territory.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 19, 2024 17:36:03 GMT
Whatever their motivation, this legislation is good for football. Unusually, it has cross-party support. Malcolm I defer to your greater comprehension of these factors than me. But if someone with no quantifiable pecuniary investment is able to instruct the Piper (figurative) how he is allowed to influence the 'Tune' he wishes played. What is the likelihood that he may say "Sod It"! I'll invest my resource elsewhere? Apologies if this seems garbled but I've just had an enjoyable Lunchtime in the sun. 🌞 It's about ensuring both that the game as a whole, and individual clubs, operate sustainably. Football, particularly the PL, generates huge amounts of income from TV rights, supplemented by what the fans pay. It doesn't actually need the distortion of mega-rich owners "investing" their money. I think the threat of them walking away shouldn't be a threat if the game is run properly and sustainably, and the income is properly distributed throughout the game. Where did you find the sun ? None here in Manchester  |
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2024 17:56:30 GMT
Malcolm I defer to your greater comprehension of these factors than me. But if someone with no quantifiable pecuniary investment is able to instruct the Piper (figurative) how he is allowed to influence the 'Tune' he wishes played. What is the likelihood that he may say "Sod It"! I'll invest my resource elsewhere? Apologies if this seems garbled but I've just had an enjoyable Lunchtime in the sun. 🌞 It's about ensuring both that the game as a whole, and individual clubs, operate sustainably. Football, particularly the PL, generates huge amounts of income from TV rights, supplemented by what the fans pay. It doesn't actually need the distortion of mega-rich owners "investing" their money. I think the threat of them walking away shouldn't be a threat if the game is run properly and sustainably, and the income is properly distributed throughout the game. Where did you find the sun ? None here in Manchester Corralejo, nicely mid 70°s (Old money of course) and Thanks for replying.😎 |
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Post by milton58 on Mar 19, 2024 18:48:45 GMT
It's about ensuring both that the game as a whole, and individual clubs, operate sustainably. Football, particularly the PL, generates huge amounts of income from TV rights, supplemented by what the fans pay. It doesn't actually need the distortion of mega-rich owners "investing" their money. I think the threat of them walking away shouldn't be a threat if the game is run properly and sustainably, and the income is properly distributed throughout the game. Where did you find the sun ? None here in Manchester Corralejo, nicely mid 70°s (Old money of course) and Thanks for replying.😎 corralejo absolutely lovely place |
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Post by hamsta2 on Mar 21, 2024 18:05:29 GMT
Leicester’s chicken has arrived home.
Breaking: #lcfc have been charged by the Premier League for an alleged breach of PSR, and for "failing to submit their audited financial accounts to the League". More to follow @telefootball
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Post by gaznandi on Mar 21, 2024 18:20:06 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 21, 2024 18:36:22 GMT
What a terrible bloody shame this is 😀
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 21, 2024 18:51:49 GMT
I just hope they don't get away with it...for a second time!  |
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Post by nickhfc on Mar 21, 2024 19:20:57 GMT
45 point penalty in the Championship sounds about right
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 21, 2024 19:33:12 GMT
No points deduction this season according to Rob Dorset on Sky.
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Post by baconburger on Mar 21, 2024 19:42:58 GMT
Much as I love The Potters and football you’d think the government would have more important pressures right now to worry about. They need to get their own house in order. The government are simply trying to buy votes from the gullible 😝 Don't they know about SJW, he'd be there like a shot Tory boy that he is. |
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Post by nickhfc on Mar 21, 2024 19:47:57 GMT
No points deduction this season according to Rob Dorset on Sky. Seems wrong to let them get promoted only to be hit with points deduction and certain relegation |
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). We understand that even if the election is called in May it is likely to be in the measures which the front benches agree to fast track through before Parliament is dissolved. And even if that doesn't happen, if Labour win they have said they will do it in the first 100 days. We are more concerned that the wording on financial distribution might not be as strong as we want, than we are about the whole thing not happening. And there will be plenty of other good stuff in there apart from that point. 
