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Post by moon on Feb 14, 2024 8:26:45 GMT
Good appointment for Vale, 5 1/2 years is mental though - especially if he has a bad start.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 14, 2024 8:28:32 GMT
Can’t help but feel that a really good appointment for them
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 14, 2024 8:44:47 GMT
Good luck to them.
Looks a good appointment, I guess they have promised him some funds to build also.
Prob be above us in the league table next year.
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 14, 2024 8:50:46 GMT
Good appointment but 5.5 years!?
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 14, 2024 9:43:18 GMT
Good appointment but 5.5 years!? They had to make it as appealing as possible to bag him
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 14, 2024 10:34:53 GMT
Good appointment but 5.5 years!? They had to make it as appealing as possible to bag him There are just 6 managers in the entire 4 leagues who've managed longer. It soon will be 5 when Kloppity goes and judging by Harrogate's result the other night maybe Simon Weaver nigh on 15 year stint is in trouble. The bottom line is no manager lasts 5 years any more, it just means a club is paying wages ad-nauseam long after the manager has left. Crazy situation.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 14, 2024 10:37:43 GMT
They had to make it as appealing as possible to bag him There are just 6 managers in the entire 4 leagues who've managed longer. It soon will be 5 when Kloppity goes and judging by Harrogate's result the other night maybe Simon Weaver nigh on 15 year stint is in trouble. The bottom line is no manager lasts 5 years any more, it just means a club is paying wages ad-nauseam long after the manager has left. Crazy situation. Exactly. Vale know this, it’s clearly for Moore’s benefit not Vales. They had to make it appealing. Or they could appoint another Crosby on peanuts for a year.
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Post by greenman on Feb 14, 2024 11:02:32 GMT
I can see us swapping with them in the future. Schumacher would be more at home at a club like Vale free from overpaid prima donnas and Moore would sort our defence out at least.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 14, 2024 11:07:56 GMT
Hopefully he fails miserably, they go down and the five and a half year contract sends them into financial ruin. Wish nothing but the worst for them.
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Post by walrus on Feb 14, 2024 11:39:38 GMT
Moore would sort our defence out at least. Is that the same Moore that was recently sacked by Huddersfield who have the third worst defensive record in the league and have conceded seven goals more than us?
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 14, 2024 11:54:43 GMT
Moore would sort our defence out at least. Is that the same Moore that was recently sacked by Huddersfield who have the third worst defensive record in the league and have conceded seven goals more than us? that's him.
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Post by mistergumby on Feb 14, 2024 12:02:57 GMT
Hopefully he fails miserably, they go down and the five and a half year contract sends them into financial ruin. Wish nothing but the worst for them. If you're thinking Moore will get the entire length of his contract paid up if he's sacked after 6 months on a 5.5 year contract, then I just might have some news for you. Only a very small number of people will know the minutiae of his terms of employment obviously, but I'd have a good bet he most likely won't get the balance outstanding paid in full if dismissed early. Despite what others have said on here, there is no guiding rule that applies across the board to settlements when managers have their employment terminated. Any footy fan will understand that clauses regarding compensation for sacking will usually be inserted into contracts after negotiation but won't know the terms are usually much less generous than people on here seem to think. Source? I have a blood relative who played for 20 years across divisions 2, 3 and 4 and is now in management/coaching (or whatever you might call it these days) at a respectable 3rd tier club. He's 8 months into a 3 year tenure and his agreement is 6 months salary on dismissal or redundancy, regardless of what length of time is left on his contract. He suggests that the bigger the club then those terms tend to improve, as you might expect. His best mate in footy is in a similar role at a Championship club (a league above) and his agreement is 9 months salary on dismissal.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 14, 2024 12:25:09 GMT
Hopefully he fails miserably, they go down and the five and a half year contract sends them into financial ruin. Wish nothing but the worst for them. If you're thinking Moore will get the entire length of his contract paid up if he's sacked after 6 months on a 5.5 year contract, then I just might have some news for you. Only a very small number of people will know the minutiae of his terms of employment obviously, but I'd have a good bet he most likely won't get the balance outstanding paid in full if dismissed early. Despite what others have said on here, there is no guiding rule that applies across the board to settlements when managers have their employment terminated. Any footy fan will understand that clauses regarding compensation for sacking will usually be inserted into contracts after negotiation but won't know the terms are usually much less generous than people on here seem to think. Source? I have a blood relative who played for 20 years across divisions 2, 3 and 4 and is now in management/coaching (or whatever you might call it these days) at a respectable 3rd tier club. He's 8 months into a 3 year tenure and his agreement is 6 months salary on dismissal or redundancy, regardless of what length of time is left on his contract. He suggests that the bigger the club then those terms tend to improve, as you might expect. His best mate in footy is in a similar role at a Championship club (a league above) and his agreement is 9 months salary on dismissal. I can but hope. If he's on decent money and still gets them relegated then that'll be good enough for me mate.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 14, 2024 12:28:09 GMT
Hopefully he fails miserably, they go down and the five and a half year contract sends them into financial ruin. Wish nothing but the worst for them. If you're thinking Moore will get the entire length of his contract paid up if he's sacked after 6 months on a 5.5 year contract, then I just might have some news for you. Only a very small number of people will know the minutiae of his terms of employment obviously, but I'd have a good bet he most likely won't get the balance outstanding paid in full if dismissed early. Despite what others have said on here, there is no guiding rule that applies across the board to settlements when managers have their employment terminated. Any footy fan will understand that clauses regarding compensation for sacking will usually be inserted into contracts after negotiation but won't know the terms are usually much less generous than people on here seem to think. Source? I have a blood relative who played for 20 years across divisions 2, 3 and 4 and is now in management/coaching (or whatever you might call it these days) at a respectable 3rd tier club. He's 8 months into a 3 year tenure and his agreement is 6 months salary on dismissal or redundancy, regardless of what length of time is left on his contract. He suggests that the bigger the club then those terms tend to improve, as you might expect. His best mate in footy is in a similar role at a Championship club (a league above) and his agreement is 9 months salary on dismissal. that's an interesting insight, and goes against a lot of assumptions that most of us make about these contracts, and of course it makes perfect sense.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 14, 2024 13:21:00 GMT
If you're thinking Moore will get the entire length of his contract paid up if he's sacked after 6 months on a 5.5 year contract, then I just might have some news for you. Only a very small number of people will know the minutiae of his terms of employment obviously, but I'd have a good bet he most likely won't get the balance outstanding paid in full if dismissed early. Despite what others have said on here, there is no guiding rule that applies across the board to settlements when managers have their employment terminated. Any footy fan will understand that clauses regarding compensation for sacking will usually be inserted into contracts after negotiation but won't know the terms are usually much less generous than people on here seem to think. Source? I have a blood relative who played for 20 years across divisions 2, 3 and 4 and is now in management/coaching (or whatever you might call it these days) at a respectable 3rd tier club. He's 8 months into a 3 year tenure and his agreement is 6 months salary on dismissal or redundancy, regardless of what length of time is left on his contract. He suggests that the bigger the club then those terms tend to improve, as you might expect. His best mate in footy is in a similar role at a Championship club (a league above) and his agreement is 9 months salary on dismissal. that's an interesting insight, and goes against a lot of assumptions that most of us make about these contracts, and of course it makes perfect sense. It’s also not standard, a clause like that would have to be agreed by both parties and makes a nonsense of a fixed term contract.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 14, 2024 13:49:27 GMT
Hopefully he fails miserably, they go down and the five and a half year contract sends them into financial ruin. Wish nothing but the worst for them. If you're thinking Moore will get the entire length of his contract paid up if he's sacked after 6 months on a 5.5 year contract, then I just might have some news for you. Only a very small number of people will know the minutiae of his terms of employment obviously, but I'd have a good bet he most likely won't get the balance outstanding paid in full if dismissed early. Despite what others have said on here, there is no guiding rule that applies across the board to settlements when managers have their employment terminated. Any footy fan will understand that clauses regarding compensation for sacking will usually be inserted into contracts after negotiation but won't know the terms are usually much less generous than people on here seem to think. Source? I have a blood relative who played for 20 years across divisions 2, 3 and 4 and is now in management/coaching (or whatever you might call it these days) at a respectable 3rd tier club. He's 8 months into a 3 year tenure and his agreement is 6 months salary on dismissal or redundancy, regardless of what length of time is left on his contract. He suggests that the bigger the club then those terms tend to improve, as you might expect. His best mate in footy is in a similar role at a Championship club (a league above) and his agreement is 9 months salary on dismissal. So basically a bit like being on 6 and 9 month rolling contracts just as TP was on a 12 month rolling contract? I guess him signing a 3/4/5 year contract protects Vale or other clubs if, God forbid 😁, Moore is successful and is poached by a higher team. Even then Moore may have stipulated a compensation amount. Come on FullerMagic, who's 8 months into a 3 year contract in the third tier? 😂
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Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 14, 2024 17:49:34 GMT
Good appointment for them but cant agree with those saying they woukd swap….would rather have Schuey myself
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