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Post by iglugluk on Jan 27, 2024 17:04:36 GMT
That was really worrying. To only notch one comedic own goal when we have had four or five clear chances is just appalling. And the defence is just wank. Come on Nigeria send Junior back to us. Presume at least we might have Stevens back in LB next time? Not that he's been a star performer but the Thommo experiment is over, shirley? Thompson has had one bad performance I think? But Cundle worries me. I don't see what he's brought but it seems he's unbalanced the midfield. Yep, as I said a few days ago Schumacher simply cannot afford to play 'my personal favourite' with the matchday squad. We needed and still need the strike and defensive options upgrading not the midfield. If he cannot see this he's got a problem on his hands.
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Post by a on Jan 27, 2024 17:05:07 GMT
How did Lowe get on? Played over half an hour and I can see a stat of one touch…
None of the strikers look good enough to lead the line. I think we need a front two.
At least it’s answered a few questions around our strikers at present.
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Post by limb1956 on Jan 27, 2024 17:07:01 GMT
Football is a lottery, sometimes you get it wrong. Regroup and move on. that doesn’t explain the last 6 to 8 years Some of us have been supporters for more than 5 or 6 years..🙄
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 27, 2024 17:07:24 GMT
Simply, we came up against a better team, away from home and lost. We decided to play two midfielders in defence and one of the best players in the league dominated us. Despite creating about 5 solid chances, we snatched at shot after shot.
I was really impressed with Clarke’s energy today. Gooch is usually a Duracell bunny. He looked knackered by the end, whereas Clarke looked like he could just keep on going.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 27, 2024 17:07:56 GMT
that doesn’t explain the last 6 to 8 years Some of us have been supporters for more than 5 or 6 years..🙄 im 57 soon so i know
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 27, 2024 17:08:41 GMT
How did Lowe get on? Played over half an hour and I can see a stat of one touch… None of the strikers look good enough to lead the line. I think we need a front two. At least it’s answered a few questions around our strikers at present. He wasn't that involved, there was one but where he came to take it under pressure off two of them, did a lovely little turn and laid it off.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 27, 2024 17:09:03 GMT
How did Lowe get on? Played over half an hour and I can see a stat of one touch… None of the strikers look good enough to lead the line. I think we need a front two. At least it’s answered a few questions around our strikers at present. I certainly only saw him touch once….
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2024 17:09:46 GMT
Did someone on here blame Iversen for this goal for not diving🙄🤣🤣🤡
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jan 27, 2024 17:13:37 GMT
I’ve just had to sit in the Sunderland end and watch that.
I am absolutely disgusted. Was talking to the fans around me and telling them we wouldn’t score if we were playing until Tuesday. And other than them scoring a ridiculous own goal. We never would have done.
We either bring in a left back and a quality striker, or we completely give up on this season and just hope to finish no lower than we are.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 27, 2024 17:14:04 GMT
Did someone on here blame Iversen for this goal for not diving🙄🤣🤣🤡 there’s always one 😂
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Post by jhtstokie on Jan 27, 2024 17:14:13 GMT
Simply, we came up against a better team, away from home and lost. We decided to play two midfielders in defence and one of the best players in the league dominated us. Despite creating about 5 solid chances, we snatched at shot after shot. I was really impressed with Clarke’s energy today. Gooch is usually a Duracell bunny. He looked knackered by the end, whereas Clarke looked like he could just keep on going. Really surprised we didn’t double up on Clarke tbh.
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Post by a on Jan 27, 2024 17:14:21 GMT
How did Lowe get on? Played over half an hour and I can see a stat of one touch… None of the strikers look good enough to lead the line. I think we need a front two. At least it’s answered a few questions around our strikers at present. He wasn't that involved, there was one but where he came to take it under pressure off two of them, did a lovely little turn and laid it off. Shame there wasn’t more but sounds good
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Post by musik on Jan 27, 2024 17:14:51 GMT
Was it fair?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 27, 2024 17:16:20 GMT
There's nothing I'd love more than to pile more misery onto these fuckers. But, we all know how this one will play out. An absolute formality.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 27, 2024 17:17:49 GMT
Simply, we came up against a better team, away from home and lost. We decided to play two midfielders in defence and one of the best players in the league dominated us. Despite creating about 5 solid chances, we snatched at shot after shot. I was really impressed with Clarke’s energy today. Gooch is usually a Duracell bunny. He looked knackered by the end, whereas Clarke looked like he could just keep on going. Really surprised we didn’t double up on Clarke tbh. Wasn’t one of SS’s attractions that he doesn’t change his game to suit other teams? He just keeps his team trying to go for it? That’s what we did. We got beat because of it.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 27, 2024 17:20:03 GMT
Yes. They were better all game. Looked more dangerous. That said, we had 3 good chances, including a ball cleared off the line, before they scored. At the beginning of the second half, Campbell had a good opportunity and shanked it. Then, they scored again. Then Mmaee had a great chance and skied it. Then, they scored again. Made the chances, didn’t take them. Forwards couldn’t complain about a lack of service today.
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 27, 2024 17:22:46 GMT
Simply, we came up against a better team, away from home and lost. We decided to play two midfielders in defence and one of the best players in the league dominated us. Despite creating about 5 solid chances, we snatched at shot after shot. I was really impressed with Clarke’s energy today. Gooch is usually a Duracell bunny. He looked knackered by the end, whereas Clarke looked like he could just keep on going. Clarke looks Premier League quality to me (even if we did gift him a very easy afternoon).
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2024 17:23:44 GMT
But at least they've played together before. The full backs were far worse than the centre halves today, anybody can see that They were all crap, there's people on here that think Wilmot can organise a defence, if that's the case why was it all over the place today. But yes, Thompson isn't a full back and Gooch had no help, it wasn't good to watch.
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 27, 2024 17:25:55 GMT
The only positive is that it kicks our transfer team into gear and they add to our ranks this week. What with more of the same, you're very very lucky if you get a gem in January..
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Post by kerouac on Jan 27, 2024 17:26:52 GMT
The full backs were far worse than the centre halves today, anybody can see that They were all crap, there's people on here that think Wilmot can organise a defence, if that's the case why was it all over the place today. But yes, Thompson isn't a full back and Gooch had no help, it wasn't good to watch. I think Wilnot just causes chaos….
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Post by musik on Jan 27, 2024 17:27:18 GMT
Yes. They were better all game. Looked more dangerous. That said, we had 3 good chances, including a ball cleared off the line, before they scored. At the beginning of the second half, Campbell had a good opportunity and shanked it. Then, they scored again. Then Mmaee had a great chance and skied it. Then, they scored again. Made the chances, didn’t take them. Forwards couldn’t complain about a lack of service today. So then we will beat Leicester at home instead, to everyone's surprise ...
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 27, 2024 17:27:29 GMT
Thompson has had one bad performance I think? But Cundle worries me. I don't see what he's brought but it seems he's unbalanced the midfield. Yep, as I said a few days ago Schumacher simply cannot afford to play 'my personal favourite' with the matchday squad. We needed and still need the strike and defensive options upgrading not the midfield. If he cannot see this he's got a problem on his hands. If he can't see this he's in the wrong job...
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2024 17:31:15 GMT
Thompson has had one bad performance I think? But Cundle worries me. I don't see what he's brought but it seems he's unbalanced the midfield. Yep, as I said a few days ago Schumacher simply cannot afford to play 'my personal favourite' with the matchday squad. We needed and still need the strike and defensive options upgrading not the midfield. If he cannot see this he's got a problem on his hands. We play ever so well again, but again we lose because we can't finish and we can't defend. Clarke was the difference between the two teams in my opinion.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 27, 2024 17:33:37 GMT
He is still learning about the squad but surely someone at the club could have told him Campbell is not a centre forward, Thompson will never be a left back and Gooch can’t defend. Add to that, Cundle and Bae can’t play together in a 3 in such a physical league. We don’t have the personnel to play Angevall, Thompson can’t recover fast enough. I am confident he will figure it out but short-term he needs to tighten the shape up
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Post by HarryTheHat on Jan 27, 2024 17:35:03 GMT
The full backs were far worse than the centre halves today, anybody can see that They were all crap, there's people on here that think Wilmot can organise a defence, if that's the case why was it all over the place today. But yes, Thompson isn't a full back and Gooch had no help, it wasn't good to watch. We definitely need organisation at the back - I dont think that's Wilmot's strength / role though? He's picked to progress the play which he generally does more tidily than Rose and McNally. He's actually younger than both Rose and McNally I think? and shouldn't be seen as the senior "old head" in defence He just needs an older, experienced, no-nonsense CH alongside him
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Post by stokemark on Jan 27, 2024 17:41:10 GMT
The Cundle signing was his first significant mistake for me. Pointless signing when we needed strengthening in other key positions and one that would have likely caused dressing room unrest as he is going to be seen as a personal favourite of Schumacher.
He has to be dropped against Leicester to demonstrate the manager shows suitable impartiality with the team.
Sadly you can make a silk purse with a sows ear but you can demonstrate a suitable level of impartiality and I don't think he's done that with Cundle.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 27, 2024 17:41:30 GMT
He is literally the only threat they have and the fact we have not been tight on him all game is worrying. If you stop Clarke you stop Sunderland and we have let him stroll around all day. Agreed , very very odd It is mate. There were times when instead of closing him down our players were actively running away from him hoping one of their teammates would deal with the problem. You get taught as a youngster to get tight to your man on the pitch. If he beats you for skill or pace fair enough but we gave him all the room in the world out there today. I hope schuey gives them both barrels in the changing room today.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 27, 2024 17:46:37 GMT
Well what can you say after that?
We have 2 keepers who can't be relied on.
Gooch succeeded in helping Sunderland to 3pts.
Thompson,absolutely fecking shite defending.
Wilmot,returns we concede 3,what some see in him I've no idea.
Rose,we really do need better.
Cundle,a complete waste of a loan.
Burger,a very rare off day.
Junho,MOTM.
Leris,just pass the ball FFS.
Haks,see Leris.
Campbell,if he is playing for a move,he won't be going anywhere.
Lowe needs lending out.
Vidigal,tries too hard,but no end product.
Mmaee,he would struggle to score against the Stoke women's team.
Shu.he needs to realise we are in a relegation battle,he needs to tighten up that defence,then,we can go gung ho going forward.
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Post by Block 26 on Jan 27, 2024 17:48:51 GMT
I’m not sure what to make of that. How we went in behind first half is beyond me. I thought that Birmingham was just one of them games last week but today we miss 3/4 clear cut chances then somehow go in at ht behind.
We never came out 2nd half which is really worrying against a side which is struggling for form & the fans turning on the manager.
The basics - doesn’t every team in the championship double up on Clarke as he is clearly their only threat? He embarrassed Gooch today.
I’m more disappointed than anything & SS has a lot to answer for after that performance for me. 1500 fans make a 400 round trip to watch that shite? It’s unacceptable.
Luckily I don’t drive home until tomorrow so I will still enjoy my night regardless of the result.
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Post by stantheman on Jan 27, 2024 18:27:36 GMT
Yes. They were better all game. Looked more dangerous. That said, we had 3 good chances, including a ball cleared off the line, before they scored. At the beginning of the second half, Campbell had a good opportunity and shanked it. Then, they scored again. Then Mmaee had a great chance and skied it. Then, they scored again. Made the chances, didn’t take them. Forwards couldn’t complain about a lack of service today. So then we will beat Leicester at home instead, to everyone's surprise ... With Bonham in goal?
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