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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 10:42:34 GMT
The West Brom and Shrewsbury away games that season when we were in really strong positions were as typically-Stoke as you could get…… Those were the two away games I went to!!! Didn’t Garth Crooks score an hat trick for West Brom? I remember Keith Bertschin scored for us and still celebrated like he had scored in a cup final though we were 4-1 down. (Was it 4-1?) Yeah Bertchin got a consolation in the 85th minute or something and went wild, I was at both as well probably two of my very first away games (my first was Man Utd 0-5 in 1985). Crooks got 2, George Reilly got the other 2........ |
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Post by lordb on Jan 10, 2024 10:49:35 GMT
That was indeed a very memorable and enjoyable match, but I’ve never seen any footage of it, I don’t think any cameras were there unfortunately. I think you are right, i've never seen the goals replayed anywhere. If my memory serves me right, the Kamara goal was almost a sliding tackle style swipe from the edge of the area?? To be honest this was probably the zenith of my supporting until 1992 - to be introduced to The Vic with 12,000 away fans in fancy dress with all the inflatables was pretty mind-blowing for 10 year old me. Pretty sure Gleghorn and Biggins both played for Man City that day. Think Gleghorn scored for Man City? |
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Post by shino on Jan 10, 2024 12:35:22 GMT
I think you are right, i've never seen the goals replayed anywhere. If my memory serves me right, the Kamara goal was almost a sliding tackle style swipe from the edge of the area?? To be honest this was probably the zenith of my supporting until 1992 - to be introduced to The Vic with 12,000 away fans in fancy dress with all the inflatables was pretty mind-blowing for 10 year old me. Pretty sure Gleghorn and Biggins both played for Man City that day. Think Gleghorn scored for Man City? Yes you're right, just looked it up. Kamara, Big Dave Bamber (i should have remembered that rareity) and a Judder pen for us. |
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 10, 2024 12:47:34 GMT
The stretch before and over Christmas, when we scored goals for fun, was as exciting as any we have played in a long while, 4 2 4 formation I think, very happy memories. Funny how a player like Carl Saunders can be dynamite that season, yet rarely replicated it..
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 10, 2024 13:24:23 GMT
That was indeed a very memorable and enjoyable match, but I’ve never seen any footage of it, I don’t think any cameras were there unfortunately. I think you are right, i've never seen the goals replayed anywhere. If my memory serves me right, the Kamara goal was almost a sliding tackle style swipe from the edge of the area?? To be honest this was probably the zenith of my supporting until 1992 - to be introduced to The Vic with 12,000 away fans in fancy dress with all the inflatables was pretty mind-blowing for 10 year old me. Pretty sure Gleghorn and Biggins both played for Man City that day. Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. |
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Post by shino on Jan 10, 2024 14:49:34 GMT
I think you are right, i've never seen the goals replayed anywhere. If my memory serves me right, the Kamara goal was almost a sliding tackle style swipe from the edge of the area?? To be honest this was probably the zenith of my supporting until 1992 - to be introduced to The Vic with 12,000 away fans in fancy dress with all the inflatables was pretty mind-blowing for 10 year old me. Pretty sure Gleghorn and Biggins both played for Man City that day. Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. Yeah John Butler did play. No doubt you're right about Kamara's goal - my memory is fairly sketchy! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 14:55:47 GMT
On a slightly different subject, kudos to whoever did/does the seasonal reviews for Stoke on Wikipedia, we basically have full details of every season from 1888 to the present day.
Some clubs don't even have Wikipedia pages so when you're searching for old games/players/stats it makes it far more difficult............
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 10, 2024 15:25:21 GMT
On a slightly different subject, kudos to whoever did/does the seasonal reviews for Stoke on Wikipedia, we basically have full details of every season from 1888 to the present day. Some clubs don't even have Wikipedia pages so when you're searching for old games/players/stats it makes it far more difficult............ Good shout. I wonder who does that? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 10, 2024 15:32:29 GMT
Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. Yeah John Butler did play. No doubt you're right about Kamara's goal - my memory is fairly sketchy! I had a VHS tape of the game...remember when they used to sell awful copies in the club shop for a 5er? |
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Post by HarryTheHat on Jan 10, 2024 15:46:47 GMT
My first game was that season after we'd moved down in summer 86 - I can remember we scored in the first minute in my first game and had convinced myself it was Paul Ware v Leyton Orient but instead it was Carl Saunders v Shewsbury. Would love see one from the following season as 3-1 v Man City boxing day is probably my favourite childhood memory going Stoke with my dad. That was the 88/89 season you're thinking of - The 3-1 over Man City on Boxing Day '88 was my first ever game. a great memory! Was that the bananas vs pink panthers game? Gleghorn scored for Man City I think? |
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 10, 2024 16:47:38 GMT
On a slightly different subject, kudos to whoever did/does the seasonal reviews for Stoke on Wikipedia, we basically have full details of every season from 1888 to the present day. Some clubs don't even have Wikipedia pages so when you're searching for old games/players/stats it makes it far more difficult............ I think I'm right in saying that these reviews stretch back to the 40s? Its definitely one of the best and most exhaustive wiki pages for a football club E.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%9351_Stoke_City_F.C._season'Stoke were rocked before the start of the season by the news that Neil Franklin and George Mountford had agreed to play for Independiente Santa Fe in Colombia.' .........scorers, attendances, player stats etc Lots of good Stoke City pub quiz material in there! Edit: it goes back even further, its actually quite amazing (if you like that kind of thing!) Who did this?? It almost like the person writing it was there! 1921-22 League After the disappointments of last season, there was another conscious effort to strengthen the squad for the 1921–22 season, and a wealthy director John Slater proved to be the most ambitious as he spent a lot of his own money to bring to the club the Broad brothers, Tommy and Jimmy.[1] Jimmy was an out-and-out centre forward who came in after having scored 37 goals in 48 matches for Millwall.[1] Tommy on the other hand was a pacey right winger who signed from Manchester City.[1] The idea of developing young talent was also coming to the fore, with the appointment of Tom Brittleton as player-coach, which was met with approval from the club's supporters.[1]
The season turned out to be one of the best the club had experienced up to that time and promotion was gained to the top-flight, Stoke finishing runners-up to Nottingham Forest.[1] Eleven home draws probably cost Stoke top spot but nevertheless their form throughout the season was very good and the team was well supported by the fans with an average attendance of 15,000.[1] Jimmy Broad was top scorer with 25 league goals and he also became the first Stoke player to score four goals in a Football League match, achieving this feat in a 5–1 home win over Crystal Palace in early December.[1] Stoke also achieved an unbeaten league run of 15 matches from 27 December to 8 April.[1] |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jan 10, 2024 16:57:39 GMT
That was the 88/89 season you're thinking of - The 3-1 over Man City on Boxing Day '88 was my first ever game. a great memory! Was that the bananas vs pink panthers game? Gleghorn scored for Man City I think? Bananas yes, Pink Panthers - no. This was the game though that gave the club shop manager (Paul Gerkin?) the idea of finding something for Stoke to adopt. (The rest is history). But - official video of the game should be available - the club were filming games and selling them on VHS via the club shop. My parents bought a copy from the club shop - but I think it's been lost in house moves/clearances - if it was still playable. Someone somewhere must have a copy of that game - and others. I think - if you listen carefully enough, at some point during the game you can hear the earliest renditions of Delilah. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 17:38:40 GMT
On a slightly different subject, kudos to whoever did/does the seasonal reviews for Stoke on Wikipedia, we basically have full details of every season from 1888 to the present day. Some clubs don't even have Wikipedia pages so when you're searching for old games/players/stats it makes it far more difficult............ Good shout. I wonder who does that? Honestly don't know mate? I know Vale have a club statistician Phil Sherwin I'm guessing we have too, not sure if they've been involved at some point....... |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 10, 2024 17:45:37 GMT
I think you are right, i've never seen the goals replayed anywhere. If my memory serves me right, the Kamara goal was almost a sliding tackle style swipe from the edge of the area?? To be honest this was probably the zenith of my supporting until 1992 - to be introduced to The Vic with 12,000 away fans in fancy dress with all the inflatables was pretty mind-blowing for 10 year old me. Pretty sure Gleghorn and Biggins both played for Man City that day. Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. Yep Butler and Bamber debuted One went on to have a great career with us; the less said about the other the better Gleghorn always seemed to score against us. Was glad when we signed him |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 10, 2024 17:58:18 GMT
Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. Yep Butler and Bamber debuted One went on to have a great career with us; the less said about the other the better Gleghorn always seemed to score against us. Was glad when we signed him He also scored a goal that messed up our automatic promotion push seem to remember. Winner for Birmingham at Torquay the night we drew at Fulham. |
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Post by shino on Jan 10, 2024 18:26:48 GMT
Yeah John Butler did play. No doubt you're right about Kamara's goal - my memory is fairly sketchy! I had a VHS tape of the game...remember when they used to sell awful copies in the club shop for a 5er? Yes! I wonder if my mates Dad still has it?? I’ll ask him! |
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Post by shino on Jan 10, 2024 18:28:33 GMT
Was that the bananas vs pink panthers game? Gleghorn scored for Man City I think? Bananas yes, Pink Panthers - no. This was the game though that gave the club shop manager (Paul Gerkin?) the idea of finding something for Stoke to adopt. (The rest is history). But - official video of the game should be available - the club were filming games and selling them on VHS via the club shop. My parents bought a copy from the club shop - but I think it's been lost in house moves/clearances - if it was still playable. Someone somewhere must have a copy of that game - and others. I think - if you listen carefully enough, at some point during the game you can hear the earliest renditions of Delilah. Pink Panthers were in full force by the away game (which was in March I think). My mate dressed up in full PP suit, we lost, the wooden seats got kicked in, and then we parked in a lay-by on the way home with him dancing like a loon and all the stokies beeping their horns at him. |
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 10, 2024 21:23:39 GMT
The creator of the video has posted similar reviews for several seasons in the 80’s. Well worth a watch, I really enjoyed them. Only seen 86/87 so far (first full season watching Stoke) but really good considering the limited material available. The accompanying music is a great feature too. Makes you want to go back to simpler times! It’s always a puzzle why there was better quality footage even in the 70’s compared to the sometimes incomplete (e.g. Leeds 7-2) home video type footage of the mid to late 80’s. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2024 21:59:13 GMT
The creator of the video has posted similar reviews for several seasons in the 80’s. Well worth a watch, I really enjoyed them. Only seen 86/87 so far (first full season watching Stoke) but really good considering the limited material available. The accompanying music is a great feature too. Makes you want to go back to simpler times! It’s always a puzzle why there was better quality footage even in the 70’s compared to the sometimes incomplete (e.g. Leeds 7-2) home video type footage of the mid to late 80’s. Fans, broadcasters, government and footballing bodies, all basically gave up on live football for a period in the 80's. Obviously being out of the top league decimated the camera footage of games as well. I'd be interested to know if the club themselves have a load of archived footage, but there just seems to be a general lack of it........ |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 10, 2024 22:17:09 GMT
The creator of the video has posted similar reviews for several seasons in the 80’s. Well worth a watch, I really enjoyed them. Only seen 86/87 so far (first full season watching Stoke) but really good considering the limited material available. The accompanying music is a great feature too. Makes you want to go back to simpler times! It’s always a puzzle why there was better quality footage even in the 70’s compared to the sometimes incomplete (e.g. Leeds 7-2) home video type footage of the mid to late 80’s. Yes, there’s a chronic lack of footage at that time. The season before just had the 2-1 win at Sheffield United, and the loss at Charlton which was their last game at the Valley. The music was great, but I thought those Guns N Roses songs were later than 86/87 🤔 |
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Post by samdan on Jan 11, 2024 0:31:34 GMT
I had a VHS tape of the game...remember when they used to sell awful copies in the club shop for a 5er? Yes! I wonder if my mates Dad still has it?? I’ll ask him! I’ve got it on dvd transferred from the original vhs. Not sure what the quality is like though. I’ve got the 4-0 win against Hull too |
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 11, 2024 20:06:14 GMT
Only seen 86/87 so far (first full season watching Stoke) but really good considering the limited material available. The accompanying music is a great feature too. Makes you want to go back to simpler times! It’s always a puzzle why there was better quality footage even in the 70’s compared to the sometimes incomplete (e.g. Leeds 7-2) home video type footage of the mid to late 80’s. Yes, there’s a chronic lack of footage at that time. The season before just had the 2-1 win at Sheffield United, and the loss at Charlton which was their last game at the Valley. The music was great, but I thought those Guns N Roses songs were later than 86/87 🤔 Apparently, those songs will have entered the ears, of those who purchased this album, as early as July 1987. Recorded during 86/87 season, prior to their release as singles in 88 and 89. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_Destruction |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 11, 2024 20:26:46 GMT
Didn't John Butler make his debut? Yep Gleghorn gave them the lead, was amongst hundreds still trying to get in the ground at the time, less than 10 mins. Kamara took one ball down from a corner, but of a swivel and goal. Yep Butler and Bamber debuted One went on to have a great career with us; the less said about the other the better Gleghorn always seemed to score against us. Was glad when we signed him Bamber actually scored. Well to be fair someone shot, it hit Dave on his back and looped in but I think it was given to him!! About the only way he seemed able to score!! |
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Post by samdan on Jan 11, 2024 20:34:38 GMT
Yep Butler and Bamber debuted One went on to have a great career with us; the less said about the other the better Gleghorn always seemed to score against us. Was glad when we signed him Bamber actually scored. Well to be fair someone shot, it hit Dave on his back and looped in but I think it was given to him!! About the only way he seemed able to score!! It’s was Kamaras shot I think |
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 11, 2024 20:59:33 GMT
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Post by potter25 on Jan 11, 2024 22:18:28 GMT
My 1st season of taking an interest is Stoke
Used to wait for results on grandstand and remember dancing round the living room when we won at Hull 4-0 away
1st game in the flesh last game of season was 5–1 win over Grimsby
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Post by stantheman on Jan 11, 2024 23:12:05 GMT
The strangest game of that season was the match at Bradford, played at the Osdal Stadium.
The official coaches turned up and people made their way to the turnstiles, to find them wide open. So a large number of supporters entwred, and didn't pay to watch that match..
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 12, 2024 12:23:46 GMT
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jan 12, 2024 13:05:57 GMT
Blimey. Rugby League can only dream of those kinds of crowds again. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 12, 2024 16:56:08 GMT
The strangest game of that season was the match at Bradford, played at the Osdal Stadium. The official coaches turned up and people made their way to the turnstiles, to find them wide open. So a large number of supporters entwred, and didn't pay to watch that match.. 4-1 win and the start of Saunders’ scoring run We repeated the score the following year at the redeveloped Valley Parade. Tony Henry got the 4th with a cracking 30 yarder Going in to school was good the next day |
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