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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 11:15:11 GMT
JDT Eustace Heckinbottham
Pretty uninspiring list - but we are where we are.
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Post by philb on Dec 13, 2023 11:18:56 GMT
If Allardyce is interested in the job and it's a genuine interest rather than a profile raiser, it would be interesting to know what the owners thought of it, and whether they would persue it? If we can afford fat Sam surely we can afford potter We could probably afford anyone, but whether they’d want the job is a completely different matter.
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 11:19:38 GMT
Come on monkey cat , time for an update
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 13, 2023 11:21:17 GMT
If Allardyce is interested in the job and it's a genuine interest rather than a profile raiser, it would be interesting to know what the owners thought of it, and whether they would persue it? If we can afford fat Sam surely we can afford potter It’s not the case of affording potter it’s more he’d probably prefer to sit there with his feet up whilst wanking Chelsea’s money up the wall Waiting till the summer when the choice of jobs are more varied
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 13, 2023 11:27:28 GMT
As ever, you need to read between the lines rather than just looking at final table positions. Up to mid-November last season Blackburn showed Top 2 form, then for the rest of the season hit mediocre mid-table form. So a side that looked good for the playoffs ended up badly choking it. How much of that was down to JDT? He was the manager, and whilst they're doing well at the moment there's every possibility that could happen again. Even during that purple patch for the first 3-and-a-half months, they looked far from convincing - in no small part because of Brereton's goals. We don't even have that kind of forward line to ride our luck. It's due diligence like this that Coates and Tricky need to weigh up in their decision-making. For me, JDT is unproven and too much of a risk. You mean you want them to do due diligence by making shit up. Blackburn were in contention for the play offs despite not scoring anywhere near enough goals and Ben Brereton had a pretty lean season particularly early doors. He was on fire the season before under Mowbray. No fiction in what I said above. Blackburn were in strong contention for the playoffs and in Top 2 form till mid-November, then they collapsed. It is sensible due diligence to understand why that happened, especially with a forward line of not just Brereton, but also Gallagher and Szmodics that's streets ahead of ours. If it was down to JDT's poor tactics, that's obviously something we want to avoid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 11:27:46 GMT
Don't do it John....
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Post by canadianmoose on Dec 13, 2023 11:31:21 GMT
If we can afford fat Sam surely we can afford potter We could probably afford anyone, but whether they’d want the job is a completely different matter. I read that Potter is on 200k per week still from the Chelsea payoff.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 13, 2023 11:33:22 GMT
Depressing on the face of it but I actually think he'd get a tune of of this rabble with a couple of additions in January. Wouldn't be delighted but would be happy to give him a chance and hopefully end up pleasantly surprised. Where are we now as a collective in the 7 stages have gone from Potter, Nuno etc al to Fat Sam, Warnock, etc al 😃 Probably far closer to reality with our board... 😞 I'm at the point where I'm keeping an open mind. I didn't want Pulis back the 2nd time and that turned out way more than okay. So who knows about someone like big Sam. He might just come in and absolutely smash it. It could be the kind of job at stoke where it just works for a wiley old dog like Sam 👍
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 13, 2023 11:34:14 GMT
my brummie mates reckon Eustace style was awful but appreciate how he kept them up So at Kidderminster, a team looking to get promoted, he was lauded for playing attractive football while at Birmingham, a team in danger of relegation, he ground out results. I fail to see the problem here - he adapted his game plan to deal with the situation his team was in. I want us to play attractive football but playing it for the sake of it is just stupid. At the moment we are a soft touch incapable of seeing games out - we have to sort out the defence, become hard to beat and then worry about being entertaining. For me Eustace got his priorities right at Birmingham and I suspect most of their fans would acknowledge that and he was very unlucky not to get the opportunity to show what he could with a side not in immediate danger of relegation. I'm hardly thrilled at the prospect but given where we are I think we could do a lot worse than Eustace.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 11:36:13 GMT
You mean you want them to do due diligence by making shit up. Blackburn were in contention for the play offs despite not scoring anywhere near enough goals and Ben Brereton had a pretty lean season particularly early doors. He was on fire the season before under Mowbray. No fiction in what I said above. Blackburn were in strong contention for the playoffs and in Top 2 form till mid-November, then they collapsed. It is sensible due diligence to understand why that happened, especially with a forward line of not just Brereton, but also Gallagher and Szmodics that's streets ahead of ours. If it was down to JDT's poor tactics, that's obviously something we want to avoid. JDT definitely struggled to get the team and strikers scoring in his first season. I don’t really know what that tells you being as they’re scoring an above average number this season. Is it negative that it happened or positive he’s managed to solve it . I honestly don’t think Pep or Klopp or any other elite manager could get our forwards scoring they’re to put not too fine a point on it wank.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 13, 2023 11:38:17 GMT
Where are we now as a collective in the 7 stages have gone from Potter, Nuno etc al to Fat Sam, Warnock, etc al 😃 Probably far closer to reality with our board... 😞 I'm at the point where I'm keeping an open mind. I didn't want Pulis back the 2nd time and that turned out way more than okay. So who knows about someone like big Sam. He might just come in and absolutely smash it. It could be the kind of job at stoke where it just works for a wiley old dog like Sam 👍 Aye tend to agree those that have been underwhelming tend to have worked out better. Is that just because they came with such low expectations to begin with though. Anyway what will be will be. 🤞 Law of averages says they must get one right.. eventually
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 11:46:32 GMT
Big Samuel is very much in the scfc race.
He's hanging at the back ready for a burst at the final straight
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Post by walrus on Dec 13, 2023 11:50:42 GMT
I want us to play attractive football but playing it for the sake of it is just stupid. I think a lot of people on this board, and football fans in general, conflate attractive football and attacking football. I want to see us playing front foot, positive, attacking football. I don’t really care if it’s attractive in the conventional short passing sense or not.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 11:54:59 GMT
Has anyone mentioned Gaz Neville & Royston Keane yet?
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 13, 2023 11:55:28 GMT
I want us to play attractive football but playing it for the sake of it is just stupid. I think a lot of people on this board, and football fans in general, conflate attractive football and attacking football. I want to see us playing front foot, positive, attacking football. I don’t really care if it’s attractive in the conventional short passing sense or not. A bit of strength and grit and a sprinkling of passion would be a start Kick a few of the opposition in to the air rather than the insipid beige couldn’t give a fuck shite currently on offer
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Post by caine on Dec 13, 2023 11:55:52 GMT
JDT Eustace Heckinbottham Pretty uninspiring list - but we are where we are. What give your head a shake Would love two of them… we will never ever ever get Potter not even if we were in the Prem.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 11:58:15 GMT
I want us to play attractive football but playing it for the sake of it is just stupid. I think a lot of people on this board, and football fans in general, conflate attractive football and attacking football. I want to see us playing front foot, positive, attacking football. I don’t really care if it’s attractive in the conventional short passing sense or not. I’d be all for a more direct approach that doesn’t involve aimless hoofing or going long to a CF that’s weak as piss or unable to move. I do think the game has become too patient maybe too continental and is less entertaining as a result. Score me loads of goals and I couldn’t care less how you score them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 11:58:40 GMT
Has anyone mentioned Gaz Neville & Royston Keane yet? Some weirdo did a while back.
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Post by desman2 on Dec 13, 2023 11:59:28 GMT
We've also got two competitors looking for a new manager so it narrows the choices a little
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 11:59:54 GMT
JDT Eustace Heckinbottham Pretty uninspiring list - but we are where we are. What give your head a shake Would love two of them… we will never ever ever get Potter not even if we were in the Prem. What are you on about ? I didn’t even mention potter.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 12:00:02 GMT
Has anyone mentioned Gaz Neville & Royston Keane yet? Some weirdo did a while back. Who's your man?
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 12:01:47 GMT
Don't do it John.... Big Sam Practising his promotion dance
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 13, 2023 12:01:50 GMT
Has anyone mentioned Gaz Neville & Royston Keane yet? I'd take that for a laugh 👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 12:02:35 GMT
Some weirdo did a while back. Who's your man? George Graham.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 12:03:27 GMT
1) Gaz & Roy 2) Nuno Santo 3) Big Samuel
The future is bright but it's not Phill Brown bright
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 12:03:39 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 13, 2023 12:05:25 GMT
Said it on another thread, but I'd get the cheque book out for Will Still. Sunderland have made an approach amongst other clubs apparently Why? He is a football manager player who hasn't even got coaching badges and his club has to pay a fine every game he is in charge (that was the case earlier this season I assume it still is) Why do people want this guy but then say the likes of Eustace, Parker, Lampard etc don't have experience 🤣🤣
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Post by Goonie on Dec 13, 2023 12:14:03 GMT
Has anyone mentioned Gaz Neville & Royston Keane yet? I think the two would definitely raise SCFC's profile in the media and we'd be one of the biggest clubs in League One 😬😁
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 12:15:04 GMT
Said it on another thread, but I'd get the cheque book out for Will Still. Sunderland have made an approach amongst other clubs apparently Why? He is a football manager player who hasn't even got coaching badges and his club has to pay a fine every game he is in charge (that was the case earlier this season I assume it still is) Why do people want this guy but then say the likes of Eustace, Parker, Lampard etc don't have experience 🤣🤣 Yeah I read it was €28,000 every game. That’s €56,000 most weeks before you’ve even paid him. You could nearly get Gayle & Wesley for that. Oh fuck that’s a shit argument.
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 12:15:58 GMT
Why? He is a football manager player who hasn't even got coaching badges and his club has to pay a fine every game he is in charge (that was the case earlier this season I assume it still is) Why do people want this guy but then say the likes of Eustace, Parker, Lampard etc don't have experience 🤣🤣 Yeah I read it was €28,000 every game. That’s €56,000 most weeks before you’ve even paid him. You could nearly get Gayle & Wesley for that. Oh fuck that’s a shit argument. Would he get fined by the EFL?
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