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Post by LGH87 on Dec 16, 2023 1:12:56 GMT
I know one thing, all this ridiculous new manager speculation is far more entertaining than moaning like fuck about Alex Neil ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) Enjoy it, we’ll soon be moaning like fuck about the new guy 😂
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 16, 2023 1:39:48 GMT
i wouldnt go that far, hes an ugly bastard. but ide be right behind his appointment as I really rate him. A real bizarre looking fella but a cracking manager. He looks like the grotesque reimagining of Richard D James in the video for Aphex Twin's 'Window Licker'. ![](https://31.media.tumblr.com/8847da8d22109c337ac014b1e7c99ca6/tumblr_inline_nasxa1dYJt1qis86r.jpg)
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Post by turtlefox on Dec 16, 2023 1:46:35 GMT
A real bizarre looking fella but a cracking manager. He looks like the grotesque reimagining of Richard D James in the video for Aphex Twin's 'Window Licker'. ![](https://31.media.tumblr.com/8847da8d22109c337ac014b1e7c99ca6/tumblr_inline_nasxa1dYJt1qis86r.jpg) Next managers you find strangely attracted to...thread
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Post by tuum on Dec 16, 2023 1:49:49 GMT
[quote timestamp="1702661153" author=" andystokey" source= How many referees do they have to provide (are these actual referees or just former employers or their mates or journalists or former players, etc.?) Does anyone know? I think it is only the Italian Leagues in Europe that expect all potential managers to produce a list of referees that the manager has in their pocket...
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 16, 2023 7:10:46 GMT
Wonder if any manager will be saying goodbye to his team at 5pm today 🤔
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 16, 2023 7:33:30 GMT
A real bizarre looking fella but a cracking manager. He looks like the grotesque reimagining of Richard D James in the video for Aphex Twin's 'Window Licker'. ![](https://31.media.tumblr.com/8847da8d22109c337ac014b1e7c99ca6/tumblr_inline_nasxa1dYJt1qis86r.jpg) Get it in, whatever it is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 16, 2023 7:41:52 GMT
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Post by george2again on Dec 16, 2023 7:46:57 GMT
This whole process is a complete farce bearing in mind it was clear AN Would have to go weeks ago. Where’s the preparation and due diligence to move a new man in as soon as possible and have an immediate effect on the team? Say what you like about Watford, but manager is sacked and new man in place same day or day after. We’ve lost three fixtures where we should be picking up max points . This is very old fashioned, gentlemanly approach to an appointment which is outdated as as it goes. If Nuno was on list and keen no more interviews needed. If you’re interviewing then you want to be convinced by what the applicant has to say which the Coates have previous for (Lambert). The only discussion is money if you have a target and that’s it. The whole process seems a smokescreen when a cheap and inexperienced manager is installed who the board picked from the beginning.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 16, 2023 7:50:50 GMT
I have to say we are either being very thorough, or simply dragging our heels. If the manager we end up appointing was not in a job and available, there is no reason not to have that person installed asap..If we are simply giving the impression we are taking all due diligence, then taking the cheap and easy option, shame on you Stoke City.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 16, 2023 7:56:00 GMT
6 Jan 18 Hughes sacked 16 Jan 18 Lambert appointed
18 May 18 Lambert leaves 22 May 18 Rowett appointed
8 Jan 19 Rowett sacked 9 Jan 19 Jones appointed
1 Nov 19 Jones sacked 8 Nov 19 MON appointed
25 Aug 22 MON sacked 28 Aug 22 Neil appointed
Looking at the last few, they're normally quite quick. Although the Lambert thing was delayed by the QSF farce, amongst other things.
And the Jones appointment was lightning quick, as really was Neil, and had clearly been lined up.
Doesn't look they really know what they want to do this time
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Post by jeycov on Dec 16, 2023 8:01:22 GMT
A professional response, he’s already in employment
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 16, 2023 8:06:47 GMT
A professional response, he’s already in employment Yeah - but one that also shows he'd be open to a knock on his door from us (which it sounds like has been forthcoming). The other option in that situation is a dismissal of interest, which noticeably was not there. He'd definitely be in the top 3 of the ones that have been mentioned for me
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 16, 2023 8:15:51 GMT
If Eustace was first choice I would have expected an announcement yesterday.
No chance it’s him unless he is announced today and in charge tomorrow
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Post by neddy on Dec 16, 2023 8:23:13 GMT
A professional response, he’s already in employment Yeah - but one that also shows he'd be open to a knock on his door from us (which it sounds like has been forthcoming). The other option in that situation is a dismissal of interest, which noticeably was not there. He'd definitely be in the top 3 of the ones that have been mentioned for me If I was a Blackburn fan I’d be a bit worried about that interview?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 8:25:54 GMT
That JDT interview smacked of "Shit, I've been rumbled. I hope nobody saw me in Rugby the other day"
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 16, 2023 8:26:14 GMT
It's a weird timeline, everything pointed to a Eustace appointment yesterday, never materialised and now here we are not knowing what the hell is going on..Perhaps Percy's tweet with a timeline of a non quick process was spot on..
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 16, 2023 8:26:58 GMT
I don’t really care who’s next manager. I just hope whoever it is can turn things around. I don’t want a refurbed “Richard’s”, or a fan park, or San Miguel by popular demand, or even a train station by the ground, or bullshit PR nights meeting the manager and Jon.
I just want a decent team, that plays good football. I think that has been the lost priority here.
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Post by neddy on Dec 16, 2023 8:28:36 GMT
It's a weird timeline, everything pointed to a Eustace appointment yesterday, never materialised and now here we are not knowing what the hell is going on..Perhaps Percy's tweet with a timeline of a non quick process was spot on.. Well if nothing today I think they’ve got a few days haven’t they before Millwall. Come on Gally get us a point?!
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Post by lordb on Dec 16, 2023 8:40:44 GMT
This whole process is a complete farce bearing in mind it was clear AN Would have to go weeks ago. Where’s the preparation and due diligence to move a new man in as soon as possible and have an immediate effect on the team? Say what you like about Watford, but manager is sacked and new man in place same day or day after. We’ve lost three fixtures where we should be picking up max points . This is very old fashioned, gentlemanly approach to an appointment which is outdated as as it goes. If Nuno was on list and keen no more interviews needed. If you’re interviewing then you want to be convinced by what the applicant has to say which the Coates have previous for (Lambert). The only discussion is money if you have a target and that’s it. The whole process seems a smokescreen when a cheap and inexperienced manager is installed who the board picked from the beginning. Last time I believe JC decided to sack O'Neill after the debacle at Millwall on the opening day but kept him in the job whilst sounding out a replacement In effect O'Neill was from that point a caretaker manager (not that he knew this probably). As such when we went in for Alex Neil it seemed to be a quick process but in reality it wasn't This time I believe JC didn't intend to sack AN until the Sheffield Wednesday game when he realised he had to get rid there and then As such this time it all feels much slower Sunderland and Swansea jobs were available before ours and still not filled Sometimes clubs have replacement Linedup sometimes they don't Just how it is I think new manager in next week timescale wise makes sense otherwise going into Xmas games with a caretaker If Stoke are trying for ambitious targets then fair play but should set a deadline for end of the weekend imho
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Post by lordb on Dec 16, 2023 8:43:54 GMT
A professional response, he’s already in employment Yeah - but one that also shows he'd be open to a knock on his door from us (which it sounds like has been forthcoming). The other option in that situation is a dismissal of interest, which noticeably was not there. He'd definitely be in the top 3 of the ones that have been mentioned for me Potter, Nuno and for me Carsley are the ambitious /unlikely targets Would then have JDT and Jokanovic as still decent but more achievable targets With Eustace, imo, as acceptable
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Post by baconburger on Dec 16, 2023 8:44:11 GMT
I'm hard of hearing I'd think they said Carlsberg. Wouldn’t wish that piss on anyone I only really drink lager in Spain it all tastes pretty much the same to me. When you drink real ales it’s all pretty much a poor imitation.
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Post by trotter1980 on Dec 16, 2023 8:45:29 GMT
I don’t really care who’s next manager. I just hope whoever it is can turn things around. I don’t want a refurbed “Richard’s”, or a fan park, or San Miguel by popular demand, or even a train station by the ground, or bullshit PR nights meeting the manager and Jon. I just want a decent team, that plays good football. I think that has been the lost priority here. I aren't bothered if they play nice football or not i just want someone who can produce results, We have gone down hill ever since the fans called for better football than what Mr Pulis was giving us.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 16, 2023 8:47:06 GMT
6 Jan 18 Hughes sacked 16 Jan 18 Lambert appointed 18 May 18 Lambert leaves 22 May 18 Rowett appointed 8 Jan 19 Rowett sacked 9 Jan 19 Jones appointed 1 Nov 19 Jones sacked 8 Nov 19 MON appointed 25 Aug 22 MON sacked 28 Aug 22 Neil appointed Looking at the last few, they're normally quite quick. Although the Lambert thing was delayed by the QSF farce, amongst other things. And the Jones appointment was lightning quick, as really was Neil, and had clearly been lined up. Doesn't look they really know what they want to do this time I’m looking for hours not days.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 16, 2023 8:49:26 GMT
Wouldn’t wish that piss on anyone I only really drink lager in Spain it all tastes pretty much the same to me. When you drink real ales it’s all pretty much a poor imitation. You are very close to the truth here! ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/jitsPgqXBozY69AOPrPg.gif)
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 16, 2023 8:50:04 GMT
Yeah - but one that also shows he'd be open to a knock on his door from us (which it sounds like has been forthcoming). The other option in that situation is a dismissal of interest, which noticeably was not there. He'd definitely be in the top 3 of the ones that have been mentioned for me Potter, Nuno and for me Carsley are the ambitious /unlikely targets Would then have JDT and Jokanovic as still decent but more achievable targets With Eustace, imo, as acceptable Nuno is the dream, and seems more achievable than Potter, you'd think. And just looking around, there's definitely enough noise from people who are in the Stoke chatter ecosystem to believe there's some kind of there there. But Stoke's denial is...interesting. If that's unworkable, Carsley or JDT would enthuse me. Jokanovic is interesting. Despite Dorsett saying he's on the shortlist and him sitting there witing for a job and us having targeted him previously, I'm not detecting any chat about him at all Schumacher's odds fall is also another significant move and suggests there's a there there with him too. But no idea what to think on that one. Eustace would just about clear the bar into acceptability for me, but don't think it'd generate any enthusiasm at all.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 16, 2023 8:51:06 GMT
I don’t really care who’s next manager. I just hope whoever it is can turn things around. I don’t want a refurbed “Richard’s”, or a fan park, or San Miguel by popular demand, or even a train station by the ground, or bullshit PR nights meeting the manager and Jon. I just want a decent team, that plays good football. I think that has been the lost priority here. I aren't bothered if they play nice football or not i just want someone who can produce results, We have gone down hill ever since the fans called for better football than what Mr Pulis was giving us. Really you must have hated the best football we’ve played since the 70’s. Shit football doesn’t Produce results as Mr Pulis found out at WBA who he relegated every bit as much as Hughes relegated Stoke. Why do we have so many fans who believe in the cult of shit football.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 8:51:52 GMT
6 Jan 18 Hughes sacked 16 Jan 18 Lambert appointed 18 May 18 Lambert leaves 22 May 18 Rowett appointed 8 Jan 19 Rowett sacked 9 Jan 19 Jones appointed 1 Nov 19 Jones sacked 8 Nov 19 MON appointed 25 Aug 22 MON sacked 28 Aug 22 Neil appointed Looking at the last few, they're normally quite quick. Although the Lambert thing was delayed by the QSF farce, amongst other things. And the Jones appointment was lightning quick, as really was Neil, and had clearly been lined up. Doesn't look they really know what they want to do this time I think with Jared and Martin there will be more deliberation this time around, which will delay the process somewhat. Previously it's been Peter, John, and Dicky Smith. The latter being predominantly a civil engineer so pretty much it's been on John's shoulders. It *might* just produce a more rounded process this time and it might yield a different result, although my confidence in Martin is very low. Jared I have higher hopes for so hopefully he has an input even if it's data related. Martin strikes me as the David Brent type who will rinse out every last drop of the process and dictate they have 60,000 rounds of interviews, each one of them recorded and minuted before deep diving into KPI analysis hell...
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Post by lordb on Dec 16, 2023 8:58:49 GMT
6 Jan 18 Hughes sacked 16 Jan 18 Lambert appointed 18 May 18 Lambert leaves 22 May 18 Rowett appointed 8 Jan 19 Rowett sacked 9 Jan 19 Jones appointed 1 Nov 19 Jones sacked 8 Nov 19 MON appointed 25 Aug 22 MON sacked 28 Aug 22 Neil appointed Looking at the last few, they're normally quite quick. Although the Lambert thing was delayed by the QSF farce, amongst other things. And the Jones appointment was lightning quick, as really was Neil, and had clearly been lined up. Doesn't look they really know what they want to do this time I think with Jared and Martin there will be more deliberation this time around, which will delay the process somewhat. Previously it's been Peter, John, and Dicky Smith. The latter being predominantly a civil engineer so pretty much it's been on John's shoulders. It *might* just produce a more rounded process this time and it might yield a different result, although my confidence in Martin is very low. Jared I have higher hopes for so hopefully he has an input even if it's data related. Martin strikes me as the David Brent type who will rinse out every last drop of the process and dictate they have 60,000 rounds of interviews, each one of them recorded and minuted before deep diving into KPI analysis hell... Too many cooks
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 16, 2023 9:01:27 GMT
Who are we going to moan our bag off about today then...? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 16, 2023 9:12:59 GMT
They said when Neil was sacked, they wanted a manager to take the team in a different direction, would suggest more continental/foreign approach, someone like Eustace would fly in the face of that, as it would be rinse & repeat.
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