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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 14:41:30 GMT
Certainly interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much overlap in links and rumours between Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea. All you would assume have similar pull. Yes but Swansea think they need to play like man City, Sunderland want all their players to be just out of nappies. As for us God knows what identity we are going for.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2023 14:44:10 GMT
Certainly interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much overlap in links and rumours between Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea. All you would assume have similar pull. Yes but Swansea think they need to play like man City, Sunderland want all their players to be just out of nappies. As for us God knows what identity we are going for. A solid lower championship club maybe.
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Post by ian57 on Dec 15, 2023 14:44:21 GMT
Our itk experts are having another mare by the look of it.
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 15, 2023 14:52:49 GMT
Sunderland parted ways with TM on 04 December.
If that timescale is anything to go by then plenty more enjoyment to come!🙂
I cannot remember Stoke changing managers this close to Christmas before? We must be patient during this very busy shopping season!
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Post by rowleyscfc on Dec 15, 2023 14:57:38 GMT
We're not a top club agreed, we've got the financial power too be and could well of been if if the club was run properly whislt we sleepwalked into relegation and the years of mediocrity since. We're always going to be taking the cheaper option, i understand FFP now puts restraints on us. but what was the excuse when we did the same when Hull wanted 8mil for Andy Robertson and we took Josh Tymon instead? wonder how that one worked out We sleepwalked to relegation because we sold our leading goal scorer and creative force and spunked most of that money on CB’s and tried to replace him with gimmicks Jessy, Cheapo and ultimately a finished Crouch. Absolutely fucking nothing to do with Left Backs. Arnie said the club lacked ambition, and he was right and they're proving him right year on year, i wasn't saying that not signing Andy Robertson is the reason we went down but terrible footballing decisions for the ground up did that was just one example
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Post by northernstokie on Dec 15, 2023 15:03:16 GMT
It does have the feel of Appointment Day for Eustace. What does MC post say it won't load for me.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 15:04:49 GMT
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Post by TheMmaeestro on Dec 15, 2023 15:05:18 GMT
Maybe I have low expectations but the new manager not being Alex Neil is enough for me to give whoever is appointed a chance to turn things around!
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Post by northernstokie on Dec 15, 2023 15:12:30 GMT
From 20s to 2s is a pretty big shift even allowing for the notoriously dodgy manager betting market. Something is afoot with this one methinks. Isn't that what happened with Jones? I'm sure he came from nowhere and the odds slashed in a few hours.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 15:17:40 GMT
We sleepwalked to relegation because we sold our leading goal scorer and creative force and spunked most of that money on CB’s and tried to replace him with gimmicks Jessy, Cheapo and ultimately a finished Crouch. Absolutely fucking nothing to do with Left Backs. Arnie said the club lacked ambition, and he was right and they're proving him right year on year, i wasn't saying that not signing Andy Robertson is the reason we went down but terrible footballing decisions for the ground up did that was just one example No doubt in my mind about that. We had zero net spend that window and no transfer fees on forwards or creative players. Anyone would have thought we were a free scoring team with attacking talent in abundance when in fact the opposite was true. 10 seasons in the prem never hit 50 goals once. Bournemouth did it in their second season up, yeah you heard me right fucking Bournemouth. But still many Stoke fans think defensive low scoring football is the way to go🧠🪦
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 15:20:18 GMT
Arnie said the club lacked ambition, and he was right and they're proving him right year on year, i wasn't saying that not signing Andy Robertson is the reason we went down but terrible footballing decisions for the ground up did that was just one example No doubt in my mind about that. We had zero net spend that window and no transfer fees on forwards or creative players. Anyone would have thought we were a free scoring team with attacking talent in abundance when in fact the opposite was true. 10 seasons in the prem never hit 50 goals once. Bournemouth did it in their second season up, yeah you heard me right fucking Bournemouth. But still many Stoke fans think defensive low scoring football is the way to go🧠🪦 Then in January we spent £19M on a DM & a RB you couldn’t fucking make it up.
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Post by karl on Dec 15, 2023 15:24:40 GMT
So it looks like the next manager will be Eustace until the end of the season. I wonder if this cost saving will mean he has some transfer kitty?
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 15, 2023 15:31:50 GMT
What does MC post say it won't load for me. MC is just quoting FM without adding anything. Effectively, endorsing FM.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 15, 2023 15:32:33 GMT
From Will Still to Pete Beale via a whole host of other names. I really don't think I understand why Mowbray was kicked out if this is their conclusion 😅 Slightly adjusted post to ease the Friday hype in our own camp....with slight apologies to haway
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Post by rowleyscfc on Dec 15, 2023 15:32:42 GMT
Arnie said the club lacked ambition, and he was right and they're proving him right year on year, i wasn't saying that not signing Andy Robertson is the reason we went down but terrible footballing decisions for the ground up did that was just one example No doubt in my mind about that. We had zero net spend that window and no transfer fees on forwards or creative players. Anyone would have thought we were a free scoring team with attacking talent in abundance when in fact the opposite was true. 10 seasons in the prem never hit 50 goals once. Bournemouth did it in their second season up, yeah you heard me right fucking Bournemouth. But still many Stoke fans think defensive low scoring football is the way to go🧠🪦 For me after we beat Liverpool 6-1 and in that summer sold N'zonzi and Begovic, We should of done everything possible to keep them, breaking the wage bill everything, I truly believe we could of too the next steps to becoming regular challengers for Europe, instead we sold them replaced them lazily and ended up coming down off the back of it, If the £60mil we spent when we come down would of been spent that summer we might of still been in the prem thriving, but hey ho championship relegation battles it is
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Post by datguy on Dec 15, 2023 15:34:43 GMT
So it looks like the next manager will be Eustace until the end of the season. I wonder if this cost saving will mean he has some transfer kitty? That rumour was posted by a Cardiff fan and has since been proven to be absolutely shite. I’m not saying it isn’t going to be Eustace. Equally however, it appears that the managerial hunt is still very much open and could be anyone. Tomasson for example provided the biggest non-answer to a direct question re Stoke. Schumacher’s odds have fallen massively. Carsley very much an option apparently. The only think we do know (and it’s no shock whatsoever) is that Nuno was never in the race.
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 15, 2023 15:36:58 GMT
Ok then name a top British manager? Erm.....Alex Ferguson ? So you are saying we haven't had a top British manager for at least 10 years.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 15:37:12 GMT
If only Tony Mowbray wasn't Tony Mowbray, he looks ideal.
Decent football, plays youngsters, available.
6th and 8th last 2 seasons with 2 different clubs
But...he's Tony Mowbray
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 15, 2023 15:40:40 GMT
If only Tony Mowbray wasn't Tony Mowbray, he looks ideal. Decent football, plays youngsters, available. 6th and 8th last 2 seasons with 2 different clubs But...he's Tony Mowbray Constantly looks like a Bulldog chewing a wasp with that misery guts face of his. Not the worst of the choices available, but as you say, it's Tony Mowbray!
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 15, 2023 15:41:05 GMT
From Will Still to Pete Beale via a whole host of other names. I really don't think I understand why Mowbray was kicked out if this is their conclusion 😅 Slightly adjusted post to ease the Friday hype in our own camp....with slight apologies to haway Perhaps the Sunderland appointment is a Christmas prank for a new Sunderland Netflix series? “Beale’s About” 🙃
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 15, 2023 15:43:33 GMT
Mowbray? Ffs, hire their manager who'd won promotion, sack him then hire the man that they replaced him with who they then sacked.
#ambition
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Post by stokie1947 on Dec 15, 2023 15:43:42 GMT
surely if it's Eustace it would have been announced by now interesting about the Plymouth manager 20's into 2-1 again looks likely to be going down the same route as normal
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 15, 2023 15:45:57 GMT
Mowbray? Ffs, hire their manager who'd won promotion, sack him then hire the man that they replaced him with who they then sacked. #ambition Or, framed another way: Fire the man who took them from 3rd to 6th in Lge One then snuck up through the playoffs. Hire the man who got them into the playoffs in the league above while also blooding a raft of young players. Suppose it’s about perspective. You don’t have to defend Alex Neil now he’s gone, you know.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Dec 15, 2023 15:47:35 GMT
Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. We're not a top club agreed, we've got the financial power too be and could well of been if if the club was run properly whislt we sleepwalked into relegation and the years of mediocrity since. We're always going to be taking the cheaper option, i understand FFP now puts restraints on us. but what was the excuse when we did the same when Hull wanted 8mil for Andy Robertson and we took Josh Tymon instead? wonder how that one worked out Robertson was on his way to sign for us when his agent phoned to say Liverpool were interested. Erm, Liverpool or Stoke? That's a though decision! You can't blame the board for that one.
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Post by haway on Dec 15, 2023 15:48:54 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 15, 2023 15:52:46 GMT
Mowbray? Ffs, hire their manager who'd won promotion, sack him then hire the man that they replaced him with who they then sacked. #ambition Or, framed another way: Fire the man who took them from 3rd to 6th in Lge One then snuck up through the playoffs. Hire the man who got them into the playoffs in the league above while also blooding a raft of young players. Suppose it’s about perspective. You don’t have to defend Alex Neil now he’s gone, you know. No, I just thought he won promotion
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Post by stokesupporter on Dec 15, 2023 16:02:13 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Mowbray.
Wouldn't be too disapppointed either, he isn't the most exciting name for sure but he'd keep us easily in this division. And his stats are pretty good too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 16:07:21 GMT
If only Tony Mowbray wasn't Tony Mowbray, he looks ideal. Decent football, plays youngsters, available. 6th and 8th last 2 seasons with 2 different clubs But...he's Tony Mowbray He definitely doesn't LOOK ideal. In fact he's bloody frightening! Joking aside (tin hat at the ready) I wouldn't be too upset with Mowbray.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 15, 2023 16:09:53 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Mowbray. Wouldn't be too disapppointed either, he isn't the most exciting name for sure but he'd keep us easily in this division. And his stats are pretty good too. i would be seriously deflated and its very meh is all i can say about it i want us to go in a new direction, i just want to enjoy games, watching out of date british merchants of shit has got very boring
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 15, 2023 16:10:29 GMT
"Expectation is at the route of all heartache"
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