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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 15, 2023 14:15:09 GMT
Would have thought Sunderland could have drawn a better candidate than Beale.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2023 14:15:12 GMT
Do you mean like Pep being allowed to do just that at Man City? That's exactly how the very top managers work - they head up a team and a club is taking on the team, not just one man. And it costs a lot of money. I suspect that is what has done for Nuno. Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. So we end up with the usual rubbish,then be stuck where we are,or even lower for years to come.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 14:17:00 GMT
Beale was flavour of the month at QPR briefly wasn't he?
And he was supposedly the brains behind Gerrard (such as they were on display) in Scotland.
He may come good, who knows?
At least it doesn't knock one of the contenders out for us.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:19:36 GMT
Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. So we end up with the usual rubbish,then be stuck where we are,or even lower for years to come. You obviously believe in the “God Manager” I don’t. I’d much prefer a Watford type model that’s slightly less trigger happy but not much less.
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Post by datguy on Dec 15, 2023 14:21:15 GMT
An okay appointment for Sunderland but must admit it’s far more ordinary than I thought they would go.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 15, 2023 14:21:22 GMT
Beale to Sunderland??
Hahaha PLIBT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 14:21:51 GMT
Beale to Sunderland?? Hahaha PLIBT Wait and see what we end up with before laughing... 😃
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 15, 2023 14:22:35 GMT
An okay appointment for Sunderland but must admit it’s far more ordinary than I thought they would go. Its surprised me a little I expected them to get somebody from the continent.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:22:54 GMT
Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. Oh well, if you'd rather we just got relegated then.. Oh right I didn’t realise these things were mutual. So it’s Nuno or relegation, says who?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 15, 2023 14:23:06 GMT
Beale to Sunderland?? Hahaha PLIBT Wait and see what we end up with before laughing... 😃 that and also where we finish in the league
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 15, 2023 14:24:24 GMT
Most comments on Sunderland equate to 'zero ambition' from their board with this appointment. What do fans know though?
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Post by rowleyscfc on Dec 15, 2023 14:25:02 GMT
Do you mean like Pep being allowed to do just that at Man City? That's exactly how the very top managers work - they head up a team and a club is taking on the team, not just one man. And it costs a lot of money. I suspect that is what has done for Nuno. Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. We're not a top club agreed, we've got the financial power too be and could well of been if if the club was run properly whislt we sleepwalked into relegation and the years of mediocrity since. We're always going to be taking the cheaper option, i understand FFP now puts restraints on us. but what was the excuse when we did the same when Hull wanted 8mil for Andy Robertson and we took Josh Tymon instead? wonder how that one worked out
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 14:25:03 GMT
Wait and see what we end up with before laughing... 😃 that and also where we finish in the league Puts paid to the story that carsley is looking to join them over us
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 15, 2023 14:26:35 GMT
All the money now is for Schumacher. What the hell is going on 😂😂😂 Pure Stoke this is. Next week won’t be this much fun
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 14:27:45 GMT
All the money now is for Schumacher. What the hell is going on 😂😂😂 Pure Stoke this is. Next week won’t be this much fun Probably decide to stick with gally
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Post by stiggerstackle on Dec 15, 2023 14:27:47 GMT
Why do grown fucking men feel the need to start bullshit rumours?!? Talk about counter-productive if they’re actually Stoke fans? Half this board would have been happy with SJE before, but after 24hrs of nursing a Nuno semi, SJE just feels like a let down. Wankers.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 14:32:26 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:32:42 GMT
Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. We're not a top club agreed, we've got the financial power too be and could well of been if if the club was run properly whislt we sleepwalked into relegation and the years of mediocrity since. We're always going to be taking the cheaper option, i understand FFP now puts restraints on us. but what was the excuse when we did the same when Hull wanted 8mil for Andy Robertson and we took Josh Tymon instead? wonder how that one worked out We sleepwalked to relegation because we sold our leading goal scorer and creative force and spunked most of that money on CB’s and tried to replace him with gimmicks Jessy, Cheapo and ultimately a finished Crouch. Absolutely fucking nothing to do with Left Backs.
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Post by datguy on Dec 15, 2023 14:33:23 GMT
Certainly interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much overlap in links and rumours between Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea.
All you would assume have similar pull.
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Post by stokief on Dec 15, 2023 14:34:47 GMT
Oh well, if you'd rather we just got relegated then.. Oh right I didn’t realise these things were mutual. So it’s Nuno or relegation, says who? No, it's a manager who will get the attention of the team, who they've actually heard of and might even listen to rather than someone who they won't be interested in 'cause they wouldn't recognise them if they tripped over them!
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Post by juiceandbits on Dec 15, 2023 14:35:14 GMT
So he is on the shortlist. I think we could do worse honestly.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 15, 2023 14:35:38 GMT
Beale was flavour of the month at QPR briefly wasn't he? And he was supposedly the brains behind Gerrard (such as they were on display) in Scotland. He may come good, who knows? At least it doesn't knock one of the contenders out for us. Just goes to show what a brief little run somewhere can do to your status. Now who is favourite for us? You've just got to hope whoever you get, unless you've done well to lure a really good proven name, has one of those runs when they turn up at ours
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 15, 2023 14:36:11 GMT
Do you mean like Pep being allowed to do just that at Man City? That's exactly how the very top managers work - they head up a team and a club is taking on the team, not just one man. And it costs a lot of money. I suspect that is what has done for Nuno. Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. Fine - and if Nuno wants to bring his entourage and we say he can't he just walks away. Do you really think we can dictate the terms?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:36:56 GMT
Certainly interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much overlap in links and rumours between Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea. All you would assume have similar pull. Really I’d have assumed Swansea had considerably less pull in terms of finance, club size etc and much much more if you were primarily focused on where you were going to live.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 14:37:08 GMT
So he is on the shortlist. I think we could do worse honestly. Much worse, yeah. I'd love it if we got him
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Post by sportsman on Dec 15, 2023 14:37:19 GMT
So he is on the shortlist. I think we could do worse honestly. Doing really well there. Impressed with them when they came ours the other week. Quick, hard working, brave on the ball
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 14:37:28 GMT
So he is on the shortlist. I think we could do worse honestly. Christ if he hasn't got time to get any sleep there, god help him here
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Post by stokie23 on Dec 15, 2023 14:37:36 GMT
My view on Eustace is that, last season when we played Birmingham at Stoke (which they won 1-2) they looked a totally different team to the Birmingham’s of the previous few years. Very well structured, dangerous on the counter and took the game to us.
Later that season, Eustace kept them up against all odds.
They did decent business in the summer and got Dion Sanderson in, a player we went in for and lost out despite having (presumedly) more financial clout.
He then managed Brum for 12 games and left with them sat in 6th.
Assessing win percentages is totally without context. If it is him, give him the support and I’d go out on a limb and say it’ll be our first top half finish.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:40:26 GMT
Oh right I didn’t realise these things were mutual. So it’s Nuno or relegation, says who? No, it's a manager who will get the attention of the team, who they've actually heard of and might even listen to rather than someone who they won't be interested in 'cause they wouldn't recognise them if they tripped over them! Most of our players are fucking nobody’s not like players who’ve had top careers. If they’ve got ego’s they haven’t earned them.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 14:41:27 GMT
Yes we’re not a top club and we’re not hiring elite managers. As I keep saying 1 assistant is plenty. Work with what we have and you’ll have a voice on replacement of natural wastage. Nuno + 1 assistant fine. Nuno plus half a dozen hangers on and ties to agents etc not fine. Fine - and if Nuno wants to bring his entourage and we say he can't he just walks away. Do you really think we can dictate the terms? Yeah I’m sure we can and should. No more god managers.
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