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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 15, 2023 10:47:57 GMT
Hang on, am I right that one person has said they’ve heard it’s Eustace and we’ve all accepted that as gospel or have I missed something? Think it's that coupled with the odds drop and the claim Carsley has said no (although I can't find that in the Mail online - maybe it was in the paper copy?) He really came in about quarter to ten last night. From about 3s to 1/2. And more overnight Still not 100% convinced it'll be him, but starting to get that sense When you’re worried mate, I think the rest of us are 😉. However, at one point, when the Neil vitriol was peaking, many on here were pushing for SJE. If it’s him then so be it. What he has going for him is that he’s not Alex Neil 😉
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Post by glpotter on Dec 15, 2023 10:50:03 GMT
That’s a disappointing 24 hours
Feel like I’ve lined up a date with margot Robbie, she’s not turned up but Susan Boyle has asked me for a date this morning
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 15, 2023 10:50:05 GMT
Can people just look at Birminghams results this season whilst Eustace was in charge and tell me why this is a good appointment (16th was 2 points off 6th when he got sacked). If Coates goes with it then the sooner he gives up running this club like the clown he is, the better. Absolute shit show of a club. But it’s our shit show 😂 I understand some Man U fans are thinking of switching allegiance to us if they appoint Potter. Young English uninspiring character 😂😂
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Post by jokker on Dec 15, 2023 10:50:48 GMT
Eustace is 42, not fucking 65. He's worked his way up and done two completely separate managerial jobs at different levels as well as working as a coach at QPR. In what way is he any different to someone like McKenna? Because he's not called Juan Eustacino? Some of the comments are just wildly OTT. Well McKenna’s name isn’t McKennarino so not sure what point you’re trying to make there😂. Eustace has already shown what he is, another pragmatist who likes to play 352 but often switches systems. Sound like anyone else you know? He’s another safe, boring appointment and I can guarantee you will end up another Rowett. Gets plucky underdogs nice mid table security but will never be anything more. Maybe it's time to learn that getting Rowett the sack wasn't really that smart. If he'd stayed for five years where would we be? Bored to death maybe but very likely a top third team, having possibly suffered the heartbreak of one or two failed po finals. Would we sack him then?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 15, 2023 10:51:13 GMT
I was rooting for SJE when he got the boot from Brum and he might be a decent appointment. I think though in the last couple of days I've got a bit carried away by some of the names mentioned.
The bigger question for me is if it is SJE is coming in as a manager or as a head coach?
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Post by beats88 on Dec 15, 2023 10:51:26 GMT
All these last few days has shown, is that a club without a plan is controlled by the tide. And rudderless. The Nuno interest suggests one way forward, Carsley another, Eustace another. If the job spec was written up, what are the desirables and essentials? These three managers are all completely different, and it's difficult not to imagine John Coates staring at their applications like a dog watching a three cups and a pea magic trick. That's spot on. Any of those 3 could be excellent or terrible appointments. We won't know until one is appointed. What it does show, like you say, is that we don't have a defined criteria or continuation plan. Those 3 are completely different animals. I think this is make or break for John.
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Post by hwrpotter on Dec 15, 2023 10:55:08 GMT
The other worrying thing about Eustace is that it’s an appointment which divides the entire fanbase. Which if your’re JC is about the worst thing you could want as it’ll eventually lead to everyone being united against him. We are an absolute shambles of a club.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 15, 2023 10:57:19 GMT
He's shown that he's a pragmatist at Birmingham who were utterly shite and wrecked financially? He's had one job at this level, so how can you guarantee anything? Only time will tell I guess but let’s talk again in 3/4 months and see what we think then. I’m pretty confident you’ll have changed your tune though. Obviously that can happen, but I'd at least rather start off hopeful than waiting for it to happen, which is what feels like is the case with a lot of posters. It could also turn out to be a clever appointment that works.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 15, 2023 10:58:38 GMT
I was rooting for SJE when he got the boot from Brum and he might be a decent appointment. I think though in the last couple of days I've got a bit carried away by some of the names mentioned. The bigger question for me is if it is SJE is coming in as a manager or as a head coach? Exactly - there was loads saying GET HIM IN when he got sacked and Neil was still here. Now it's like the board is suicidal because he's not Nuno.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 15, 2023 10:58:42 GMT
Whilst I'll get behind Eustace it really just smack of turning to your 3rd choice appointment in the way Lammert was otherwise he would have been appointed on Monday if we really wanted him. Would the disappointment have been there has the names of Nuno and Carsley not been banded around, I don't think so half as much. In fairness Nuno hasn’t been in the press at all. Only the odd rumour. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was no where near the job. Yeah I agree with that and ultimately that's an issue with social media and today's world. In years gone by it would have merely been rumblings in the pubs and stands with odd snippet of rumour in the paper. A,random person could literally post #managers name #Stoke and the snow ball effect will roll Every Stoke fan wants the club to be ambitious and successful at the same time. There isn't a single manager in the world that 100% guaranteed to be a success and there are plenty of top top managers who have failed in a post, very few are untouched. I think it's unfair to lambast the club with no ambition lines if Eustace is appointed. I think it's just to disappoint when your hear some of the other potential managers and different route taken.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 15, 2023 10:58:56 GMT
Squad wise we’re not far off a good side. Keeper, left back, centre back and then the rest is up to the manager and how they use the players. I think there’d be a lot of interest in the vacancy to be honest. We haven't got a decent striker!
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Post by wonderwall on Dec 15, 2023 10:59:17 GMT
That’s a disappointing 24 hours Feel like I’ve lined up a date with margot Robbie, she’s not turned up but Susan Boyle has asked me for a date this morning I’d still let her tug me off tbh.
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Post by wonderwall on Dec 15, 2023 11:00:48 GMT
So we’re just presuming it’s SJE by the betting? There’s no other indication he’s preferred?
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Post by nott1 on Dec 15, 2023 11:01:01 GMT
That’s a disappointing 24 hours Feel like I’ve lined up a date with margot Robbie, she’s not turned up but Susan Boyle has asked me for a date this morning What makes you think you are good enough for Her?
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 11:01:14 GMT
I just wondered where the different direction element is that the club mentioned they wanted to go in, unless this basically means Neil one way, us the other
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Post by glpotter on Dec 15, 2023 11:01:42 GMT
That’s a disappointing 24 hours Feel like I’ve lined up a date with margot Robbie, she’s not turned up but Susan Boyle has asked me for a date this morning I’d still let her tug me off tbh. Been a while has it?
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 15, 2023 11:02:07 GMT
Well McKenna’s name isn’t McKennarino so not sure what point you’re trying to make there😂. Eustace has already shown what he is, another pragmatist who likes to play 352 but often switches systems. Sound like anyone else you know? He’s another safe, boring appointment and I can guarantee you will end up another Rowett. Gets plucky underdogs nice mid table security but will never be anything more. Maybe it's time to learn that getting Rowett the sack wasn't really that smart. If he'd stayed for five years where would we be? Bored to death maybe but very likely a top third team, having possibly suffered the heartbreak of one or two failed po finals. Would we sack him then? Totally agree, should never have sacked him
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Post by Pricey on Dec 15, 2023 11:03:20 GMT
I’m pro-Eustace, even though we’re a shambles as a club at this level. If it is him I don’t think he’ll let us down and based on what I’ve seen of him as a manager I think it’d feel like a breath of fresh air vs what’s come before. He represents a good balance between the personalities of our successful managers and is like a not batshit mental Nathan Jones.
In Eustace I trust.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 15, 2023 11:04:52 GMT
I was rooting for SJE when he got the boot from Brum and he might be a decent appointment. I think though in the last couple of days I've got a bit carried away by some of the names mentioned. The bigger question for me is if it is SJE is coming in as a manager or as a head coach? Exactly - there was loads saying GET HIM IN when he got sacked and Neil was still here. Now it's like the board is suicidal because he's not Nuno. If it's him, I think he will be ok but still stuck in whatever it is that drags us down since JC took charge, it's not the managers as some have proven they are ok elsewhere, something is not right in the culture of our club, I wish I knew what it was. I thnk that SJE will make a fist of it and get us to our customary lower half finish, that now seems our level as the table does not lie
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 15, 2023 11:06:05 GMT
So we’re just presuming it’s SJE by the betting? There’s no other indication he’s preferred? Literally only the betting. So nothing even close to being concrete. What's funny is when Nuno was odds on people were saying it won't happen... Now Eustace is odds on apparently that means it's happening
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Post by flea79 on Dec 15, 2023 11:06:54 GMT
I’m pro-Eustace, even though we’re a shambles as a club at this level. If it is him I don’t think he’ll let us down and based on what I’ve seen of him as a manager I think it’d feel like a breath of fresh air vs what’s come before. He represents a good balance between the personalities of our successful managers and is like a not batshit mental Nathan Jones. In Eustace I trust. its just another plodding British manager who will achieve the square root of sod all i really really want to be wrong though!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 15, 2023 11:07:41 GMT
Maybe it's time to learn that getting Rowett the sack wasn't really that smart. If he'd stayed for five years where would we be? Bored to death maybe but very likely a top third team, having possibly suffered the heartbreak of one or two failed po finals. Would we sack him then? Totally agree, should never have sacked him He wasted over £50m on a crock of shit, totally the wrong appointment, he was like a kiddie in a sweetshop with our money, that is why he went. give any of the others 50m even Nathan and they would have at least got a fee or two for one of those signings
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Post by Pricey on Dec 15, 2023 11:09:17 GMT
I’m pro-Eustace, even though we’re a shambles as a club at this level. If it is him I don’t think he’ll let us down and based on what I’ve seen of him as a manager I think it’d feel like a breath of fresh air vs what’s come before. He represents a good balance between the personalities of our successful managers and is like a not batshit mental Nathan Jones. In Eustace I trust. its just another plodding British manager who will achieve the square root of sod all i really really want to be wrong though! Prepare to get what you want. I’m telling you: bloke will bring back the good times.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 15, 2023 11:09:51 GMT
I said early on there's only one criteria that counts. Can the coates family take the manager out for dinner every week? Could you see a foreign manager doing that and communicating well? Probably the first question on the interview is, we like to have good communication with our manager and go out for a meal once a week, is that ok with you?
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Post by flea79 on Dec 15, 2023 11:10:04 GMT
its just another plodding British manager who will achieve the square root of sod all i really really want to be wrong though! Prepare to get what you want. I’m telling you: bloke will bring back the good times. you mean we will end up in league one and might actually compete for something again!
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 15, 2023 11:11:54 GMT
Totally agree, should never have sacked him He wasted over £50m on a crock of shit, totally the wrong appointment, he was like a kiddie in a sweetshop with our money, that is why he went. give any of the others 50m even Nathan and they would have at least got a fee or two for one of those signings Perhaps not the same Nathan Jones that signed Sam Vokes for 9m????
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Post by miggo on Dec 15, 2023 11:12:09 GMT
I don't think ive seen these levels of hysteria in my lifetime. All of it based from a rumour that a manger may have been interested in us when in fact not one credible source has come into back it up and now ppl online are wanting to return tickets and to claim giving up the club altogether.
Who are these ppl in real life because if they are as dumb as they sound I know several nigerian princes that need financial aid in order to release billions to them at a later date.....
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Post by telfordstokie on Dec 15, 2023 11:12:19 GMT
If Nuno and Carsley aren’t going to happen, then I’d be happy with Eustace, he seems to be a decent young manager on the rise who is coming in with a point to prove to the Brum owners. I know people get sniffy about us hiring ex-players but I do like the fact he has a Stoke link and I always liked him as a player.
But my one concern/reservation is whether he is going to be a strong enough character to deal with some of the internal politics at the club that John Percy flagged in his article on Neil getting sacked.
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Post by Pricey on Dec 15, 2023 11:12:51 GMT
Prepare to get what you want. I’m telling you: bloke will bring back the good times. you mean we will end up in league one and might actually compete for something again! Top half finish I say. Promotion challenge 24/25. Promotion 25/26.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 11:14:20 GMT
Huge mistake if we turn our noses up at Nuno, it would be a ridiculous decision
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