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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 14, 2023 23:35:53 GMT
Eustace just screams more of the same shit we've had since Mark Hughes. Just bargain basement managers. If we end up with Eustace this club has no ambition. British managers are shite end of. What a stupid comment 🤣🤣 "British managers are shite" Jesus christ there's some wetwipes on here They all play the same dull style of football and very rarely land a big club here or abroad. Nobody wants them, most of the Prem don't want them, internationally nobody wants them because they are shite.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 14, 2023 23:36:22 GMT
Eustace just screams more of the same shit we've had since Mark Hughes. Just bargain basement managers. If we end up with Eustace this club has no ambition. British managers are shite end of. What a stupid comment 🤣🤣 "British managers are shite" Jesus christ there's some wetwipes on here 10 managers have been sacked in the championship so far this season. 9 are British, 1 foreign. Let that sink in.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 23:38:11 GMT
What a stupid comment 🤣🤣 "British managers are shite" Jesus christ there's some wetwipes on here 10 managers have been sacked in the championship so far this season. 9 are British, 1 foreign. Let that sink in. It's still a pathetic comment 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 23:41:21 GMT
Carsley Eustace Nuno For me in that order NEA on Nuno but agree on the rest. Eustace was my main target but now they Carsley is in the mix I’ll be distraught if we don’t get him. He’d be a coup for us.
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 14, 2023 23:42:25 GMT
10 managers have been sacked in the championship so far this season. 9 are British, 1 foreign. Let that sink in. It's still a pathetic comment 🤣 Ok then name a top British manager?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2023 23:44:53 GMT
Carsley Eustace Nuno For me in that order NEA on Nuno but agree on the rest. Eustace was my main target but now they Carsley is in the mix I’ll be distraught if we don’t get him. He’d be a coup for us. Yeah it’d be a real statement of intent.
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Post by hamsta2 on Dec 14, 2023 23:44:59 GMT
Carsley Eustace Nuno For me in that order Ok. Why in that order ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2023 23:45:56 GMT
Carsley Eustace Nuno For me in that order Ok. Why in that order ? I’m not that fussed on Nuno. Carsley is one of the best young coaches around in this country. Eustace did a cracking job at Brum and is on the up.
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 14, 2023 23:52:06 GMT
I’m not that fussed on Nuno. Carsley is one of the best young coaches around in this country. Eustace did a cracking job at Brum and is on the up. If it has to be another British manager then surely it has to be Scott Parker. He has experience of getting promotion and he has links to bigger clubs others don't. It never hurts to have a manager with a few connections.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2023 23:56:05 GMT
I’m not that fussed on Nuno. Carsley is one of the best young coaches around in this country. Eustace did a cracking job at Brum and is on the up. If it has to be another British manager then surely it has to be Scott Parker. He has experience of getting promotion and he has links to bigger clubs others don't. It never hurts to have a manager with a few connections. I’d happily have Parker. I’d happily have Nuno tbh. All on paper you’d hope would do ok.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 15, 2023 0:11:09 GMT
It's still a pathetic comment 🤣 Ok then name a top British manager? Eddie Howe done brilliant and Newcastle. Potter is still very highly regarded in the game. Consider your pointless question answered.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 15, 2023 0:45:14 GMT
Ok then name a top British manager? Eddie Howe done brilliant and Newcastle. Potter is still very highly regarded in the game. Consider your pointless question answered. Potter is out of work through getting sacked from his last role, through being shit at it and Howe is plummeting down the league at a rate of knots having spent the first batch of the Saudi millions, finished rock bottom of their champions league group and is rumoured to be on the brink to being replaced, and I’ll bet my bottom dollar on it being by a foreign coach. Top 8 teams in the prem, 75% are foreign coaches. Stop being so condescending to someone when they have a valid point Joe.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Dec 15, 2023 1:02:00 GMT
Both Carsley and Eustace would be major gambles in a situation where we simply have to get it right this time.
Neither has any kind of proven track record in the Championship.
In Carsley’s case, there’s a world, no universe, of difference between running a successful young England side and managing for the first time in our league.
Eustace has done it for a few games at Birmingham, but remember failed managers at Stoke have also done it for a few games.
For me if by the grace of god, we can secure the services of Nuno, in my opinion, this would give us the best chance of initially getting away from the relegation zone then hopefully into a challenging position near the top, if not this season, the next. Remember when he first came into the English game to manage Wolves, they were actually in a far worse position than ourselves, so if nothing else he’s proved he’s got what it takes to turn a medium size club around.
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Post by stokeyank on Dec 15, 2023 3:18:13 GMT
Both Carsley and Eustace would be major gambles in a situation where we simply have to get it right this time. Neither has any kind of proven track record in the Championship. In Carsley’s case, there’s a world, no universe, of difference between running a successful young England side and managing for the first time in our league. Eustace has done it for a few games at Birmingham, but remember failed managers at Stoke have also done it for a few games. For me if by the grace of god, we can secure the services of Nuno, in my opinion, this would give us the best chance of initially getting away from the relegation zone then hopefully into a challenging position near the top, if not this season, the next. Remember when he first came into the English game to manage Wolves, they were actually in a far worse position than ourselves, so if nothing else he’s proved he’s got what it takes to turn a medium size club around. Anyone who has a question about any of these three read this again. It pretty much is as accurate as you can get on why and who we should be really after.
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Post by marrer on Dec 15, 2023 3:21:07 GMT
If it has to be another British manager then surely it has to be Scott Parker. He has experience of getting promotion and he has links to bigger clubs others don't. It never hurts to have a manager with a few connections. I’d happily have Parker. I’d happily have Nuno tbh. All on paper you’d hope would do ok. I’m hoping they’ll do ok on grass!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 15, 2023 3:23:23 GMT
Carsley Eustace Nuno For me in that order All 3 would be excellent. But I’d go Nuno Carsley Eustace I think Nuno would be an unbelievable appointment and would raise the profile of the club overnight. With his connections and reputation in the game people would want to play for him.
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Post by figo85 on Dec 15, 2023 6:32:57 GMT
I think, at this stage, I’d take anyone who doesn’t set the side up to fanny around with the ball at the back for 80% of the game. I’m fairly certain, with a few years of FM under my belt, I could do that.
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 15, 2023 6:34:49 GMT
Ok then name a top British manager? Eddie Howe done brilliant and Newcastle. Potter is still very highly regarded in the game. Consider your pointless question answered. I would class them as decent managers but are they really top managers? I don't think any of them have proved to be top managers yet. Potter did a steady job at Brighton whilst the manager who replaced him has got far more out of the same players. Howe has bottomless pit and are yet to look anywhere near the same team as last season. Until they both start winning a few trophies at big clubs I don't think either can be classed as top managers.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Dec 15, 2023 6:40:55 GMT
Both Carsley and Eustace would be major gambles in a situation where we simply have to get it right this time. Neither has any kind of proven track record in the Championship. In Carsley’s case, there’s a world, no universe, of difference between running a successful young England side and managing for the first time in our league. Eustace has done it for a few games at Birmingham, but remember failed managers at Stoke have also done it for a few games. For me if by the grace of god, we can secure the services of Nuno, in my opinion, this would give us the best chance of initially getting away from the relegation zone then hopefully into a challenging position near the top, if not this season, the next. Remember when he first came into the English game to manage Wolves, they were actually in a far worse position than ourselves, so if nothing else he’s proved he’s got what it takes to turn a medium size club around. Great post and sums up exactly where I'm at on this too, but you know our Board and their raging collective hard-on for British managers. I fear it'll be rinse and repeat by the end of next season if (when) they appoint Eustace
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Dec 15, 2023 6:55:09 GMT
It's still a pathetic comment 🤣 Ok then name a top British manager? Erm.....Alex Ferguson ?
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Post by stokiemarc on Dec 15, 2023 7:29:11 GMT
Ok then name a top British manager? Erm.....Alex Ferguson ? Would he still cut it now do you think? Or has the game changed? Does that 'firm hand style' just not work anymore ?
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Post by satoshi on Dec 15, 2023 7:33:18 GMT
Summat must have changed looking at the odds on Eustace 1/3.
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 15, 2023 7:41:11 GMT
It wouldn’t take a large bet in this market to bring odds tumbling down.
Someone may know something and has put a sizeable bet on. Someone may guess something and put a sizeable bet on or someone with too much money might have got pissed and just done it.
If the bookies knew anything they would shut the market down.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 15, 2023 7:46:46 GMT
It wouldn’t take a large bet in this market to bring odds tumbling down. Someone may know something and has put a sizeable bet on. Someone may guess something and put a sizeable bet on or someone with too much money might have got pissed and just done it. If the bookies knew anything they would shut the market down. Definitely. Such a hard market to regulate and monitor.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 15, 2023 7:47:32 GMT
Eustace it is then by the looks of it. Quite ironic really, after a supposedly thorough search, the man right under their noses and available turns out to be the best candidate 😉, or maybe the cheapest who is prepared to work within the same structure?.
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 15, 2023 7:48:27 GMT
JE 1/3 now surely something cooking there the bookies rarely get it wrong. Bookies rarely know stuff. Odds are just a reflection of money placed on a bet. Nuno might have had a bet on Eustace just in case he doesn’t get the job himself 😉
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 7:48:55 GMT
extra.ie/2023/12/15/sport/soccernews/lee-carsley-faiSunderland and Stoke City both want Lee Carsley to rescue their seasons as demand grows for the man who is frontrunner for the Republic of Ireland job. According to Stoke sources, officials at the ailing Championship club have identified Carsley, the current England U21 boss, as the successor to Alex Neill, who was dismissed following a fourth successive defeat on Saturday. Mail Sport understands Carsley won’t be heading to the Potteries but Sunderland, who parted company with Tony Mowbray earlier this month, could be harder to turn down.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 15, 2023 7:53:04 GMT
Having been on a post-Neil-departure "high" leading to me attending my first game at the Brit in 4 years I am now crashing badly as I can see the way the wind is now starting to blow and my dream of a continental revolution remaining just that as we seemingly revert to the safe haven that is domestic mundanity with more so-called "young, up and coming" unproven English mangers coming to the fore yet again. I hope I'm wrong but I think my half-season ticket cash is probably safe to be spent elsewhere- go on Stoke, surprise me .....
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 15, 2023 7:53:05 GMT
extra.ie/2023/12/15/sport/soccernews/lee-carsley-faiSunderland and Stoke City both want Lee Carsley to rescue their seasons as demand grows for the man who is frontrunner for the Republic of Ireland job. According to Stoke sources, officials at the ailing Championship club have identified Carsley, the current England U21 boss, as the successor to Alex Neill, who was dismissed following a fourth successive defeat on Saturday. Mail Sport understands Carsley won’t be heading to the Potteries but Sunderland, who parted company with Tony Mowbray earlier this month, could be harder to turn down. Interesting. Oddly worded article mind. But could be why Eustace odds shifted in. Bring on big SJE….
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 7:54:33 GMT
extra.ie/2023/12/15/sport/soccernews/lee-carsley-faiSunderland and Stoke City both want Lee Carsley to rescue their seasons as demand grows for the man who is frontrunner for the Republic of Ireland job. According to Stoke sources, officials at the ailing Championship club have identified Carsley, the current England U21 boss, as the successor to Alex Neill, who was dismissed following a fourth successive defeat on Saturday. Mail Sport understands Carsley won’t be heading to the Potteries but Sunderland, who parted company with Tony Mowbray earlier this month, could be harder to turn down. Interesting. Oddly worded article mind. But could be why Eustace odds shifted in. Bring on big SJE…. Eustace would leave me decidedly flat But if Carsley has turned it down and Nuno is a no-go, you can see it. Still hoping for an unlikely tilt for JDT - but now semi-resigned to SJE
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