|
Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 14, 2023 21:19:22 GMT
If it’s Carsley its a joke and the club have learnt fuck all He’s a very good coach
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:20:15 GMT
Steve Cooper and Michael Carrick didn't have any managerial experience, though, did they? And both took to it like a duck to water. His reputation is clearly high, and even names like Ashley Cole and big egos in the u21 camp are impressed. He's been around the block with hundreds of games in the Prem and international football, even playing at a World Cup - and he seems respected by anyone who has encountered him Fair comment FM. All I know is that it doesn't get me excited. If he turns that rabble into a coherent winning team then he's a magician. My concern is that he's only had a dozen games in the league management cauldron. He will be under pressure straight away and not be able to fanny about with systems and developing 20 year old future superstars who have had their bum wiped for them. All the best Lee. Fair enough - I get it! Everyone is entitled to their own reaction, and it's legitimate when we all care so much about it. I'd be same with Heckingbottom. But Carsley was always one that I would have liked. I think this Nuno link may have done more harm than good because everyone else isn't coming off too well in comparison with the idealised version of what could have been with him (if there's anything in it!)
|
|
|
Post by StokieNath on Dec 14, 2023 21:20:37 GMT
If it’s Carsley its a joke and the club have learnt fuck all He’s a very good coach Nuno is a very good coach, I don’t care that’s he’s worked with the under 21’s or whatever, Nuno is what the fans wanted
|
|
|
Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 14, 2023 21:23:14 GMT
Nuno is a very good coach, I don’t care that’s he’s worked with the under 21’s or whatever, Nuno is what the fans wanted Id rather Nuno too but Carsley would be a good manager I believe
|
|
|
Post by StokieNath on Dec 14, 2023 21:24:09 GMT
Nuno is a very good coach, I don’t care that’s he’s worked with the under 21’s or whatever, Nuno is what the fans wanted Id rather Nuno too but Carsley would be a good manager I believe its risky mate, very risky.
|
|
|
Post by victoria on Dec 14, 2023 21:24:28 GMT
Carsley would be ideal for building on the success of the Academy
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:24:33 GMT
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 21:24:41 GMT
I’d be happy with Carsley but can he keep us up. Big job for someone who whilst has a wealth of coaching experience behind him hasn’t been in a job like this. To be honest I’d be happy if he simply kept us up respectably with some improving football. That’s where we are, forget flying up the league
|
|
|
Post by shakermaker on Dec 14, 2023 21:27:15 GMT
Steve Cooper and Michael Carrick didn't have any managerial experience, though, did they? And both took to it like a duck to water. His reputation is clearly high, and even names like Ashley Cole and big egos in the u21 camp are impressed. He's been around the block with hundreds of games in the Prem and international football, even playing at a World Cup - and he seems respected by anyone who has encountered him OK, you've got me with that challenge. Very much agreed. I want Nuno or Corberan first, and Jokanovic second. At the end of the day, they're proven - no matter how good Carsley may be. But I would rather have Carsley than any other Brit.
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:27:35 GMT
|
|
|
Post by smallthorner on Dec 14, 2023 21:27:53 GMT
Fair comment FM. All I know is that it doesn't get me excited. If he turns that rabble into a coherent winning team then he's a magician. My concern is that he's only had a dozen games in the league management cauldron. He will be under pressure straight away and not be able to fanny about with systems and developing 20 year old future superstars who have had their bum wiped for them. All the best Lee. Fair enough - I get it! Everyone is entitled to their own reaction, and it's legitimate when we all care so much about it. I'd be same with Heckingbottom. But Carsley was always one that I would have liked. I think this Nuno link may have done more harm than good because everyone else isn't coming off too well in comparison with the idealised version of what could have been with him (if there's anything in it!) Yes.. if the Nuno rumour is all bollocks then a few people are going to be extremely disappointed. If we assume it is a load of cobblers my own choice would be: JDT Hassy Parker Presumably none of those have been approached so I would then have to say reluctantly but with a massive welcome, SJE.
|
|
|
Post by tommycarlsberg on Dec 14, 2023 21:30:21 GMT
Carsley over Nuno for me all day long. Watch the likes of Tezgel, Sidibe and Junior flourish? Yes please.
We’ve all had a dabble in Football Manager and watched young Emre turn into a monster, I rarely think we will see it happen in real life. I’d start to believe it could with Carsley.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 21:42:40 GMT
Nuno is a very good coach, I don’t care that’s he’s worked with the under 21’s or whatever, Nuno is what the fans wanted Speak for yourself. It's not we all wanted. These players need coaching not managing. I would be happy with Nuno but I'd prefer Carsley.
|
|
|
Post by spitthedog on Dec 14, 2023 21:43:08 GMT
How does Garry Monk still make it into new manager odds?
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:44:06 GMT
|
|
|
Post by shakermaker on Dec 14, 2023 21:44:35 GMT
Carsley over Nuno for me all day long. Watch the likes of Tezgel, Sidibe and Junior flourish? Yes please. We’ve all had a dabble in Football Manager and watched young Emre turn into a monster, I rarely think we will see it happen in real life. I’d start to believe it could with Carsley. Put it this way, I will be disappointed but cautiously optimistic if we didn’t get Nuno but appointed Carsley. I would be disappointed and gutted if we didn’t get Nuno and saw Eustace holding up the scarf instead.
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:44:42 GMT
|
|
|
Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 14, 2023 21:45:16 GMT
Carsley has drifted from 4s too.
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:46:50 GMT
I'd be very 'meh' if Eustace got it after all this
|
|
|
Post by potter25 on Dec 14, 2023 21:47:22 GMT
Looking like Eustace
Odds dropped on BV as well
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 21:47:24 GMT
I'd feel so deflated now if it was Eustace which I know is very unfair.
|
|
|
Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 14, 2023 21:47:57 GMT
Anyone know how many days we went before appointing Rowett/Jones/etc...? Is this current spell short/long/around the same?
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:49:53 GMT
I'd feel so deflated now if it was Eustace which I know is very unfair. Me too. I was feeling really content with the Carsley/Nuno links. I'd feel a bit down if Eustace gets it. But his odds are tumbling for some reason
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 21:50:17 GMT
Eustace would be such a let down. The atmosphere would be like a fart in a bath.
|
|
|
Post by Goonie on Dec 14, 2023 21:50:19 GMT
Carsley over Nuno for me all day long. Watch the likes of Tezgel, Sidibe and Junior flourish? Yes please. We’ve all had a dabble in Football Manager and watched young Emre turn into a monster, I rarely think we will see it happen in real life. I’d start to believe it could with Carsley. That's a very good argument for Carsley 👍
|
|
|
Post by gingerninja on Dec 14, 2023 21:50:40 GMT
I did warn you 😉
|
|
|
Post by wonderwall on Dec 14, 2023 21:50:54 GMT
I'd be very 'meh' if Eustace got it after all this Yeah, would be very beige. What we should expect, let’s be honest.
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 21:51:01 GMT
If it’s Eustace we have to get behind him. He’s a coach and that’s what we want really. Who knows what he will be like. Every single manager has failed at some point somewhere
|
|
|
Post by stokiesteve on Dec 14, 2023 21:51:30 GMT
I don’t know much about Carsley. But reading up on him he seems to have a lot of understanding of the game, tactics and most importantly people. I wouldn’t be too disappointed if he came here it might be a smart move.
My worry is this. He hasn’t experienced the blood and thunder of the Championship. Coaching young men and managing a club fighting for its life in this division are very different things. The pressure will be immense. Arguably, we haven’t seen him under pressure yet so we don’t know how he will react. There simply isn’t the same pressure coaching the U21’s as most see it as a secondary matter. If we win, we will say ‘oh great’. If we lose it’s ‘oh well’.
Nuno will know what to do from day 1.
There’s a reason he may be in the no2 roles.
|
|
|
Post by Goonie on Dec 14, 2023 21:51:56 GMT
Anyone know how many days we went before appointing Rowett/Jones/etc...? Is this current spell short/long/around the same? Feels like lightening compared to the Lambert farrago
|
|