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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 14, 2023 20:06:42 GMT
Well if it is Carsley, he has a nickname already for the boo boys carcrash.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 20:06:48 GMT
I admit I'll be disapponted with Carsley. Don't really understand why he's less of a gamble than Eustace? Nuno, Dick S og JDT for me It does feel like a bigger risk given where we are in the league. It might be but no manager is guaranteed to kick us into gear.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 14, 2023 20:06:51 GMT
Why is he wearing John Terry’s training top ? Because when he got home it was left in his bedroom
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 14, 2023 20:12:06 GMT
Here we go. Civil war on the Oatcake again.
Happy Clappers v The hindsight club re run.
Toss a coin JC. You’re not getting credit for a good call and you’re going to be ridiculed if it comes down wrong. Either of these would be a good call but 50% of posters on here are going to tell you that you got it wrong immediately.
And yet two days ago neither of these were even being put forward. Call heads you lose. Call tails you lose.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 14, 2023 20:15:01 GMT
Here we go. Civil war on the Oatcake again. Happy Clappers v The hindsight club re run. Toss a coin JC. You’re not getting credit for a good call and you’re going to be ridiculed if it comes down wrong. Either of these would be a good call but 50% of posters on here are going to tell you that you got it wrong immediately. And yet two days ago neither of these were even being put forward. Call heads you lose. Call tails you lose. Exactly. I mean it’s not like he’s been getting it constantly wrong for years is it.
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 14, 2023 20:16:25 GMT
Here we go. Civil war on the Oatcake again. Happy Clappers v The hindsight club re run. Toss a coin JC. You’re not getting credit for a good call and you’re going to be ridiculed if it comes down wrong. Either of these would be a good call but 50% of posters on here are going to tell you that you got it wrong immediately. And yet two days ago neither of these were even being put forward. Call heads you lose. Call tails you lose. Exactly. I mean it’s not like he’s been getting it constantly wrong for years is it. Ah. Hindsight club Chairman
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 20:18:13 GMT
Swedish reports seem to suggest another Champ club (presumably us or Swansea) have at least expressed interest in the Swedish guy interesting Sunderland
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Post by ceejays on Dec 14, 2023 20:20:39 GMT
Reported on BBC 5 ? That we’ve had talks with Carsley . Link someone ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 20:21:15 GMT
Exactly. I mean it’s not like he’s been getting it constantly wrong for years is it. Ah. Hindsight club Chairman It's not hindsight, it's fact.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 14, 2023 20:25:32 GMT
Reported on BBC 5 ? That we’ve had talks with Carsley . Link someone ? Please no. Uninspiring...
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 20:26:43 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 20:27:32 GMT
Reported on BBC 5 ? That we’ve had talks with Carsley . Link someone ? Please no. Uninspiring... 🤣🤣
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 14, 2023 20:35:41 GMT
I didn’t see Jon Coates, nor a helicopter, nor a swanky Bentley They're making shit up like usual mate. Bet the FA were pleased as punch lil ol stoke city rock up to poach away their head coach
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 14, 2023 20:38:50 GMT
Swedish reports seem to suggest another Champ club (presumably us or Swansea) have at least expressed interest in the Swedish guy interesting Sunderland Jimmy Thelin is another top manager by the league way. Plays great football, and only lost the Swedish title on goal difference.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 20:46:00 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Quite a long discussion about what a mess we are too
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 14, 2023 20:48:56 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Jesus wept... A bald headed little brummie who's had no experience managing a league club. FFS This will be a nail in the coffin of SCFC. Barrow awaits.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 14, 2023 20:52:11 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Quite a long discussion about what a mess we are too Don't think that's the best sales pitch by Carsley to tell JC his club is a bag of shit.
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Post by lordb on Dec 14, 2023 20:53:12 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Quite a long discussion about what a mess we are too Don't think that's the best sales pitch by Carsley to tell JC his club is a bag of shit. No that's what the BBC we're saying not Carsley
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Post by andystokey on Dec 14, 2023 20:57:54 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Quite a long discussion about what a mess we are too Does that mean JC stayed over at St George's? One of these "sources" is telling porkies. Unless we met him twice.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 14, 2023 21:00:54 GMT
Lee Carsley as done a great job for England under 21s,but club management is different,we took a chance on Micheal ONeil and that failed, Ish he did the first two parts of his job, keeping us up, getting rid of the high earners brilliantly & brought through more young players then we have for decades he failed to progress the club from lower reaches of the division so failed there yes anyway just because he failed that doesn't mean Carsley will be like saying we took a punt in an up & coming manager in Nathan Jones that failed therefore we should never take a punt again e.t.c. We didn't do enough due diligence on Nath though. If we'd dug a bit deeper, we'd have realised much of his success at Luton is based on the foundations put in place by Harford. And that we also did not have the means to bring in the kind of players required to make NJ's diamond work, which he stubbornly refused to deviate from. MON was just ridiculously naive. He was doing all the right things, then one morning woke up from a wet dream about wing backs and it went downhill from there. If he had experience of club management, he might have been more wise to our needs and not insisted on being so stubborn with his tactics. Carsley has very limited club management experience, a brief winning streak at Brentford. He should cut his teeth in League One where he can be allowed to experiment and make mistakes. We need someone more experience and proven.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 21:01:33 GMT
Just basically confirmed he'd been told Carsley had met Stoke YESTERDAY Jesus wept... A bald headed little brummie who's had no experience managing a league club. FFS This will be a nail in the coffin of SCFC. Barrow awaits. Some of our supporters make me cringe.
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Post by lordb on Dec 14, 2023 21:02:31 GMT
Ish he did the first two parts of his job, keeping us up, getting rid of the high earners brilliantly & brought through more young players then we have for decades he failed to progress the club from lower reaches of the division so failed there yes anyway just because he failed that doesn't mean Carsley will be like saying we took a punt in an up & coming manager in Nathan Jones that failed therefore we should never take a punt again e.t.c. We didn't do enough due diligence on Nath though. If we'd dug a bit deeper, we'd have realised much of his success at Luton is based on the foundations put in place by Harford. And that we also did not have the means to bring in the kind of players required to make NJ's diamond work, which he stubbornly refused to deviate from. MON was just ridiculously naive. He was doing all the right things, then one morning woke up from a wet dream about wing backs and it went downhill from there. If he had experience of club management, he might have been more wise to our needs and not insisted on being so stubborn with his tactics. Carsley has very limited club management experience, a brief winning streak at Brentford. He should cut his teeth in League One where he can be allowed to experiment and make mistakes. We need someone more experience and proven. Tbh been thinking Carsley is a good shout for the England job, for Stoke to get him would be a coup Hoping for Nuno mind
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 21:03:28 GMT
Jesus wept... A bald headed little brummie who's had no experience managing a league club. FFS This will be a nail in the coffin of SCFC. Barrow awaits. Some of our supporters make me cringe. Some right embarrassing comments isn't there
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 21:04:59 GMT
Steve Cooper and Michael Carrick didn't have any managerial experience, though, did they?
And both took to it like a duck to water.
His reputation is clearly high, and even names like Ashley Cole and big egos in the u21 camp are impressed.
He's been around the block with hundreds of games in the Prem and international football, even playing at a World Cup - and he seems respected by anyone who has encountered him
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 14, 2023 21:05:50 GMT
Jesus wept... A bald headed little brummie who's had no experience managing a league club. FFS This will be a nail in the coffin of SCFC. Barrow awaits. Some of our supporters make me cringe. Cringe away mate. If you think Carsley is the answer to our problems then so be it.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 21:06:17 GMT
Steve Cooper and Michael Carrick didn't have any managerial experience, though, did they? And both took to it like a duck to water. His reputation is clearly high, and even names like Ashley Cole and big egos in the u21 camp are impressed. He's been around the block with hundreds of games in the Prem and international football, even playing at a World Cup - and he seems respected by anyone who has encountered him Was also at City for a while so he does have some experience at a league club.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 14, 2023 21:08:27 GMT
I think the club would need to structure itself very differently to make it work with Carsely and Nuno. Carsely needs to focus on coaching - all the other crap will need to go to the backroom staff, giving him a good manager role would be a dusaster. I suspect Nuno would prefer to be pulling the strings and have others working under him. If the right people are put in place either can work but get the structure wrong it won't work out for either of them. I feel like we sort of did that in the summer. Did AN really sign all of those players himself? I certainly think there was some face saving "yeah I sign off on all signings" but not sure how true that was with how left field some of them were. To an extent yes but the structure was still based on the god manager model - Neil wanted to be more than a head coach whereas I think Carsely is an out and out head coach and needs some of the responsibilities in Neil's job description shifted elsewhere. The issue with Nuno is the other way round - if anything he will expect to be head honcho and delegate as he sees fit, not play second fiddle to others.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 14, 2023 21:15:05 GMT
Steve Cooper and Michael Carrick didn't have any managerial experience, though, did they? And both took to it like a duck to water. His reputation is clearly high, and even names like Ashley Cole and big egos in the u21 camp are impressed. He's been around the block with hundreds of games in the Prem and international football, even playing at a World Cup - and he seems respected by anyone who has encountered him Fair comment FM. All I know is that it doesn't get me excited. If he turns that rabble into a coherent winning team then he's a magician. My concern is that he's only had a dozen games in the league management cauldron. He will be under pressure straight away and not be able to fanny about with systems and developing 20 year old future superstars who have had their bum wiped for them. All the best Lee.
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 14, 2023 21:16:55 GMT
If it’s Carsley its a joke and the club have learnt fuck all
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 21:17:27 GMT
If it’s Carsley its a joke and the club have learnt fuck all 😴😴
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