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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 18, 2024 14:58:41 GMT
Forest deducted 4 points...... Brentford 26 Everton 25 Luton Town 22 ------------------ Nottm Forest 21 Burnley 17 Sheff Utd 14 I’ve been told that a PL club are in for a massive points deduction next season Please let it be Wolves.. |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Mar 18, 2024 15:07:59 GMT
Chelsea 🤞
I do feel a little bit for Notts f here as two of the years relate to losses in the championship.
Talk about entering the PL with one arm tied behind your back.
They'll appeal, no doubt and get maybe 2 back I would imagine.
Listening to Talksport they say this could drag on post season end.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 18, 2024 15:12:53 GMT
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Post by noustie on Mar 18, 2024 15:15:36 GMT
The league's turning into a mess - Serie A went a similar way when that bubble burst.
It's already quite boring down the bottom but the relegation zone could be decided in the boardroom and courts for the next couple of seasons - what's the point?
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2024 15:21:58 GMT
So they will get 2 of these points back after the appeal then.
Or maybe they will get 4 back like Everton!
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 18, 2024 15:54:45 GMT
Fulham won't be, very well run club, plus they can put their spend down to the new stand, must have cost a fortune to dig into the Thames. The stand costs won't be in the profit and loss it's a stadium improvement on the balance sheet. Edit- In fact the ground isn't in the club accounts so no cost is in the figures below. I didn't realise how bad their financial results have been until I looked just. June 21 Losses 94.352 Million June 22 Losses 57.890 Million Using the calc they have for Forest they're allowed 83 Million losses between 21-23 so they'll need to be posting a hefty turnaround from big losses to a decent profit in the 23 accounts which are due by the end of this month. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 18, 2024 21:15:04 GMT
Immediate compulsory liquidation and expulsion from the planet would be far too lenient , punishment needs to be beyond comprehension |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Mar 20, 2024 13:51:27 GMT
Fulham won't be, very well run club, plus they can put their spend down to the new stand, must have cost a fortune to dig into the Thames. The stand costs won't be in the profit and loss it's a stadium improvement on the balance sheet. Edit- In fact the ground isn't in the club accounts so no cost is in the figures below. I didn't realise how bad their financial results have been until I looked just. June 21 Losses 94.352 Million June 22 Losses 57.890 Million Using the calc they have for Forest they're allowed 83 Million losses between 21-23 so they'll need to be posting a hefty turnaround from big losses to a decent profit in the 23 accounts which are due by the end of this month. If Promotion Bonuses are no longer excludable from PSR/P&S at PL level as the Nottingham Forest Written Reasons seemed to imply (which seems mad if so as they are literally only triggered in the event of Promotion) then Fulham and even Bournemouth move into view. IMO anyway. Fulham first. 2018-19 Pre Tax -£20m Pre Tax PL 2019-20 Pre Tax -£48m Pre TaxPromoted in receipt of Year 1 Parachute Payments. 2020-21-£93m PL but behind closed doors, Covid as we all were. Averaged loss for the 2 years-£70.5m -£57.5m 2021-22 Title winners in receipt of Year 1 Parachute Payments I make that-£148m in Losses including averaging Before Tax before Adjustments in the relevant period up against a Loss Limit after this of £72m and the Promotion Bonuses we have to readd these as we did for Nottingham Forest I'd suggest. Or -£128m plus any figure for last year if we assume they somehow passed to 2021-22. Cat 1 Academy and good Infrastructure Costs to offset somewhat. Bournemouth 2018-19 Pre Tax -£32m PL 2019-20 Pre Tax -£60m PL (Relegated plus initial Covid stuff). 2020-21 Pre Tax £17m Profit Championship (Year 1 Parachute Payments). Covid as we all were. Averaged Loss for the 2 Years-£21.5m 2021-22 Pre Tax -£55.5m Championship Year 2 Like Fulham, a £72m Upper Loss Limit. Challenge is to excluding Promotion Bonuses based on the Nottingham Forest case get down to £72m. Category 2 Academy too, was Category 3 for a while and their Infrastructure isn't exactly wildly expensive. Not like they sell anyone of note either so their position is a bit of a mystery really. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 20, 2024 16:15:31 GMT
Aston Villa will be needing to cook their books tread carefully after posting a £120m loss 22-23 season. Under PSR they can make a rolling loss of £105m over 3 years. Last seasons wage bill alone was £194m up by almost 33% from the previous season. They could well be the next Everton.
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Post by skip on Mar 20, 2024 17:32:43 GMT
Aston Villa will be needing to cook their books tread carefully after posting a £120m loss 22-23 season. Under PSR they can make a rolling loss of £105m over 3 years. Last seasons wage bill alone was £194m up by almost 33% from the previous season. They could well be the next Everton. Doffs cap at your strikethrough deployment. Villa's numbers as outlined above are eye watering. Meanwhile, Man City just keep on getting virtually unbeatable, building on ten years of insane spending levels. |
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Post by SteveWyman on Mar 20, 2024 20:47:52 GMT
That renowned bastion of journalistic integrity "The Sun" is reporting that Man City and Chelsea face potential relegation due to breaking FFP rules. While I fully understand the desire to punish them, unless they are obliged to offload every player they have ever recruited using any kind of impropriety, the following season in the Championship (assuming that is where they end up) would be an absolute farce.
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Mar 20, 2024 22:38:48 GMT
Aston Villa will be needing to cook their books tread carefully after posting a £120m loss 22-23 season. Under PSR they can make a rolling loss of £105m over 3 years. Last seasons wage bill alone was £194m up by almost 33% from the previous season. They could well be the next Everton. I remember their 3 years ending 2019. A concern I have there is that the rules change this summer and though compliance to this year could be a challenge, they will be saved if so from the prospect of a swing from the small Profit in 2021-22 which is their starting point to this year to their £120m loss last year. That would be really interesting to watch. |
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Post by moon on Mar 21, 2024 8:26:59 GMT
That renowned bastion of journalistic integrity "The Sun" is reporting that Man City and Chelsea face potential relegation due to breaking FFP rules. While I fully understand the desire to punish them, unless they are obliged to offload every player they have ever recruited using any kind of impropriety, the following season in the Championship (assuming that is where they end up) would be an absolute farce. Haaland will score 100+ goals in the championship if he stays fit |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 21, 2024 8:35:13 GMT
Take every trophy they’ve won off them in the time period please.
FA Cup winners 😎
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Post by skip on Mar 21, 2024 9:17:06 GMT
That renowned bastion of journalistic integrity "The Sun" is reporting that Man City and Chelsea face potential relegation due to breaking FFP rules. While I fully understand the desire to punish them, unless they are obliged to offload every player they have ever recruited using any kind of impropriety, the following season in the Championship (assuming that is where they end up) would be an absolute farce. So the Championship has to suffer playing against a virtually unbeatable team. Great. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 21, 2024 10:18:17 GMT
That renowned bastion of journalistic integrity "The Sun" is reporting that Man City and Chelsea face potential relegation due to breaking FFP rules. While I fully understand the desire to punish them, unless they are obliged to offload every player they have ever recruited using any kind of impropriety, the following season in the Championship (assuming that is where they end up) would be an absolute farce. So the Championship has to suffer playing against a virtually unbeatable team. Great. If the rule breaking is that bad they should have to do a rangers and go right to the bottom of the pile. Forced to sell all their players and start from the beginning. And no cheating this time you cheating twats. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 7, 2024 17:00:51 GMT
Due to hear the outcome of their second case tomorrow or Tuesday.
Given Luton refuse to be flushed, you'd imagine Everton will appeal it again.
The Premier League really need to get both appeals heard and dealt with ASAP.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 17:29:27 GMT
Chelsea 🤞 I do feel a little bit for Notts f here as two of the years relate to losses in the championship. Talk about entering the PL with one arm tied behind your back. They'll appeal, no doubt and get maybe 2 back I would imagine. Listening to Talksport they say this could drag on post season end. Does that mean they got promoted by breaking financial rules? The money they've raked in since promotion is worth a deduction |
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Post by RF10 on Apr 7, 2024 17:37:31 GMT
Due to hear the outcome of their second case tomorrow or Tuesday. Given Luton refuse to be flushed, you'd imagine Everton will appeal it again. The Premier League really need to get both appeals heard and dealt with ASAP. Based on the timeline, I believe the verdict gets given AFTER the season is over. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 7, 2024 17:41:30 GMT
Due to hear the outcome of their second case tomorrow or Tuesday. Given Luton refuse to be flushed, you'd imagine Everton will appeal it again. The Premier League really need to get both appeals heard and dealt with ASAP. Based on the timeline, I believe the verdict gets given AFTER the season is over. Yep, I think based on the latest it can be resolved, I think it's the week after the Premier League season ends. On one hand, I think they might be inclined to resolve it before then, but on the other hand, you wouldn't be surprised to see it linger with the Premier League hoping it pretty much resolves itself within the season and Luton falling away slightly. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 7, 2024 19:28:21 GMT
I know its not part of the potential punishment but i won't be happy until we get the fa cup off those cheating manc twats.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 19:52:27 GMT
I know its not part of the potential punishment but i won't be happy until we get the fa cup off those cheating manc twats. Would that actually happen? Will take it |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Apr 7, 2024 20:05:20 GMT
I know its not part of the potential punishment but i won't be happy until we get the fa cup off those cheating manc twats. Would that actually happen? Will take it We are talking about breaching Premier League rules. The Premier League don’t govern the FA Cup. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 20:08:12 GMT
Would that actually happen? Will take it We are talking about breaching Premier League rules. The Premier League don’t govern the FA Cup. Couldn't they put a word in ? They must know someone |
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Post by northernstokie on Apr 8, 2024 13:01:36 GMT
Docked another 2 points
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Post by bolders on Apr 8, 2024 13:04:46 GMT
Wow massive punishment there 🤦🏼♂️ |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 8, 2024 13:05:29 GMT
Or put another way, un punished.. |
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Post by northernstokie on Apr 8, 2024 13:08:51 GMT
Wow massive punishment there 🤦🏼♂️ Yeah sky sports say significant breach and only 2 points |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 8, 2024 13:10:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2024 13:13:44 GMT
Amazing how they can manage to get through Everton and Forest so quickly, yet are stalling on Man City.
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