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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2023 17:03:24 GMT
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Post by chad on Oct 9, 2023 17:07:34 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 9, 2023 17:10:18 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet It’ll all come back to haunt them. But hey if it gains votes who cares
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 9, 2023 17:11:39 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet I wouldn’t worry Starmer’s not going to let a spot of democracy get in the way of his power grab
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 9, 2023 18:10:46 GMT
Does it matter? If Starmer ignores it, what will happen? Just imagine the extraordinary cost of buying them back. They should have never been sold in the first place. The idea of selling UK public services to foreign governments is bonkers.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 9, 2023 18:12:12 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 9, 2023 18:28:22 GMT
Wind and piss is actually the Conservative wngery policy for the next four years. Although they're thinking about scaling back on the 'wind' part.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2023 18:48:22 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation?
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 9, 2023 18:51:28 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? Do you? If so then I definitely don't.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2023 18:53:08 GMT
Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? Do you? If so then I definitely don't. WUM alert....
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Post by chad on Oct 9, 2023 18:59:13 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? I remember British Rail: Electricity Boards and Water Boards. So no I don’t support Nationalisation
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 9, 2023 19:02:35 GMT
Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? I remember British Rail: Electricity Boards and Water Boards. So no I don’t support Nationalisation There are pros and cons to support either, personally I couldn't give a toss either way but if Huddy is in favour of it then surely it must be a bad thing?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 9, 2023 19:26:51 GMT
Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? I remember British Rail: Electricity Boards and Water Boards. So no I don’t support Nationalisation Fair enough. You're wrong mind.
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 9, 2023 20:02:50 GMT
I say this with embarrassment but other than 2016 I've voted Tory my whole life, in 16 i went with Lib Dems and voted tory in 19 as I couldn't stand Corbyn
That said I detest this government and all it stands for, the lies, the sleaze and so on
I know Labour aren't perfect but they will get my vote and hope they romp home
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Post by knype on Oct 9, 2023 20:04:56 GMT
All of my family voted Labour as it used to be the working man's party, sadly that's no longer the case, they have no-one currently within the party to get behind, neither have any of the other useless parties.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 9, 2023 21:01:31 GMT
Amazing how much interest there is in this given that "they're all the same" 😃
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Post by Veritas on Oct 9, 2023 21:07:07 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet Conference votes are not binding on party policy.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 9, 2023 21:13:18 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet Conference votes are not binding on party policy. No they aren't. They're advisory. The leadership have already said they'll ignore it. Having shit pumped into the sea and executives receiving huge bonuses while services stagnate is clearly in the public interest.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 9, 2023 21:13:27 GMT
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Post by gawa on Oct 9, 2023 21:19:44 GMT
All of my family voted Labour as it used to be the working man's party, sadly that's no longer the case, they have no-one currently within the party to get behind, neither have any of the other useless parties. I think Andy Burnham would have appealed to a wider group of people as leader. He's the Mayor of Manchester and regularly sticking up for the Mancunians. Pretty sure he challenged Boris multiple times publicly on the draconian lockdowns he was enforcing on Manchester too.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 9, 2023 21:20:09 GMT
Definitely not a fan of nationalisation….
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 9, 2023 21:22:38 GMT
More unravelling of Brexit. Sensible. Whoever gets in next year will have to do that. At least Labour is being upfront about it, unlike Sunak's govt, although to be fair to him, it's a lot easier to talk openly about the need to improve our relationship with our most important trading partner when your Party isn't full of people harking back to the 1950s and your govt isn't told what to do by non-dom newspaper owners.
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Post by chad on Oct 9, 2023 21:23:28 GMT
All of my family voted Labour as it used to be the working man's party, sadly that's no longer the case, they have no-one currently within the party to get behind, neither have any of the other useless parties. Voted labour until the winter of discontent when the unions were wrecking the country and then voted Tory Continued to vote Tory until Tony Blair came along and put Labour back into the centre ground. Switched back to Tory when Corbyn came in and put Labour back twenty years. Next time who knows. The Tories are a mess and I wouldn’t trust Starmer and Rayner God politics in this country are a mess
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 9, 2023 22:27:29 GMT
If the Rwanda plan is declared legal by the high court (and I think it will be) expect a spring election. Throughout winter fewer boats arrive anyway. BUT they'll claim it as a success for the policy and go to the election emboldened. Given the last few years I can't see it even then Assume it will be November or December May election would be better though May is sort of traditional.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 9, 2023 23:18:55 GMT
All of my family voted Labour as it used to be the working man's party, sadly that's no longer the case, they have no-one currently within the party to get behind, neither have any of the other useless parties. Voted labour until the winter of discontent when the unions were wrecking the country and then voted Tory Continued to vote Tory until Tony Blair came along and put Labour back into the centre ground. Switched back to Tory when Corbyn came in and put Labour back twenty years. Next time who knows. The Tories are a mess and I wouldn’t trust Starmer and Rayner God politics in this country are a mess Glad you’re out of the coma you were in from 2010-15 and feeling much better fella…..
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 10, 2023 0:58:12 GMT
Here we go. Unions deciding policy and they’re not even in yet If you think that you must be deluded tthe union put the motion the members supported it it becomes policy its called democracy and listening to the members something the Tories know nothing about
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Post by lordb on Oct 10, 2023 6:59:51 GMT
Not many unions there mate. Do you not support renationalisation? Do you? If so then I definitely don't. Including the water industry? Surely only those making money out of it, not us, could make a case for keeping that in private hands?
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Post by lordb on Oct 10, 2023 7:02:16 GMT
Given the last few years I can't see it even then Assume it will be November or December May election would be better though May is sort of traditional. It is if you fancy chances of winning Just assume Tory government know they are out so will take every month they can to get them and theirs more govt contracts Fill their boots while they can
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 10, 2023 7:24:01 GMT
I remember British Rail: Electricity Boards and Water Boards. So no I don’t support Nationalisation Fair enough. You're wrong mind. I actually think you're both wrong. The past has proved nationalisation doesn't work. And the present proves the private sector are too interested in pandering to share holders and profits and let standards drop. What we really need is a cross party consensus to rip up the rules and create an independently monitored system run by the private sector where there is constant monitoring and scrutiny and whereby they have to operate within certain criteria. Yes it'll make it a less attractive investment proposition. But it will be a more stable one that pension funds would invest in for the stability element it could provide to a portfolio. I mean everyone will always need water and energy right? Critical items like this are too important to be used as political footballs and its already been proven that the either or of private or national simply doesn't work. Same goes for education and the NHS if you ask me. Changing direction at every election cycle means we never actually give anything the time required to actually make it work. My opinion anyway.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 10, 2023 7:44:03 GMT
Fair enough. You're wrong mind. I actually think you're both wrong. The past has proved nationalisation doesn't work. And the present proves the private sector are too interested in pandering to share holders and profits and let standards drop. What we really need is a cross party consensus to rip up the rules and create an independently monitored system run by the private sector where there is constant monitoring and scrutiny and whereby they have to operate within certain criteria. Yes it'll make it a less attractive investment proposition. But it will be a more stable one that pension funds would invest in for the stability element it could provide to a portfolio. I mean everyone will always need water and energy right? Critical items like this are too important to be used as political footballs and its already been proven that the either or of private or national simply doesn't work. Same goes for education and the NHS if you ask me. Changing direction at every election cycle means we never actually give anything the time required to actually make it work. My opinion anyway. All utilities and infrastructure should be in public ownership, Rail Road and all utilities. There is absolutely no evidence that privitisation has succeeded. We've had enough of private companies siphoning off profits and then turning to the tax payer for bailouts.
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