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Post by robbieabdoulaye on Sept 24, 2023 12:54:08 GMT
What have you seen from Sheffield Wednesday so far to suggest they’ll finish above us? Huddersfield getting a new manager could change them Why are we the only club that this sentence doesn’t apply to!!!!??? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 24, 2023 12:54:18 GMT
I'll give you Rotherham for sure, the others, especially Sheff Wed and QPR not so sure. What have you seen from Sheffield Wednesday so far to suggest they’ll finish above us? Nothing. I'm basing my assumption purely on the fact that they're a big club. With the exception of Rotherham, there are no Wigans, Plymouths, etc this season. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 24, 2023 12:55:12 GMT
Bristol City, Southampton, Leicester, Sunderland, Leeds...could easily be bottom of the table after those.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 12:55:40 GMT
What have you seen from Sheffield Wednesday so far to suggest they’ll finish above us? Nothing. I'm basing my assumption purely on the fact that they're a big club. With the exception of Rotherham, there are no Wigans, Plymouths, etc this season. Plymouth look a decent side, they’ll be fine. Weds being a ‘big club’ doesn’t count for a lot. |
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2023 12:56:20 GMT
Beaten by a much better team today. Relegation is not out of the question if we carry on like this. Who are the obvious 'smaller' teams worse than we are? Rotherham, Huddersfield, QPR, Sheff Wed. If we end up in a relegation scrap with those 4, I don’t fancy us to battle it out successfully. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 12:56:28 GMT
Huddersfield getting a new manager could change them It could but they look a mess and lacking in quality. Their problems look like they run deeper than that. well we didn’t beat them so they’re not that bad |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 12:57:13 GMT
Rotherham, Huddersfield, QPR, Sheff Wed. If we end up in a relegation scrap with those 4, I don’t fancy us to battle it out successfully. We’ll finish above them all. |
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Post by superjw on Sept 24, 2023 12:57:28 GMT
We aren’t set up for a relegation battle, if we end up there we won’t get out of it.
Everything has to be done to stop the rot as soon as possible
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 12:57:35 GMT
It could but they look a mess and lacking in quality. Their problems look like they run deeper than that. well we didn’t beat them so they’re not that bad I’m not sure that’s how it works. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 24, 2023 12:58:01 GMT
That was a relegation performance make no mistake about it…
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 12:59:26 GMT
well we didn’t beat them so they’re not that bad I’m not sure that’s how it works. it shows we’re the same mess you’re saying they’re in |
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Post by stokiespark on Sept 24, 2023 13:02:28 GMT
The rebuild was needed because of how few players we had contracted to the club. However that in itself is shambolic running of a football club. Then the recruitment itself, i was always worried to many of these signings were plucked out of a hat with absolutely no thought. No balance to the squad whatsoever, overloaded in some areas and criminally short in others.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 24, 2023 13:02:46 GMT
Feels about right as it stands this season too, after all we drew with Huddersfield last night and have lost to all of those above us with the exception of Watford. I was optimistic before the season of finishing top half but I think based on the performances so far we'll be in the bottom quarter of the division - anywhere between 18th-24th. Just hope we can see enough improvements on the pitch throughout a long season to pick up enough points. We're far too easy to score against and beat. I'm thinking somewhere between 8th and 16th myself. Not bad enough to go down or good enough to go up. Plus now he has his own players in I imagine we should climb that overall table now too as alot of that is based on last season. Difficult month ahead though but now the pressures on hopefully Alex gets something out of them. Appreciate this was written before todays game against Hull but I think you are being very generous. We’re on the verge of getting into a scrap, for certain both the managers and the players will now be feeling the pressure, and home games will be harder and harder if the crowd loses interest or turns. The noose is beginning to tighten, we are going to need the new manager bounce if we keep performing like we did today, like we did against Preston, and even like we did against Watford which was an awful game I thought we were fortunate to win. You can throw the Ipswich game in there too |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:04:25 GMT
In a league of averageness it’s very worrying!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 24, 2023 13:05:25 GMT
Nothing. I'm basing my assumption purely on the fact that they're a big club. With the exception of Rotherham, there are no Wigans, Plymouths, etc this season. Plymouth look a decent side, they’ll be fine. Weds being a ‘big club’ doesn’t count for a lot. Not always, I agree, but it helps if you're trying to stay up and the teams you're scrapping with don't have big stadia, big crowds, some history and some pulling power. I'd much rather be in a relegation scrap with Rotherham, Wigan and Barnsley than Sheff Wed, Middlesbrough and Coventry for example. |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2023 13:05:33 GMT
It's coming. Might not be this season, might not be next, but I'm now pretty convinced that sooner or later it's the way we'll be exiting this division.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:06:09 GMT
Huddersfield getting a new manager could change them It could but they look a mess and lacking in quality. Their problems look like they run deeper than that. If Huddersfield look a mess what was that today |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 13:11:57 GMT
It could but they look a mess and lacking in quality. Their problems look like they run deeper than that. If Huddersfield look a mess what was that today I think more than one team can look a mess? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 13:13:14 GMT
Plymouth look a decent side, they’ll be fine. Weds being a ‘big club’ doesn’t count for a lot. Not always, I agree, but it helps if you're trying to stay up and the teams you're scrapping with don't have big stadia, big crowds, some history and some pulling power. I'd much rather be in a relegation scrap with Rotherham, Wigan and Barnsley than Sheff Wed, Middlesbrough and Coventry for example. Really think you’re overstating Weds. They get big crowds but they’re a yo-yo club between this division and L1. |
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Post by franklin on Sept 24, 2023 13:14:04 GMT
At the moment no there aren't.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 13:14:43 GMT
I’m not sure that’s how it works. it shows we’re the same mess you’re saying they’re in I don’t think it does. We’re a mess but I think we’re fixable even without changing the manager. I don’t think they are. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2023 13:15:03 GMT
At least we're a massive 2 points clear of Rotherham
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 13:15:39 GMT
it shows we’re the same mess you’re saying they’re in I don’t think it does. We’re a mess but I think we’re fixable even without changing the manager. I don’t think they are. we won’t get any better with this manager that’s clear , the excuses need to stop |
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Post by stokiespark on Sept 24, 2023 13:21:18 GMT
How many times has Neil made a sub before halftime this season? People may say he’s reacting but for me he is continually getting things wrong.
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:04 GMT
It's coming. Might not be this season, might not be next, but I'm now pretty convinced that sooner or later it's the way we'll be exiting this division. I’ve been saying this for ages. It would just be better for all concerned if we do it now and start the long climb back. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:26:13 GMT
If Huddersfield look a mess what was that today I think more than one team can look a mess? Agreed |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2023 13:31:40 GMT
How many times has Neil made a sub before halftime this season? People may say he’s reacting but for me he is continually getting things wrong. Yeah I was thinking about this. How often, generally, do you see an unenforced first half sub? One game in 30 maybe? 50? We're on one in four so far this season. Not a great sign |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 24, 2023 13:32:51 GMT
It's coming. Might not be this season, might not be next, but I'm now pretty convinced that sooner or later it's the way we'll be exiting this division. Agree, our only way out of this league will be down. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 13:38:27 GMT
At this moment the teams below us are worse, but that can change, once the October fixtures are over.
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Post by Gawa on Sept 24, 2023 14:09:53 GMT
I'm thinking somewhere between 8th and 16th myself. Not bad enough to go down or good enough to go up. Plus now he has his own players in I imagine we should climb that overall table now too as alot of that is based on last season. Difficult month ahead though but now the pressures on hopefully Alex gets something out of them. Appreciate this was written before todays game against Hull but I think you are being very generous. We’re on the verge of getting into a scrap, for certain both the managers and the players will now be feeling the pressure, and home games will be harder and harder if the crowd loses interest or turns. The noose is beginning to tighten, we are going to need the new manager bounce if we keep performing like we did today, like we did against Preston, and even like we did against Watford which was an awful game I thought we were fortunate to win. You can throw the Ipswich game in there too Was just trying to be positive ahead of an important game, truth be told I've never had much confidence in Alex Neil. But considering him and his pals have been able to strip the club from top to bottom with wholesale changes on and off the pitch; I keep trying to give the benefit of the doubt as those in the background must see something to give him so much freedom and control. Sense he's getting into borrowed time now though and urgently needs results so still slightly hopeful it all just clicks. Good to see Vidigal back too who provides a bit of inspiration and hope. |
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