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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2024 14:48:48 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season.
On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games.
This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games.
We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998.
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 11, 2024 14:51:00 GMT
Nowhere near, we are the shittest team in this league by a country mile. No leadership, no structure, no physicality and zero confidence. It’s a case study in how to completely mismanage a positive situation into an absolute horror show. Added to which we’ve actually acquired some decent players who could do well in a better set up, well led team. Vultures will be circling for them end of season, leaving us with utter shit we’ve also acquired on long contracts who are as suited to league 1 as I am. We have some individually talented footballers - Burger, Bae, Junior but the squad is incredibly unbalanced with gaping holes all over the defence. Overall the squad is a bunch of misfits with key members, our marquee goalscoring signing, having had a fall out. Given the financial backing, we shouldn’t be remotely close to this situation. The fact that we have, shows complete mismanagement of the club from top to bottom. Heads - starting with Martins and Jared’s need to roll NOW. They should have been gone by the end of the Jan window when they didn’t get a LB or CB. Lose against QPR and Schumacher should follow them as something has obviously gone very wrong in the dressing room due to poor management. Hand over to Gallagher. If we want a real manager with experience of success of managing pampered, overpaid pansies and the egos of players in our squad then get in any of Pulis, Big Sam or Steve Cooper. |
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Post by greenman on Feb 11, 2024 14:52:44 GMT
There are but not in this division.
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Post by datguy on Feb 11, 2024 14:55:14 GMT
At the moment, no.
But the good thing about this league is that we are simply shitter than the other shitters. No one is particularly good, especially at the bottom.
So usually a bit of common sense, playing your best players in their best positions, and not throwing your better players under the bus after one poor result at Sunderland leading to a clear divide between players and coach puts you in good stead to beat the drop.
Does Schumacher have that in him? We'll see. But I'm nervous.
QPR will be huge. Absolutely huge. If we lose at home in similar fashion to yesterday it will get messy. After the full time boos yesterday I can imagine Schumacher, Ricky Martin and John are getting twitchy.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 11, 2024 14:58:41 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. This squad reminds me a lot of that one. A spineless bunch of misfits thrown together randomly, the team sheet changing every week as the manager flails around in desperation. |
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 11, 2024 15:02:14 GMT
I dont think there is, in fact I think Rotherham would beat us.
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 11, 2024 15:04:45 GMT
We couldn't beat an egg at the moment.
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2024 15:18:33 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. This squad reminds me a lot of that one. A spineless bunch of misfits thrown together randomly, the team sheet changing every week as the manager flails around in desperation. Yes and the feeling of total desperation with each random no-mark that gets thrown on to the pile. I reckon there’s still time for a free agent from Jared’s database to be chucked in for a crunch relegation battle, David Xausa-style. |
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Post by tejstokie on Feb 11, 2024 17:27:19 GMT
Current form I think we're top of the three going down. Still time to change that but we look dire at the moment.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 11, 2024 17:34:24 GMT
I still think we’ll scrape survival……….and beat QPR on Weds
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Post by tejstokie on Feb 11, 2024 17:38:05 GMT
I still think we’ll scrape survival……….and beat QPR on Weds Let's hope. Massive match for us. |
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Post by sticky on Feb 11, 2024 17:39:23 GMT
We’re evens to beat qpr. Never quite understand why our odds are so short compared to other teams in the mix around us. We’ve been shocking at home for ages but the odds for some reason are always short. Hopefully the bookies have it right and we get a result
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 11, 2024 17:43:36 GMT
I still think we’ll scrape survival……….and beat QPR on Weds Yes. I'm thinking the same. Scrappy win and a couple of points above the bottom three season end. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 11, 2024 17:52:39 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. Jaysus. I didn't think it was that bad😕 |
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Post by canadastk on Feb 12, 2024 3:19:06 GMT
Just did a review of the past 10 Championship Seasons. Over those 10 seasons 46 points was the average for safety. 43 points got you relegated.
We are currently at 32 points with 15 games to play. Very concerning to expect us to find 14 points in 15 games. Of those 15 a big match on Wednesday and therefore a must win.
We have to get points at these matches - QPR - CAR - HUD - SWA - SHW - BRI - PLY. Maybe we have a purple patch but having followed Stoke these past 8 seasons they don't last long.
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Post by borat on Feb 12, 2024 4:36:04 GMT
Rotherham, Sheffield Wednesday and QPR will go down, we'll finish 20th 😭
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Post by independent on Feb 12, 2024 12:43:49 GMT
It's up to ourselves. Jon Walters is right. Unite or Die.
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Post by Ron on Feb 12, 2024 12:44:37 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. and then we had two genuine players of quality- Thorne n kav |
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 12, 2024 13:15:16 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. and then we had two genuine players of quality- Thorne n kav Didn't we have Keen and Sigurdsson as well? There was a core of good players in that squad. Just lots of bad ones as well. Tbh I'm not sure this squad is any better than that one. |
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Post by onionman on Feb 12, 2024 13:17:45 GMT
Always useful to compare how we were doing at this point in the memorable 1997-98 season. On this date in 1998, we were 20th, on 33 points from 30 games. This time around we are 20th, on 32 points from 31 games. We are even more screwed now than we were in 1998. and then we had two genuine players of quality- Thorne n kav Yes, although Thorne was in terrible form during the relegation season. Don't think there's too much difference between the two teams to be honest. The whole atmosphere surrounding the club smells the same too. |
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Post by Ron on Feb 12, 2024 17:28:41 GMT
and then we had two genuine players of quality- Thorne n kav Didn't we have Keen and Sigurdsson as well? There was a core of good players in that squad. Just lots of bad ones as well. Tbh I'm not sure this squad is any better than that one. keen didn’t play much that season if I recall. We defo had sigurdsson. We had some absolute dross though didn’t we. Xausa was a bury away desperate throw of the dice… remember the fat fullback sobiech too. Danny Tiatto wasn’t bad if I recall. Bryan small, Steven tweed, Paul Stewart, Paul holsgrove , town mckinlay and his red card…. The list of players we went thru that season is endless. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 17, 2024 17:02:25 GMT
As you were now with QPR winning today, gap is back to what it was.
Sheffield Wednesday closing in as well, though keeps Millwall, Huddersfield, Plymouth and Swansea close.
I think we'll drop personally, we look terrible at both ends of the pitch, as I said back in mid-September.
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Post by scarlet on Feb 17, 2024 17:45:05 GMT
I do think there are three teams worse than us on paper. What worries me though is we don’t have a consistently steady centre back and four of our most creative players ( in theory at least) are in the bomb squad/naughty step.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Mar 30, 2024 18:40:04 GMT
Ok it didn't date well. Im not one to ask that threads to be put in in thew shitbin, but I think ones time is over. Really? |
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Post by Son of Sausage on Apr 1, 2024 11:06:09 GMT
Would a win today make us potentially safe, obviously not mathematically but looking at previous seasons, we're around the boundary.
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Post by Middle White Stripe on Apr 1, 2024 11:06:33 GMT
No
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Post by lordb on Apr 1, 2024 11:07:09 GMT
Not yet no
Odds are in our favour atm
Edit:
Sorry just re read the op
Are we safe with a win today?
47 points
possibly but suspect it will be couple more points than that
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Post by stokefc on Apr 1, 2024 11:08:17 GMT
2-1 get in  |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 1, 2024 11:38:47 GMT
2-1 get in This could end up a real goal fest. |
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Post by pmjh on Apr 1, 2024 11:51:40 GMT
Not yet no Odds are in our favour atm Edit: Sorry just re read the op Are we safe with a win today? 47 points possibly but suspect it will be couple more points than that Depends on the other results today too. If we win and Sheff Wed and/or Brum lose we would be 8 pts clear with 6 games to play. Pretty much game over. |
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