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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 17, 2024 14:04:04 GMT
If our lad goes for a penny less than what Liam Delap went for then i think im done with this club
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 17, 2024 14:04:28 GMT
If he has a brain, he stays for 1 more season then can go for 20mil plus at the end of the season to the premier league. What's stopping him going to Feyenoord for a year, getting CL experience, and then going to PL if he's good enough? I'm not sure why he should stay at Stoke? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2024 14:10:31 GMT
It's the sort of deal that would have a large sell on clause attached if he went for that figure.
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Post by DC1863 on Jul 17, 2024 14:12:02 GMT
Absolutely no chance we will sell for less than £10m surely, which is over 11m euros.
Would they be willing to smash their transfer record considerably for a lad plying his trade near the bottom of the Championship? Seems unlikely.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 17, 2024 14:17:21 GMT
If he has a brain, he stays for 1 more season then can go for 20mil plus at the end of the season to the premier league. Is he thick if he leaves? He could increase wages, get CL football under his belt, potentially win a league or cup and STILL secure a big money move to an elite league next year. We need to understand the level we are operating at people. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 17, 2024 14:21:03 GMT
Or he can play in the champions league, double his wages and win Dutch trophies in a competitive league …..then one year later get his ultimate dream move Feyenoord Champions league campaign is getting pumped a few times in the group then maybe playing europa if your lucky. He's going be on the Radar of top prem team no doubt, a few seasons in the champ never did Eze, Bowen or Watkins any harm, young players sometimes guilty of rushing their careers. Would hate if Jun ho made the move and it took his career off track, it's inevitable that we lose him at some point but can't help but think Feyenoord wouldn't be a great move for him, They've just changed their manager after Slot went to Liverpool, there best player last year has just gone to Brighton after he returned to castle after his loan. Think it may hinder his progress more than help him Realistically it would do him no harm going there, more likely he would raise his value with European competition experience. You could look at it as a team that might flop in the CL but could still do well in the Europa league, either way probably better than playing Oxford and Plymouth away ( no offence intended to these clubs whatsoever) |
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Post by eriksson74 on Jul 17, 2024 14:26:55 GMT
It was inevitable that Junho would go at some point, I honestly don't think he goes until we have another season from him at least.
He's young, had a big move and just about settled in a new country, lanuage and culture and flourishing. I know he has plans, but they tend to be respectful and loyal as a nation and would expect he stays another season at least, as his game will continue to develop.
What we should do, if not in already given how well he's come on is renew contract, add a bit more to pay, increase length, but stick in a release clause at significant level.
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Post by mcw on Jul 17, 2024 14:27:50 GMT
Just so go damn annoying and shows that we have diminished to being considered a club that the vultures can circle around when anyone shows an inkling of talent. I hope he stays, he was a bright spot last season even though he didn't start to really make an impact until the last couple of months. If Million had arrived half a season earlier then we could be sat here with the exact same thing happening around him.
Imagine being Schumacher, you are planning around million one side, Bae the other and then suddenly you are having to second guess if Bae is going to be here come the beginning of the season. Personally I think he would be better served proving himself for another season with us and then seeing what his options are. Whatever happens I hope he is either sold quickly so we can reinvest the funds or gets a new contract signed so that we can plan one way or the other...
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 17, 2024 14:28:43 GMT
Feyenoord Champions league campaign is getting pumped a few times in the group then maybe playing europa if your lucky. He's going be on the Radar of top prem team no doubt, a few seasons in the champ never did Eze, Bowen or Watkins any harm, young players sometimes guilty of rushing their careers. Would hate if Jun ho made the move and it took his career off track, it's inevitable that we lose him at some point but can't help but think Feyenoord wouldn't be a great move for him, They've just changed their manager after Slot went to Liverpool, there best player last year has just gone to Brighton after he returned to castle after his loan. Think it may hinder his progress more than help him Realistically it would do him no harm going there, more likely he would raise his value with European competition experience. You could look at it as a team that might flop in the CL but could still do well in the Europa league, either way probably better than playing Oxford and Plymouth away ( no offence intended to these clubs whatsoever) You can say about Plymouth and Oxford, but for 90% of the season he's play uncompetitive fixtures against Go ahead eagles and Fortuna Sittard? If he ends up not playing as much as he'd like or he's only used in the games against league fillers like the clubs i just mentioned, He essentially takes a real big step back from playing in the prem, If he continued playing how he's playing here he will be a prem player by Jan. That being said we know his ability, and he has every chance of succeeding, ill wish him the best regardless, got the world at his feet |
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Post by wuzza on Jul 17, 2024 14:31:37 GMT
Dutch clubs aren’t big spenders.
All SCFC can do , if the lad wants to go , is to take the cash on offer and tie in the biggest sell on clause they can.
Whatever happens it needs to happen sooner rather than later.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2024 14:31:41 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2024 14:33:52 GMT
Still doesn't really makes sense, seems to suggest we'd be happy with that.. which I'm damn sure we aren't.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 17, 2024 14:36:54 GMT
Absolutely no chance we will sell for less than £10m surely, which is over 11m euros. Would they be willing to smash their transfer record considerably for a lad plying his trade near the bottom of the Championship? Seems unlikely. Don't think we are in a position this negotiate so aggressively with the price for a foreign player with interest from a foreign club, one which is far bigger than us. Most likely we have made Bae certain promises to fend off interest from bigger clubs when we signed him. If the player is interested, then it will be more significant in any deal than the fee. If it happens we need to make sure a significant sell on is incorporated. |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 17, 2024 14:37:36 GMT
9 Million Euros in these days is absolute piffle. Yes I would expect Bae to go at some point certainly, but THAT much? Unless Stoke City are looking for a bidding war on a player who will be an absolute asset this season....Great thinking!  |
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Post by st3mark on Jul 17, 2024 14:38:28 GMT
He'd get to the Premier league quicker staying here.
Bar a handful of games a season in their league and the games in Europe there's not much competition to push him on and improve him.
Could have a negative impact on him in footballing terms just to hear the champions league music 8 times a year.
If he desperately wants to go then he can go. Walters and the crew must drive a hard bargain though.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 17, 2024 14:39:27 GMT
I'd want more than the figures quoted for Burger and Million, nevermind Bae.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 17, 2024 14:39:35 GMT
Realistically it would do him no harm going there, more likely he would raise his value with European competition experience. You could look at it as a team that might flop in the CL but could still do well in the Europa league, either way probably better than playing Oxford and Plymouth away ( no offence intended to these clubs whatsoever) You can say about Plymouth and Oxford, but for 90% of the season he's play uncompetitive fixtures against Go ahead eagles and Fortuna Sittard? If he ends up not playing as much as he'd like or he's only used in the games against league fillers like the clubs i just mentioned, He essentially takes a real big step back from playing in the prem, If he continued playing how he's playing here he will be a prem player by Jan. That being said we know his ability, and he has every chance of succeeding, ill wish him the best regardless, got the world at his feet It will be hugely disappointing to lose him, I genuinely think he could be our record sale with the way he's progressing. I don't see a move to the eredivise being worse than what he's currently got, he's then got the added bonus of European football. The majority of it will come down to what Bae wants, not what we want. |
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 17, 2024 14:41:16 GMT
He looks to have settled well and looks really popular with the rest of the group. His first season would have been the most difficult, this one should see him step up big time 👍
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Post by wuzza on Jul 17, 2024 14:43:00 GMT
9 Million Euros in these days is absolute piffle. Yes I would expect Bae to go at some point certainly, but THAT much? Unless Stoke City are looking for a bidding war on a player who will be an absolute asset this season....Great thinking! If that’s what’s on offer and the player wants to go our position is very weak. Best case scenario would be that it prompts much higher bids from a PL side who might loan him back for the season. Years of under performance has consequences for any club. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 17, 2024 14:45:26 GMT
As gutting as this would be, it's a reflection of where we are now - we're no longer one of the big boys.
Typical, in the 'its the hope that kills you' sense, as it all looks to be coming together, full of hope for the new season, and than bang! Our brightest light gone...
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2024 14:51:08 GMT
Denial is always the most difficult stage of grief, imo.
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Post by monsoonmoon on Jul 17, 2024 14:51:32 GMT
Worth remembering that Bae reportedly turned down options in Italy to come here. Hopefully he recognises the benefits to his career and development that we’ve helped with, and that encourages him to stay put.
Hope the club are preparing an offer bump to his wages as well!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 17, 2024 14:59:08 GMT
Why would it start there? You start at 100m and work down.  |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 17, 2024 15:01:24 GMT
He's got 3 years left on his contract so unless the offer is too good to turn down, we say no and he stays. I don't think he's the type to down tools and we could up his wages, tell him he can go next year if we get an offer of whatever we think our minimum would be, and the onus will be on him to perform. Feyenoord can't pay us what we could realistically accept surely? And I speak as someone whose Mum came from Rotterdam and I have a soft spot for the club.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 17, 2024 15:15:35 GMT
You can say about Plymouth and Oxford, but for 90% of the season he's play uncompetitive fixtures against Go ahead eagles and Fortuna Sittard? If he ends up not playing as much as he'd like or he's only used in the games against league fillers like the clubs i just mentioned, He essentially takes a real big step back from playing in the prem, If he continued playing how he's playing here he will be a prem player by Jan. That being said we know his ability, and he has every chance of succeeding, ill wish him the best regardless, got the world at his feet It will be hugely disappointing to lose him, I genuinely think he could be our record sale with the way he's progressing. I don't see a move to the eredivise being worse than what he's currently got, he's then got the added bonus of European football. The majority of it will come down to what Bae wants, not what we want. All about how its reinvested, if we sell him and it funds 2 players who end up getting us promoted, all of a sudden it looks like great business. End of the day we know what a talent he is, but 2 goals and 5 assist shouldn't be irreplaceable, but his ceiling might be |
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Post by etebojan on Jul 17, 2024 15:25:02 GMT
It will be hugely disappointing to lose him, I genuinely think he could be our record sale with the way he's progressing. I don't see a move to the eredivise being worse than what he's currently got, he's then got the added bonus of European football. The majority of it will come down to what Bae wants, not what we want. All about how its reinvested, if we sell him and it funds 2 players who end up getting us promoted, all of a sudden it looks like great business. End of the day we know what a talent he is, but 2 goals and 5 assist shouldn't be irreplaceable, but his ceiling might be Hopefully we can stick in a hefty 25%(or higher if at all possible) sell on clause |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 17, 2024 15:29:11 GMT
For all we know there's probably a minimum release clause in his contract somewhere
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 17, 2024 15:29:19 GMT
9 million euro,s someone is having a laugh at that price he is john Coates favourite player he will not sell the crown jewell for that pittance, fuck off Feyenoord youconna afford him
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 17, 2024 15:30:21 GMT
I can't believe people think it's not 100% a good move for him.
Playing in the CL, live in a much nicer country, in a better league. His CL exposure might even get him a move to a CL club in the Premier League.
One thing I am pleased about is that I think Walters will drive a hard bargain.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 17, 2024 15:30:28 GMT
He’s gone.
We just need to extract the most amount of cash (including future fees) and sign as well as we did when we spent more than £2m last year.
Junho
Burger
Manhoef
Mmaee
3 out of 4 where the transfer fees we receive should be way higher than we spent.
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