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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 17, 2024 8:04:56 GMT
If anything it’ll create more interest in him home and abroad, probably PL teams will start to bid? It defo means they'll be sending scouts to monitor him i reckon 😥 |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 17, 2024 8:07:18 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it. Non-story. Prove yourself in CL and then get a move to PL? I'd argue a season in the championship is a better gauge of a players overall game than a season in the dutch league. |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 8:20:49 GMT
Prove yourself in CL and then get a move to PL? I'd argue a season in the championship is a better gauge of a players overall game than a season in the dutch league. CL though. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2024 8:24:39 GMT
It's the same argument used with the Old Firm teams, isn't it?
If you mess up the Champs League, it's back to Ross County and Livingston- or, in their case, Go Ahead Eagles or Volendam.
I think the Championship is a better league and certainly equally visible to Prem scouts. But the temptation of shining in those handful of CL games must be huge
I don't think he'd lose out particularly as if he shines in the Eredivisie, teams will move for him regardless. But a good season for us, and Prem move looks nailed.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 17, 2024 8:26:17 GMT
Feyenoord > Basel > stoke Are they 'greater than' symbols? Works for me. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 17, 2024 8:31:21 GMT
I'd argue a season in the championship is a better gauge of a players overall game than a season in the dutch league. CL though. Yeah fair point if he gets enough minutes in it. I just think if I was wanting to see a players overall worth if I watched him dealing with the physicality of our championship and putting in really decent performances that'd outweigh the dutch league. I look at players like Antony at man utd who came out of the dutch league and I think he's struggled in the prem. From what I've seen of Bae I think he's well capable for our top league now. Hopefully he gives us another season and we sell him for 20 plus million 🙏 |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 8:33:33 GMT
It's the same argument used with the Old Firm teams, isn't it? If you mess up the Champs League, it's back to Ross County - or, in their case, Go Ahead Eagles or Volendam. I think the Championship is a better league and certainly equally visible to Prem scouts. But the temptation of shining in those handful of CL games must be huge I don't think he'd lose out particularly as if he shines in the Eredivisie, teams will move for him regardless. But a good season for us, and Prem move looks nailed. We don’t need to sell and I doubt very much Feyenoord are in any position to make us an offer too good to refuse. We shouldn’t stand in a players way but neither should the player create if we say this is the value we place on you if a club meets it we will accept and you’ll be free to choose. Much as I like watching him I don’t think he’s done anything yet to merit a progressive move. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 8:34:51 GMT
Yeah fair point if he gets enough minutes in it. I just think if I was wanting to see a players overall worth if I watched him dealing with the physicality of our championship and putting in really decent performances that'd outweigh the dutch league. I look at players like Antony at man utd who came out of the dutch league and I think he's struggled in the prem. From what I've seen of Bae I think he's well capable for our top league now. Hopefully he gives us another season and we sell him for 20 plus million 🙏 Yes very high failure rate from Dutch league to Premier league with some very notable exceptions. Do they currently have the next Bergkamp or Van Nistelroy? Certainly not looking at their national team. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2024 11:44:21 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher.
9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2024 11:45:52 GMT
Lol bollocks fee that is, there's going to be daily rumours about this.
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Post by thepottypotter on Jul 17, 2024 11:46:54 GMT
Tell Feyenood to F off. He’s staying!
I hope we can at least get one more season out of him at Stoke. He will be in the PL in no time at all. I am praying that it is with us!
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Post by werrington on Jul 17, 2024 11:48:05 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 17, 2024 11:48:09 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it That fee is too low. Not as drastic as people like to think but it is low. The only good thing about that article is the club don't appear to have been daft enough to put a champions league clause into his contract. We might end up with Bae on a new contract with a realistic release fee if he does stay. |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 11:49:29 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it is it though , 1 decent season in the championship, goals and asssists not quite there yet , Stoke fans always over value our players as previous sales prove |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 17, 2024 11:49:38 GMT
We've got previous for selling the family silver for peanuts.
Hope this is bollocks as I think this coming season will be key for him and burger to see if they can continue where finished off.
If they do we should be asking for top dollar.
All hinges on how we start I guess.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 11:51:03 GMT
played 172 games for Hull so not really a comparison |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 11:51:51 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it That fee is too low. Not as drastic as people like to think but it is low. The only good thing about that article is the club don't appear to have been daft enough to put a champions league clause into his contract. We might end up with Bae on a new contract with a realistic release fee if he does stay. that’s a great solution for both parties tbh |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2024 11:52:16 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it That fee is too low. Not as drastic as people like to think but it is low. The only good thing about that article is the club don't appear to have been daft enough to put a champions league clause into his contract. We might end up with Bae on a new contract with a realistic release fee if he does stay. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he signed a new deal, like Arnie did... |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 11:53:46 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it is it though , 1 decent season in the championship, goals and asssists not quite there yet , Stoke fans always over value our players as previous sales prove It's way undervalued..it's nothing to do with us fans over valuing him. We are used to the club under selling players. Simple as that. The guy has a lot of hype around him, young, now a full Korea international, Got people like Heung Min saying he is the future of Korean football. That is not over selling him. It is the truth. If he goes for anything less than £15 million then it is a complete joke. Especially when you have the likes of Bidace and Greaves going for £18 million.. Best outcome..new contract |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 11:58:59 GMT
is it though , 1 decent season in the championship, goals and asssists not quite there yet , Stoke fans always over value our players as previous sales prove It's way undervalued..it's nothing to do with us fans over valuing him. We are used to the club under selling players. Simple as that. The guy has a lot of hype around him, young, now a full Korea international, Got people like Heung Min saying he is the future of Korean football. That is not over selling him. It is the truth. If he goes for anything less than £15 million then it is a complete joke. Especially when you have the likes of Bidace and Greaves going for £18 million.. Best outcome..new contract you’re quoting players who’ve had more than 1 season in the championship though , like i said as much as we all love Bae and see his potential, his goals and assists need to improve before he gets big money , one more season here will change that but at the moment i’ll be shocked if we get what some are suggesting, but tbh i think he’ll stay either way |
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Post by somersetpotter on Jul 17, 2024 12:00:56 GMT
If we sell for 9m EUROS that would be depressing as fuck
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 12:01:13 GMT
It's way undervalued..it's nothing to do with us fans over valuing him. We are used to the club under selling players. Simple as that. The guy has a lot of hype around him, young, now a full Korea international, Got people like Heung Min saying he is the future of Korean football. That is not over selling him. It is the truth. If he goes for anything less than £15 million then it is a complete joke. Especially when you have the likes of Bidace and Greaves going for £18 million.. Best outcome..new contract you’re quoting players who’ve had more than 1 season in the championship though , like i said as much as we all love Bae and see his potential, his goals and assists need to improve before he gets big money , one more season here will change that but at the moment i’ll be shocked if we get what some are suggesting, but tbh i think he’ll stay either way Bidace has never been prolific. For someone with his talent he should do better than he has. Greaves has had 1 good season. Before then he was pretty much an unknown. |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 12:03:08 GMT
you’re quoting players who’ve had more than 1 season in the championship though , like i said as much as we all love Bae and see his potential, his goals and assists need to improve before he gets big money , one more season here will change that but at the moment i’ll be shocked if we get what some are suggesting, but tbh i think he’ll stay either way Bidace has never been prolific. For someone with his talent he should do better than he has. Greaves has had 1 good season. Before then he was pretty much an unknown. time will tell , wait and see what happens |
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 12:09:05 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it unless that's a release clause? |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 12:17:02 GMT
Dunno if this guy is reliable, but he's got 25k followers including Sky journos and Fraser Fletcher. 9m euros seems pathetic though, so can't see it unless that's a release clause? £7.5 million would be an odd figure for a release clause. |
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Post by superpotter on Jul 17, 2024 12:17:46 GMT
Great threads these ,,Burger was 15m definitely going prem league few months back now Bae 15m after a decent season . He is quality though hope we keep him but don’t believe half these rumours
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 12:22:09 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 12:23:26 GMT
Great threads these ,,Burger was 15m definitely going prem league few months back now Bae 15m after a decent season . He is quality though hope we keep him but don’t believe half these rumours The difference is the Burger to Spurs rumour was one source and not a reliable one. The Bae and Feyenoord rumours are multiple sources and one of them is very very credible. The same one who was the first to call Burger signing for us. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 17, 2024 12:25:35 GMT
9m euros or 8m gbp seems very low. They should be asking far more. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 17, 2024 12:26:54 GMT
One more season I beg. The thing I’m most looking forward to is seeing how this guy does this season.
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