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Post by etebojan on Jul 16, 2024 21:08:57 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c035mn4pl4zoMaybe 8-figures would be possible with the Wieffer money and Slot compo bringing in £40m plus more guaranteed CL money? But what our minimum would be to give the green light, who knows. But if you add in agent and player pressure, does something like £13-14m get it done .....? I'd say £12m plus or not at all. Try to push to £15m. That's what his potential is worth and what he's worth to us if we lose him. We have the contract, we dictate the terms. would want a colossal sell on percentage
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Post by dirtclod on Jul 16, 2024 21:09:35 GMT
Fayewho?
Give me a break
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Post by onionman on Jul 16, 2024 21:22:56 GMT
Can Rotterdam centre match the attractions of Hanley though? Is there a Tesco express he can live near? These things are factors They probably have a clogs museum.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2024 21:48:43 GMT
People who are saying there's "not a chance" are huffing the copium. I just think he’s better than them already and if they bid either it wouldn’t be enough or someone who can afford him would bid.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 16, 2024 21:52:39 GMT
I'd say £12m plus or not at all. Try to push to £15m. That's what his potential is worth and what he's worth to us if we lose him. We have the contract, we dictate the terms. would want a colossal sell on percentage 20% minimum, non-negotiable
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 16, 2024 22:04:15 GMT
Nothing is guaranteed in football but you would think massive TV exposure and having a UK base would enhance his long term professional ambitions.
My tip is that if the money is OK and he’s happy both professionally and personally he’ll do another season here at least.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 16, 2024 23:27:24 GMT
Nothing is guaranteed in football but you would think massive TV exposure and having a UK base would enhance his long term professional ambitions. My tip is that if the money is OK and he’s happy both professionally and personally he’ll do another season here at least. Agree. He knows he is loved here and guaranteed a starting place and important role in a team that are high profile in the Championship and have a chance of getting to the Premier. Why risk that to go to a team where he has to learn another language, another culture, win his place in the team and have less exposure than he does at Stoke and probably less wages? I will probably be proved wrong now but he must know that Premier teams are watching him so why risk a move away from England at the moment when his main ambition is clearly to be a Premier League player?
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 17, 2024 3:58:40 GMT
I always said that Bae is a special talent destined for greater things. And of course I am being proved right as anyone with a proper football eye could see that although many here have derided me. If Bae goes to Feyenoord who would fit his style of play and talent much more than we do, he’d be able to showcase his talent on the biggest stage of all and his talent would shine even brighter as he would be surrounded by players who are capable of getting the best out of him much more than our players do.
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Post by retrostoke on Jul 17, 2024 4:02:56 GMT
Feyenoord will need to do their homework. They might think a 2nd tier Championship club will be grateful of an £8 million profit on a player we took a punt on. They need to know our dong is probably larger than theirs and with no intention or need to sell the lad the promise of Champions League football alone just might be enough when he is here on the brink of Premiership football and getting TV exposure at least 20 times next season.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 17, 2024 5:28:15 GMT
I think it’s mental but our start to the season could dictate this one.
Ambition to get promotion with a good start, could see him stay.
A rotten start and he could leave
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 17, 2024 6:41:42 GMT
Didn't Wouter come from Feyenoord?.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 6:51:32 GMT
Feyenoord will need to do their homework. They might think a 2nd tier Championship club will be grateful of an £8 million profit on a player we took a punt on. They need to know our dong is probably larger than theirs and with no intention or need to sell the lad the promise of Champions League football alone just might be enough when he is here on the brink of Premiership football and getting TV exposure at least 20 times next season. Our dong might be larger than theirs but CL football will probably hold sway if it gets that far, and to be honest it should. Every player deserves to play at the highest level they can. If it gets to that part of the end game then it's about getting what we can for him.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 6:52:25 GMT
Feyenoord will need to do their homework. They might think a 2nd tier Championship club will be grateful of an £8 million profit on a player we took a punt on. They need to know our dong is probably larger than theirs and with no intention or need to sell the lad the promise of Champions League football alone just might be enough when he is here on the brink of Premiership football and getting TV exposure at least 20 times next season. On the brink of the Premier League?
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Post by retrostoke on Jul 17, 2024 7:00:33 GMT
Feyenoord will need to do their homework. They might think a 2nd tier Championship club will be grateful of an £8 million profit on a player we took a punt on. They need to know our dong is probably larger than theirs and with no intention or need to sell the lad the promise of Champions League football alone just might be enough when he is here on the brink of Premiership football and getting TV exposure at least 20 times next season. On the brink of the Premier League? I didn’t say with Stoke.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 7:02:17 GMT
On the brink of the Premier League? I didn’t say with Stoke. So premier league teams can't buy from Holland?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 17, 2024 7:04:52 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it.
Non-story.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 7:08:19 GMT
Didn't Wouter come from Feyenoord?. We signed him from Basel but he did play for Feyenoord before
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 7:08:49 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it. Non-story. Champions League makes a big difference
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 17, 2024 7:22:43 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it. Non-story. Champions League makes a big difference It does but he knows he’ll get a Prem move in 6 months time here if he starts well, and he’s already stated the Prem is his aim.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 17, 2024 7:23:21 GMT
Top league Dutch football is a tremendous stepping stone to the mega bucks big leagues so I think this would be a great temptation for player ( and agent ) but long term interests would suggest he doesn’t need another year of upheaval so early in his career. Another season here would be sensible to develop his skills and most importantly his strength. However as with any player of any talent we can’t expect to hang on to them for too long while we are a club that sees a mid table Championship position as ‘progress’.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 17, 2024 7:26:25 GMT
We don’t need/want to sell, but if a player and his representatives are keen to move there comes a point where the inevitable happens with a player in demand……
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 7:26:55 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it. Non-story. Champions League makes a big difference it certainly will , and who can blame him
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 17, 2024 7:27:18 GMT
Didn't Wouter come from Feyenoord?. We signed him from Basel but he did play for Feyenoord before for me, that little nugget of info has made things that bit more worrying. He now has a team mate who he can talk to about what it's like over there for training/life etc not just the statistics and history of the club. If it's correct that he's currently living opposite tesco in hanley, anything is going to be an upgrade, but it so happens this upgrade could come fro a team offering him champions league football.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jul 17, 2024 7:29:51 GMT
These links were always inevitable it'll be interesting to see what the club and player think of the interest. He doesn't come across as the sort of player who wants to go and sit on a bench and he might see his shorter term future here where is going play a lot. Next summer is a completely different prospect.
From the clubs perspective I hope we get a good future fee percentage and that we've got a Bae MK2 identified.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 17, 2024 7:34:14 GMT
Didn't Wouter come from Feyenoord?. Feyenoord > Basel > stoke
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 17, 2024 7:36:09 GMT
These links were always inevitable it'll be interesting to see what the club and player think of the interest. He doesn't come across as the sort of player who wants to go and sit on a bench and he might see his shorter term future here where is going play a lot. Next summer is a completely different prospect. From the clubs perspective I hope we get a good future fee percentage and that we've got a Bae MK2 identified. He stated he turned down other clubs for stoke as we had a plan for him and promised more game time
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Post by questionable on Jul 17, 2024 7:41:05 GMT
If anything it’ll create more interest in him home and abroad, probably PL teams will start to bid?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 17, 2024 7:54:00 GMT
But, I thought his final ball wasn't good enough and he didn't score enough goals? It's clear to anybody with eyes that the lad is destined to go far beyond Stoke City, I just hope it's not before he's helped us get somewhere. I honestly think we might only have him until January if we are lucky. Hopefully he's that young and likes it here so much that we can get another full season out of him, but if someone wants to pay £15M now they could be looking at making a huge profit again in a few years.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 8:02:47 GMT
Didn't Wouter come from Feyenoord?. Feyenoord > Basel > stoke Are they 'greater than' symbols?
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 17, 2024 8:04:00 GMT
Sideways move and he knows it. Non-story. Prove yourself in CL and then get a move to PL?
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