|
|
Post by baconburger on Aug 19, 2023 10:26:09 GMT
He’s been a mile off the pace and intensity of the game in each of his 3 outings so far. I would imagine most are a little concerned on his current showings some will be open about that others not. Most are idiots then, it's been three games in a league and country he doesn't know. Give the bloke a chance, not everyone hits the ground running. Probably best for many not to comment on what they've seen so far as so many have a huge problem with changing their mind. Not impressed so far but will be over the moon to change my opinion if he bucks his ideas up. |
|
|
|
Post by baconburger on Aug 19, 2023 10:33:16 GMT
Nobody is writing him off, just that so far he has been largely underwhelming, I would love him to kick on and be a major player in our season, he may well be, but at present the jury is out.. What were you expecting and why does there need to be a jury at all? He’s not going to get any better if people are going to be on him after three games, two of which he was absolutely fine in. Madness. Who's been on to him? He went off to a wholly undeserved ovation in his first game. There's a world of difference between making observation of a players performances and being on their back. What's madness is this how dare you comment shtick. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 10:35:39 GMT
How dare people make observations on a player in August it’s preposterous. You said it! He is spot on with his words as well. He hasn't written Mmaee off. |
|
|
|
Post by StokieNath on Aug 19, 2023 12:07:46 GMT
Disgusting to write off a player after 3 games. Exactly let’s not forget Berahino, 10 million was it, Vokes 9 million... He’ll come good I’m positive In which Ryan Mmaee has cost a fraction of the price and has come from a completely different country and different league. I hope he bags a brace today. |
|
|
|
Post by liathroid on Aug 19, 2023 13:38:43 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 19, 2023 13:47:14 GMT
Was just thinking the same. Surely if he was on the plane Thursday you'd expect him to be there. |
|
|
|
Post by bridgnorthstokie on Aug 19, 2023 13:52:05 GMT
Was just thinking the same. Surely if he was on the plane Thursday you'd expect him to be there. Somebody lock the doors so he can't do a runner if Watford give us a beating. |
|
|
|
Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 20, 2023 8:21:44 GMT
How many times has this fella played right back / right wing back ?
|
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 20, 2023 8:30:26 GMT
How many times has this fella played right back / right wing back ? According to Transfermarkt, once at right back and 30 odd right midfield which I imagine to be classed as wing back? |
|
|
|
Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 20, 2023 9:32:05 GMT
How many times has this fella played right back / right wing back ? According to Transfermarkt, once at right back and 30 odd right midfield which I imagine to be classed as wing back? So he's not a right forward in a 433 then |
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 20, 2023 9:40:13 GMT
According to Transfermarkt, once at right back and 30 odd right midfield which I imagine to be classed as wing back? So he's not a right forward in a 433 then About the same amount of games as a right winger as right “midfield” and one as right back |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 9:42:51 GMT
He looks very 'Browny' to me but with better technical ability. A perfect foil for Hoever.
His goal return is poor but he looks to have been played all over the pitch and at a much better level than the Championship.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 9:47:27 GMT
According to Transfermarkt, once at right back and 30 odd right midfield which I imagine to be classed as wing back? So he's not a right forward in a 433 then I'm pretty sure that will be his position in our team |
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Aug 20, 2023 9:53:00 GMT
So he's not a right forward in a 433 then I'm pretty sure that will be his position in our team Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench |
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Aug 20, 2023 9:58:10 GMT
So he's not a right forward in a 433 then I'm pretty sure that will be his position in our team Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench |
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Aug 20, 2023 9:59:14 GMT
I'm pretty sure that will be his position in our team Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench Or he’ll be the anchor on the right hand side to support Hoever’s forward runs. And he’ll be a key part of the press. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 10:09:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure that will be his position in our team Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench I think he will be one of the first names on the team sheet and primarily as a Brown replacement. He has nearly 100 games in Serie A to his name. He isn't coming to sit on our bench. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 10:18:17 GMT
Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench Or he’ll be the anchor on the right hand side to support Hoever’s forward runs. And he’ll be a key part of the press. I think that is definitely the plan |
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2023 10:20:45 GMT
Pretty sure he will play in multiple positions and primarily off the bench Or he’ll be the anchor on the right hand side to support Hoever’s forward runs. And he’ll be a key part of the press. This makes sense given he seems very Brownish. |
|
|
|
Post by shakermaker on Aug 20, 2023 11:30:45 GMT
So he's not a right forward in a 433 then About the same amount of games as a right winger as right “midfield” and one as right back I think he'll be coming in primarily as a wide right midfielder-cum-winger, with the option to be first choice RWB when we go three at the back. Over a third of his games were at RWB last season - he didn't score, but his xG was still 1.2 even from that position which shows he has pace and is a goal threat. |
|
|
|
Post by stokeuk474 on Aug 21, 2023 9:00:18 GMT
We expecting this one to happen today? Will he need a work permit?
As he's been playing in Serie A and has international caps, I wouldn't think so?
|
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Aug 21, 2023 9:06:32 GMT
We expecting this one to happen today? Will he need a work permit? As he's been playing in Serie A and has international caps, I wouldn't think so? All non UK players need a wp Should easily get one |
|
|
|
Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 21, 2023 9:14:24 GMT
About the same amount of games as a right winger as right “midfield” and one as right back I think he'll be coming in primarily as a wide right midfielder-cum-winger, with the option to be first choice RWB when we go three at the back. Over a third of his games were at RWB last season - he didn't score, but his xG was still 1.2 even from that position which shows he has pace and is a goal threat. If we go three at the back surely Hoever is first choice wing back? |
|
|
|
Post by nottsover60 on Aug 21, 2023 9:35:26 GMT
I think he'll be coming in primarily as a wide right midfielder-cum-winger, with the option to be first choice RWB when we go three at the back. Over a third of his games were at RWB last season - he didn't score, but his xG was still 1.2 even from that position which shows he has pace and is a goal threat. If we go three at the back surely Hoever is first choice wing back? Hoever seemed to find it difficult on Saturday. Strangely he seems to be able to get up and down the field as a full back but was really struggling in the second half. There was a huge gap behind him which they were exploiting. Can't get my head around why that should be except that as full back he has a forward tracking back to help him out. It could have been that Mcnally was playing too central and should have been moving over to cover that space when Hoever was upfield. I don't understand why Watford took that winger off. |
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Aug 21, 2023 9:43:51 GMT
If we go three at the back surely Hoever is first choice wing back? Hoever seemed to find it difficult on Saturday. Strangely he seems to be able to get up and down the field as a full back but was really struggling in the second half. There was a huge gap behind him which they were exploiting. Can't get my head around why that should be except that as full back he has a forward tracking back to help him out. It could have been that Mcnally was playing too central and should have been moving over to cover that space when Hoever was upfield. I don't understand why Watford took that winger off. He got a knock first half |
|
|
|
Post by shakermaker on Aug 21, 2023 10:01:40 GMT
If we go three at the back surely Hoever is first choice wing back? Hoever seemed to find it difficult on Saturday. Strangely he seems to be able to get up and down the field as a full back but was really struggling in the second half. There was a huge gap behind him which they were exploiting. Can't get my head around why that should be except that as full back he has a forward tracking back to help him out. It could have been that Mcnally was playing too central and should have been moving over to cover that space when Hoever was upfield. I don't understand why Watford took that winger off. I think that was only the third game Hoever has played as WB, and he has been pretty ineffective in all of them. I think Hoever is a better full-back with licence to get forward (TAA-lite if you like), than a RWB. In a back four Hoever would be first choice FB and Léris would still play in front of him as a RW, but when we go three at the back Léris seems to have better pedigree as a RWB. |
|
|
|
Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 21, 2023 11:47:03 GMT
At Clayton Woods as we speak
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 11:47:35 GMT
At Clayton Woods as we speak Is he? |
|
|
|
Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 21, 2023 11:48:09 GMT
At Clayton Woods as we speak Is he? So I’ve been informed |
|
|
|
Post by reddipotter on Aug 21, 2023 12:04:42 GMT
If we go three at the back surely Hoever is first choice wing back? Hoever seemed to find it difficult on Saturday. Strangely he seems to be able to get up and down the field as a full back but was really struggling in the second half. There was a huge gap behind him which they were exploiting. Can't get my head around why that should be except that as full back he has a forward tracking back to help him out. It could have been that Mcnally was playing too central and should have been moving over to cover that space when Hoever was upfield. I don't understand why Watford took that winger off. When he is at full back, he drifts forward and finds space brilliantly. When he's already further forward as wing back, he's easier to pick up and hasn't as much space. You could see on Saturday that Wilmot hardly played any of those cross-field passes to him, whereas against Rotherham he played several. I agree that Mc Nally should have been covering wider. He was far too narrow and I was surprised that so many people thought he was brilliant. |
|
