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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:03:44 GMT
I really like Leris and for me in the right setup would be a first team regular. The problem is it's hard to see where he fits in a Schumacher team so he ends up looking like a bits and pieces player who only gets on the pitch when there is a gap to fill. 3 million is good money but personally I wouldn't spend it on a direct replacement - the bulk of the money should go to filling key positions, not someone effectively playing a utility role. I’d love to know what position in your team he’s going to be a first team regular in.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2024 8:03:44 GMT
I really like Leris and for me in the right setup would be a first team regular. The problem is it's hard to see where he fits in a Schumacher team so he ends up looking like a bits and pieces player who only gets on the pitch when there is a gap to fill. 3 million is good money but personally I wouldn't spend it on a direct replacement - the bulk of the money should go to filling key positions, not someone effectively playing a utility role. What is the right set up for a guy who has very limited footballing ability?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2024 8:10:33 GMT
Anywhere near 3M sell him.
Do Pisa need some midfielders while we are at it?
Then can have Daniel Johnson for just 4M if they like.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:14:13 GMT
Leris is a head on a stick that can run lots.
And he must run a lot because not his diving makes people dislike him 🤣
Easily pleased doesn’t even come close with him.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 8:20:53 GMT
Anywhere near 3M sell him. Do Pisa need some midfielders while we are at it? Then can have Daniel Johnson for just 4M if they like. DJ's a strange one he wasn't seen again after the Blackburn game where he was selected out of the blue. I thought he'd have been straight out the door this summer, I'd have predicted him not even being here in time for pre-season but alas it looks like we're fucking stuck with him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:24:56 GMT
Anywhere near 3M sell him. Do Pisa need some midfielders while we are at it? Then can have Daniel Johnson for just 4M if they like. DJ's a strange one he wasn't seen again after the Blackburn game where he was selected out of the blue. I thought he'd have been straight out the door this summer, I'd have predicted him not even being here in time for pre-season but alas it looks like we're fucking stuck with him. Who was ever going to want him though? Has he got one or two years left? Ex manager favourite. Signed on a free for I’m guessing 10-20k a week. I would not leave this club if I was him 🤣🤣
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 8:30:17 GMT
DJ's a strange one he wasn't seen again after the Blackburn game where he was selected out of the blue. I thought he'd have been straight out the door this summer, I'd have predicted him not even being here in time for pre-season but alas it looks like we're fucking stuck with him. Who was ever going to want him though? Has he got one or two years left? Ex manager favourite. Signed on a free for I’m guessing 10-20k a week. I would not leave this club if I was him 🤣🤣 just the one I think thank fuck. Still think he'd be good for a top 8 league one team, the likes of Rotherham, Bolton etc. Still don't think he'll be here come september, be loaned out on deadline day no doubt.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:32:13 GMT
Who was ever going to want him though? Has he got one or two years left? Ex manager favourite. Signed on a free for I’m guessing 10-20k a week. I would not leave this club if I was him 🤣🤣 just the one I think thank fuck. Still think he'd be good for a top 8 league one team, the likes of Rotherham, Bolton etc. Still don't think he'll be here come september, be loaned out on deadline day no doubt. Yeah he’d be great in that league. Just depends on how much they’re will to subsidise him for I guess. He’ll be on something mad here. Can clubs in that league afford 5k a week? It’d be very top end. And if we want more then imo we’re fucked.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2024 8:32:37 GMT
Anywhere near 3M sell him. Do Pisa need some midfielders while we are at it? Then can have Daniel Johnson for just 4M if they like. DJ's a strange one he wasn't seen again after the Blackburn game where he was selected out of the blue. I thought he'd have been straight out the door this summer, I'd have predicted him not even being here in time for pre-season but alas it looks like we're fucking stuck with him. Can't get rid of players that nobody wants unless you're able to afford ripping their contracts up, which we clearly can't.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 8, 2024 11:14:00 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:16:00 GMT
DJ's a strange one he wasn't seen again after the Blackburn game where he was selected out of the blue. I thought he'd have been straight out the door this summer, I'd have predicted him not even being here in time for pre-season but alas it looks like we're fucking stuck with him. Who was ever going to want him though? Has he got one or two years left? Ex manager favourite. Signed on a free for I’m guessing 10-20k a week. I would not leave this club if I was him 🤣🤣 Blackburn according to Chopper.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:18:58 GMT
Leris is a head on a stick that can run lots. And he must run a lot because not his diving makes people dislike him 🤣 Easily pleased doesn’t even come close with him. Definitely likes running he runs even when he doesn't need to. He even runs back to the ref for a bollocking.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 8, 2024 11:30:20 GMT
The amount of times we've let someone go with out a replacement lined up or signed and people complained and now they're doing it that way people are complaining, they can't win 😂 We don’t need a replacement for him though do we? I didn’t have Leris making the bench so for me we definitely don’t. They may feel differently 🤷
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 8, 2024 11:31:48 GMT
I really like Leris and for me in the right setup would be a first team regular. The problem is it's hard to see where he fits in a Schumacher team so he ends up looking like a bits and pieces player who only gets on the pitch when there is a gap to fill. 3 million is good money but personally I wouldn't spend it on a direct replacement - the bulk of the money should go to filling key positions, not someone effectively playing a utility role. I’d love to know what position in your team he’s going to be a first team regular in. The Mama role 😉
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 8, 2024 11:38:03 GMT
What are we waiting for if this is true!? Make it done!
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 8, 2024 11:43:43 GMT
What are we waiting for if this is true!? Make it done! maybe waiting to get a deal for Cundle over the line first
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 8, 2024 11:50:53 GMT
Leris will go when we have what we deem to be a suitable replacement.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 8, 2024 12:02:22 GMT
What are we waiting for if this is true!? Make it done! maybe waiting to get a deal for Cundle over the line first Can't be difficult to replace him for the money mentioned, make it done!
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 12:44:03 GMT
Leris will go when we have what we deem to be a suitable replacement. He'll be seeing out his contract then at this rate.
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Post by thornestein on Aug 8, 2024 12:46:06 GMT
I really like Leris and for me in the right setup would be a first team regular. The problem is it's hard to see where he fits in a Schumacher team so he ends up looking like a bits and pieces player who only gets on the pitch when there is a gap to fill. 3 million is good money but personally I wouldn't spend it on a direct replacement - the bulk of the money should go to filling key positions, not someone effectively playing a utility role. What is the right set up for a guy who has very limited footballing ability? with him making the half time brews
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 8, 2024 12:49:10 GMT
Leris will go when we have what we deem to be a suitable replacement. If that's true then it's as daft as can possibly be. If every club waited for a suitable replacement before selling players, no fucker would ever move. The guy is a utility backup, in which we already have Gooch. What leris provides doesn't really need directly replacing. Should be sold at the mentioned fee regardless.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 12:51:20 GMT
Leris will go when we have what we deem to be a suitable replacement. If that's true then it's as daft as can possibly be. If every club waited for a suitable replacement before selling players, no fucker would ever move. The guy is a utility backup, in which we already have Gooch. What leris provides doesn't really need directly replacing. Should be sold at the mentioned fee regardless. The issue might be, that we're already thin on the ground and Gooch is needed on the wing because Bae and Vidigal are out. Thus meaning Leris is needed to cover right back and right wing. Another damning indictment on this summers recruitment so far.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 8, 2024 12:59:39 GMT
If that's true then it's as daft as can possibly be. If every club waited for a suitable replacement before selling players, no fucker would ever move. The guy is a utility backup, in which we already have Gooch. What leris provides doesn't really need directly replacing. Should be sold at the mentioned fee regardless. The issue might be, that we're already thin on the ground and Gooch is needed on the wing because Bae and Vidigal are out. Thus meaning Leris is needed to cover right back and right wing. Another damning indictment on this summers recruitment so far. How are we thin on the ground though? It's pretty clear we need to shift some players before we can properly jump into some serious recruitment. Don't we have almost 30 players, if you consider some u21s who broke into the team? We have 3 wingers at present plus Gooch and then at RB we have junior plus Gooch. I don't see where selling Leris causes an issue in honesty. Injuries shouldn't change this.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 13:10:40 GMT
The issue might be, that we're already thin on the ground and Gooch is needed on the wing because Bae and Vidigal are out. Thus meaning Leris is needed to cover right back and right wing. Another damning indictment on this summers recruitment so far. How are we thin on the ground though? It's pretty clear we need to shift some players before we can properly jump into some serious recruitment. Don't we have almost 30 players, if you consider some u21s who broke into the team? We have 3 wingers at present plus Gooch and then at RB we have junior plus Gooch. I don't see where selling Leris causes an issue in honesty. Injuries shouldn't change this. If we're down to Gooch starting on the left wing on the opening day of the season, I'd say that's pretty thin on the ground personally. If Junior gets injured, who do we play at right back? Gooch is already playing left wing, Wilmot is playing centre half because we only have him and Gibson fit. There's nobody else but Leris?
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 8, 2024 13:12:09 GMT
How are we thin on the ground though? It's pretty clear we need to shift some players before we can properly jump into some serious recruitment. Don't we have almost 30 players, if you consider some u21s who broke into the team? We have 3 wingers at present plus Gooch and then at RB we have junior plus Gooch. I don't see where selling Leris causes an issue in honesty. Injuries shouldn't change this. If we're down to Gooch starting on the left wing on the opening day of the season, I'd say that's pretty thin on the ground personally. The fact that Gooch or leris are considered viable options for LW is abysmal. I'd sooner an u21 winger get a game.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 8, 2024 13:14:12 GMT
How are we thin on the ground though? It's pretty clear we need to shift some players before we can properly jump into some serious recruitment. Don't we have almost 30 players, if you consider some u21s who broke into the team? We have 3 wingers at present plus Gooch and then at RB we have junior plus Gooch. I don't see where selling Leris causes an issue in honesty. Injuries shouldn't change this. If we're down to Gooch starting on the left wing on the opening day of the season, I'd say that's pretty thin on the ground personally. If Junior gets injured, who do we play at right back? Gooch is already playing left wing, Wilmot is playing centre half because we only have him and Gibson fit. There's nobody else but Leris? I will reply also to the edit; I'd sooner have an u21 defender in the squad than watching leris at RB. I've said it all summer, we needed a genuine RB and not rely on utility players to be one of the main 2.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 13:16:23 GMT
If we're down to Gooch starting on the left wing on the opening day of the season, I'd say that's pretty thin on the ground personally. If Junior gets injured, who do we play at right back? Gooch is already playing left wing, Wilmot is playing centre half because we only have him and Gibson fit. There's nobody else but Leris? I will reply also to the edit; I'd sooner have an u21 defender in the squad than watching leris at RB. I've said it all summer, we needed a genuine RB and not rely on utility players to be one of the main 2. No manager/head coach is going to play a completely untested u21 right back (do we even have a right back in the 21s at the moment) over a player that has played plenty of games at right back in Serie A. It just doesn't happen.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 8, 2024 13:42:23 GMT
I really like Leris and for me in the right setup would be a first team regular. The problem is it's hard to see where he fits in a Schumacher team so he ends up looking like a bits and pieces player who only gets on the pitch when there is a gap to fill. 3 million is good money but personally I wouldn't spend it on a direct replacement - the bulk of the money should go to filling key positions, not someone effectively playing a utility role. I still think the idea of leris/Gooch was they were the genuine RB cover and by selling Leris it opens up the Hoever deal. 3m sale for leris and a 3m purchase for Hoever, leaving the wages as the big issue would represent fantastic business, a huge squad upgrade and a massive asset in the team. Of course people will still say he is rubbish but ah well I like the way you’ve positioned that. Makes sense.
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Post by nonameface on Aug 8, 2024 13:42:53 GMT
I will reply also to the edit; I'd sooner have an u21 defender in the squad than watching leris at RB. I've said it all summer, we needed a genuine RB and not rely on utility players to be one of the main 2. No manager/head coach is going to play a completely untested u21 right back (do we even have a right back in the 21s at the moment) over a player that has played plenty of games at right back in Serie A. It just doesn't happen. Yeah it’s very unlikely. Walters has said he’s looking to thin out the squad to give younger players opportunities, so a Leris sale would help, irrelevant of whether we get a replacement. That said, think we must have a genuine interest in signing Hoever so we possibly don’t want to weaken our bartering by having one less full back.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 13:44:29 GMT
Hold on 24 hours I’m sure Jared will want him up at Hull.
He can bring Jojic too.
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