Israel

[crouchpotato1]

[Gawa]

Oct 8, 2023 14:27:53 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Good on him. Most politicians these days would cave into shit like this and tell the media and murdoch empire what they want to hear.

As always Jeremy Corbyn sticks to his principles and beliefs. Not many like him any more.

[desman2]

When are people going to understand that Hams and all the other nut jobs in that area don't want a territorial settlement. They don't hate Israel, they hate jews and want them gone, one way or the other. When i see them on tv roaming around our capital city in numbers then it's the first indication that we are screwed. It sickens me even more to see that they are having some sort of meeting at the Labour conference. I used to be a paid up member of the Labour party, until Corbyn started to cosy up to Sinn Fein/ IRA and attend funerals of killers. Having served there and seeing what these killers could do, that was the point I tore up my card and will never support them again.
But the main thrust is these killers want jews dead, and will not allow condemnation from the weak liberal community of the west deter them.

[satoshi]

Imagine the figures once the yanks get involved

I pray they don’t

[Huddysleftfoot]

Oct 7, 2023 20:15:26 GMT knype said:

Oct 7, 2023 17:31:56 GMT Huddysleftfoot said:

I just knew you'd take the side of a disgusting militant groups

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:29 GMT Gawa said:

Oct 8, 2023 14:27:53 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Good on him. Most politicians these days would cave into shit like this and tell the media and murdoch empire what they want to hear.

As always Jeremy Corbyn sticks to his principles and beliefs. Not many like him any more.

It's a shame he cared more about Israel and Palestine rather than Britain. Hence the reason we rejected him.

[henry]

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:29 GMT Gawa said:

Oct 8, 2023 14:27:53 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Good on him. Most politicians these days would cave into shit like this and tell the media and murdoch empire what they want to hear.

As always Jeremy Corbyn sticks to his principles and beliefs. Not many like him any more.

Not really the case when it came to the Brexit debate though, i believe the cat ran off with his tongue.

[Gawa]

Oct 8, 2023 15:02:47 GMT henry said:

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:29 GMT Gawa said:

Good on him. Most politicians these days would cave into shit like this and tell the media and murdoch empire what they want to hear.

As always Jeremy Corbyn sticks to his principles and beliefs. Not many like him any more.

Not really the case when it came to the Brexit debate though, i believe the cat ran off with his tongue.

That's a fair criticism. Not much I can say to that!

[aureliuspotter]

Best thing they could both do is wipe each other out. Problem solved. Let the innocents and children etc leave 1st then obliterate each other. Saves all this pissing about and "meetings" etc.

[Gawa]

Oct 8, 2023 14:55:24 GMT aureliuspotter said:

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:29 GMT Gawa said:

Good on him. Most politicians these days would cave into shit like this and tell the media and murdoch empire what they want to hear.

As always Jeremy Corbyn sticks to his principles and beliefs. Not many like him any more.

It's a shame he cared more about Israel and Palestine rather than Britain. Hence the reason we rejected him.

Nah he cared and had alot of good policies. Every PM the uk has elected for the last number of years has been backed by Murdoch. If you don't get murdochs backing you don't win.

[Huddysleftfoot]

[prestwichpotter]

Oct 8, 2023 14:27:53 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

A much better statement than the ones from Sunak and Starmer that back Israel’s right to defend itself unequivocally, without acknowledging the elephant in the room which is the illegal occupation. There should be an effort from all parties with skin in the game to push for a cease fire before the violence ends up off the scale…….

[Gawa]

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:31 GMT desman2 said:

When are people going to understand that Hams and all the other nut jobs in that area don't want a territorial settlement. They don't hate Israel, they hate jews and want them gone, one way or the other. When i see them on tv roaming around our capital city in numbers then it's the first indication that we are screwed. It sickens me even more to see that they are having some sort of meeting at the Labour conference. I used to be a paid up member of the Labour party, until Corbyn started to cosy up to Sinn Fein/ IRA and attend funerals of killers. Having served there and seeing what these killers could do, that was the point I tore up my card and will never support them again.
But the main thrust is these killers want jews dead, and will not allow condemnation from the weak liberal community of the west deter them.

I disagree. You honestly think Israel wants a settlement? What makes you think that or gives any indication they do when they've been killing palestines for 80 odd years? Corbyn wants peace and an end to senseless deaths. If you're backing the status quo then you don't want change and you want the genocide to continue.

The same goes with Northern Ireland too. He wanted an end to fighting and needless deaths and for politicians to sit round a table and find a peaceful solution. He was the first MP to invite SF members to Westminster to try and find a peaceful solution.

Army occupation didn't solve anything. It was when the tories got out of power and Labour and Clinton began discussions with the parties in NI and the Irish government that we found a peace deal. Maybe had Westminster engaged in discussions sooner less people, both army and civilians, would have died.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to find peaceful settlements over continued conflict. People like to use it against him when it comes to NI and Israel and make out he's anti British. Why is wanting to end conflict and needless deaths suddenly anti British?

Fair enough people can think his ideas are wrong and disagree with them. But what was Thatchers, Mayors, Camerons, May's, Johnson, Sunaks solutions to all these ongoing conflicts? They have none. Their solution is keep the status quo and keep people dying needlessly. And you can add Tony Blair to that list too from an Israel/Iraq perspective.

I don't see someone who wants to find a peaceful solution to innocent people dying as being anti British.

I don't blame armed forces in any way for these conflicts either, yous are simply doing a dangerous job and following orders. But I'm sure there's plenty of soldiers and family of soldiers who fought in Falklands/NI/Iraq that would have preffered peaceful solutions over war. The end goal for any conflict should be peace and people seem to want to use that against Corbyn.

[bigvern]

Oct 8, 2023 13:29:07 GMT superjw said:

Religion and conflicts in the name of religion are a stain on this world, they have absolutely no place in the modern world.

The amount of pain, suffering and murders in the world, in the name of an imaginary man in the sky, in the year 2023, is absolutely sickingly scary.

[Huddysleftfoot]

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 15:20:13 GMT Gawa said:

Oct 8, 2023 14:55:24 GMT aureliuspotter said:

It's a shame he cared more about Israel and Palestine rather than Britain. Hence the reason we rejected him.

Nah he cared and had alot of good policies. Every PM the uk has elected for the last number of years has been backed by Murdoch. If you don't get murdochs backing you don't win.

I don't agree mate, he hated my country so I hate him in return.

[thehartshillbadger]

Celebrations on the streets of our capital I see. Does Sadiq have anything to say on the matter?

[Gawa]

Oct 8, 2023 15:52:35 GMT aureliuspotter said:

Oct 8, 2023 15:20:13 GMT Gawa said:

Nah he cared and had alot of good policies. Every PM the uk has elected for the last number of years has been backed by Murdoch. If you don't get murdochs backing you don't win.

I don't agree mate, he hated my country so I hate him in return.

And that's fair. He's a controversial character not everyone likes. We can agree to disagree mate.

[Deleted]

Oct 8, 2023 15:24:05 GMT Huddysleftfoot said:

Bombing civilians isn’t though. Something that both Hamas and Israel are guilty of.

[prestwichpotter]

Oct 8, 2023 14:37:31 GMT desman2 said:

When are people going to understand that Hams and all the other nut jobs in that area don't want a territorial settlement. They don't hate Israel, they hate jews and want them gone, one way or the other. When i see them on tv roaming around our capital city in numbers then it's the first indication that we are screwed. It sickens me even more to see that they are having some sort of meeting at the Labour conference. I used to be a paid up member of the Labour party, until Corbyn started to cosy up to Sinn Fein/ IRA and attend funerals of killers. Having served there and seeing what these killers could do, that was the point I tore up my card and will never support them again.
But the main thrust is these killers want jews dead, and will not allow condemnation from the weak liberal community of the west deter them.

It's great that you made a principled stance when Corbyn took over as Labour leader, just out of interest you saw no issues with remaining a card carrying member of the party when hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's met their death under Blair's government?

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 16:07:07 GMT Gawa said:

Oct 8, 2023 15:52:35 GMT aureliuspotter said:

I don't agree mate, he hated my country so I hate him in return.

And that's fair. He's a controversial character not everyone likes. We can agree to disagree mate.

No no you HAVE to agree with ME or you are wrong 😡

Only joking mucka 😂

[knype]

Oct 8, 2023 14:45:21 GMT Huddysleftfoot said:

Oct 7, 2023 20:15:26 GMT knype said:

I just knew you'd take the side of a disgusting militant groups

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah ok, we can see which way you swing

[whatsashig]

All in the name of the same god.

[thehartshillbadger]

Oct 8, 2023 16:48:42 GMT whatsashig said:

All in the name of the same god.

What is God?

[Huddysleftfoot]

[wirralstokie1]

Oct 7, 2023 17:31:56 GMT Huddysleftfoot said:

There's a very good documentary on BBC iplayer called the BLUE BOX on how the map of Palestine/Israel changed - it's made by the granddaughter of the architect of the scheme/land grab.

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 17:11:10 GMT wirralstokie1 said:

Oct 7, 2023 17:31:56 GMT Huddysleftfoot said:

There's a very good documentary on BBC iplayer called the BLUE BOX on how the map of Palestine/Israel changed - it's made by the granddaughter of the architect of the scheme/land grab.

BBC though, I'd hardly trust them to be none biased.

[scfcbiancorossi]

As rightly pointed out above, why are posters linking Hamas to territorial integrity? They are totally different things. Hamas are an extreme Islamic terrorist organisation who despise Jews and other religions. They've just murdered hundreds (the final figure will be close to 1000 I imagine) innocent civilians - Posting stuff on a messageboard in an attempt to try and justify the actions of Hamas, who do not give a fuck about ordinary Palestinian civilians (evidently), is frankly absurd and deeply unpleasant.

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 17:22:46 GMT scfcbiancorossi said:

As rightly pointed out above, why are posters linking Hamas to territorial integrity? They are totally different things. Hamas are an extreme Islamic terrorist organisation who despise Jews and other religions. They've just murdered hundreds (the final figure will be close to 1000 I imagine) innocent civilians - Posting stuff on a messageboard in an attempt to try and justify the actions of Hamas, who do not give a fuck about ordinary Palestinian civilians (evidently), is frankly absurd and deeply unpleasant.

I'm neutral on the Israel Palestine conflict. I can see both sides, but when I see who sides with the Palestinians and what type of person/poster they are it makes me want to drop my neutrality and side with Israel.

[aureliuspotter]

Oct 8, 2023 17:22:46 GMT scfcbiancorossi said:

As rightly pointed out above, why are posters linking Hamas to territorial integrity? They are totally different things. Hamas are an extreme Islamic terrorist organisation who despise Jews and other religions. They've just murdered hundreds (the final figure will be close to 1000 I imagine) innocent civilians - Posting stuff on a messageboard in an attempt to try and justify the actions of Hamas, who do not give a fuck about ordinary Palestinian civilians (evidently), is frankly absurd and deeply unpleasant.

It comes down to racism with them all the time. They see it through the eyes of a simpleton. To them Palestinian = Muslim = brown people = must be innocent.