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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 21, 2024 15:19:38 GMT
Will this change anything? It's largely symbolic whilst the USA have a veto over the rest of the world when it comes to voting against Israel, it's documented and on record though and should be leverage to put pressure on Netanyahu domestically and within America. I'm extremely cynical on both counts but still doesn't mean it shouldn't be done..... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 22, 2024 1:00:59 GMT
I think this clip here could be an iconic one for this period of history. The United States senate clapping a war criminal as he was still actively committing war crimes. Your time lecturing others on human rights is over. The game is up. There will come a time when it will shame us all mate. In a hundred years, school children will be taught about it and they'll wonder, just how could have our forefathers have been so fuckin sick about it at the time? Bit like the disdain we hold for our forefathers now, when we we reflect on the slavery years. Sadly, the people who need to see this chap's testimony, will never even watch it ... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 22, 2024 1:23:53 GMT
Will this change anything? Of course not ... |
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Nov 22, 2024 3:24:20 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 22, 2024 3:24:20 GMT
I think this clip here could be an iconic one for this period of history. The United States senate clapping a war criminal as he was still actively committing war crimes. Your time lecturing others on human rights is over. The game is up. There will come a time when it will shame us all mate. In a hundred years, school children will be taught about it and they'll wonder, just how could have our forefathers have been so fuckin sick about it at the time? Bit like the disdain we hold for our forefathers now, when we we reflect on the slavery years. Sadly, the people who need to see this chap's testimony, will never even watch it ... The idea that the US is doing the bidding of Israel because of the Israeli lobby is fanciful, but yes it is very influential but it is flawed.theory Yes many of the US Senators and Congressmen/women are bought and paid t (as are many UK MPs) is indisputable but who is the Dog and who is the Tail. It's always problematic where in History to start and if you choose a different date I wouldn't quibble. 9/11 was a watershed moment in US History who had never before been attacked on US soil. Bush convinced the US public that Iraq was responsible which of course was Bullshit. Blair for whatever reason decided to become complicit including producing a "Dodgy Dossier" Israel wasn't particularly supportive of the War on Iraq and had previously provided Iran with Military Aid during the First Gulf War but didn't have as cosy arrangement with Iran as they had with the US Puppet the King of Kings the Shah October 7 is another watershed moment in Israeli history falsely using it as an excuse to purge Palestinians to create "Greater Israel" This narrative is compatible with US Foreign Policy that the current Middle East Bogeyman is Iran, a sponsor of International Terrorism, because US doesn't have a Dictator of their choosing in place. Caught up in this melee the Palestinians in Gaza and soon the West Bank are simply "Collateral Damage" as were the Iranians during unjustified sanctions. The central point being, as you have said, the victims, wherever they are, is a result of schizophrenic US Foreign Policy. |
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Nov 22, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 22, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
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Nov 22, 2024 23:19:24 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Nov 22, 2024 23:19:24 GMT
Will this change anything? Of course not ... Graham has lost his fucking mind and wouldn't dare impose sanctions on anyone. |
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Nov 23, 2024 0:15:15 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 23, 2024 0:15:15 GMT
Netanyahu is a genocidal cunt.
Arrest him? We should be fucking shooting him.
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Nov 23, 2024 11:02:06 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 23, 2024 11:02:06 GMT
Graham has lost his fucking mind and wouldn't dare impose sanctions on anyone. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 23, 2024 11:06:48 GMT
Netanyahu is a genocidal cunt. Arrest him? We should be fucking shooting him. Indeed. However ... |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 23, 2024 11:12:56 GMT
Graham has lost his fucking mind and wouldn't dare impose sanctions on anyone. He's fucking insane. Like actually fucking insane. That man needs removing from office immediately. Trump can't actually agree with this clown, surely? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 23, 2024 11:34:13 GMT
He's fucking insane. Like actually fucking insane. That man needs removing from office immediately. Trump can't actually agree with this clown, surely? Absolutely barking mad. The Israeli claws are in deep mate. |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 23, 2024 12:06:33 GMT
He's fucking insane. Like actually fucking insane. That man needs removing from office immediately. Trump can't actually agree with this clown, surely? Absolutely barking mad. The Israeli claws are in deep mate. He's effectively saying they would punish millions of people for their countries leaders complying with the ICC ruling. |
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Nov 23, 2024 12:09:11 GMT
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Post by musik on Nov 23, 2024 12:09:11 GMT
Sweden News yesterday
Joe Biden despise ICC's decision to arrest Nathanyahoo (Putin and some Sudan fucker).
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Post by Gawa on Nov 23, 2024 18:57:27 GMT
What's the plan here? Send a load of nursery assistants to fend of the Palestine children?
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Post by serpico on Nov 23, 2024 20:25:42 GMT
I’m guessing the Israelis still have those pictures of Lindsey.
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Nov 23, 2024 20:30:59 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 23, 2024 20:30:59 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2024 21:59:51 GMT
Bizarre re UK reconnaissance over Gaza is double Israel's Presumably we are giving the Israeli government the data we get? Die is cast isn't it? Wherever Israel war goes we will be in it |
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Nov 24, 2024 10:29:51 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 24, 2024 10:29:51 GMT
Bizarre re UK reconnaissance over Gaza is double Israel's Presumably we are giving the Israeli government the data we get? Die is cast isn't it? Wherever Israel war goes we will be in it Sadly a slightly bit more than just giving them 'data' Will. A thread ... |
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Nov 24, 2024 11:03:32 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 24, 2024 11:03:32 GMT
Bizarre re UK reconnaissance over Gaza is double Israel's Presumably we are giving the Israeli government the data we get? Die is cast isn't it? Wherever Israel war goes we will be in it Sadly a slightly bit more than just giving them 'data' Will. A thread ... To be fair a lot of this has been speculated about but as far as I know never reported as fact until Ambassador Walters confirmation which I linked above. Maybe I just hadn't seen it confirmed before but now it's an avalanche from Media which the Government will have to confront. There were a lot of disturbing things that Walters said but the most profound with direct quotes was this: On the situation in Gaza, Walters challenged the notion that military pressure alone could achieve Israel’s objectives. “ I hear people calling for the continuation of the war until Hamas is destroyed and I think they are kidding themselves,” he said. “ They are imagining an outcome that will never come.”So what Walters has been briefing UK Government is that Israel will never destroy Hamas, my speculation because Hamas is an Ideology, not a human form. Zionism too is an Ideology incompatible with Hamas aims. So you have an intractable problem. Knowing this UK Government has gone all-in in its defence of Israeli actions, but not only defence but offence with active participation. The ICC arrest warrants have stirred up a hornet's nest and Countries will be forced to choose whether it respects International Law or not. Some European Countries and Canada have already declared which side they are on. UK is compromised because it can hardly condemn Israel's actions when they have been a party to them. What a shitshow |
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Nov 24, 2024 11:08:09 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Nov 24, 2024 11:08:09 GMT
British spec ops conducting operations against an Iranian proxy terrorist organisation in a volatile expanding theatre of war. SHOCK.
Why is that even news..
There's no shock about " then Muslim vote" having a issue with that though..
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Nov 24, 2024 12:14:50 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 24, 2024 12:14:50 GMT
British spec ops conducting operations against an Iranian proxy terrorist organisation in a volatile expanding theatre of war. SHOCK. Why is that even news.. There's no shock about " then Muslim vote" having a issue with that though.. In the law of non-contradiction two opposites can not be equally true at the same time. From sources from December 2023 RAF Shadow R1 flew two reconnaissance missions over Gaza usually 6 days a week. Ostensibly these missions were to aid finding the hostages including British ones and prevent Hamas (a proscribed Terrorist Organisation in UK) from moving Military Equipment Surveillance footage is nondiscrimatory and would pick up all activity and some sound in the window it was operating. It is highly likely that the footage could contain evidence of IDF actions that would be of interest to ICC. The opposite is that IDF carried out no such actions. The MOD either lacked curiosity and simply handed the footage to Israel. Alternatively it did view the footage and found no evidence of War Crimes or the opposite is that it did find evidence but didn't act upon it. At the very least a clarification of the extent of UK actions is needed |
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Nov 25, 2024 19:51:27 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 25, 2024 19:51:27 GMT
This is maybe the most interesting Palestinian perspective I have seen so far
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