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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 18, 2024 9:43:23 GMT
Terrifying how another nation can have such influence over our own security services. This is nothing but blatant intimidation, dare to write things that the Israeli regime doesn't like and we'll come and raid your house but do so without charging you. No matter which side of the fence you're on, everybody should be concerned about the power that the Israel Lobby now has over our government.
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Oct 18, 2024 10:32:48 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Oct 18, 2024 10:32:48 GMT
Popped in to Oatcake this morning only to find out now that the UK is under the control of USA, Russia ( forced Brexit on us), Israel - forcing us to sell arms to them. I believe the UK is the second most influential country in the world, although some* choose to differ, not unduly influenced by anyone. The fact that PMs come and go so quickly shows that public opinion controls the UK not big business (as is the EU), the media, the church/religion (as in many Arab countries), dictators/terrorist, (too many to list, but start with Gaza) The UK should support all democratically elected governments, particularly when they are under attack by undemocratic organisations/regimes, seeking to obliterate them. * www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/most-influential-countries
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 18, 2024 11:49:37 GMT
Popped in to Oatcake this morning only to find out now that the UK is under the control of USA, Russia ( forced Brexit on us), Israel - forcing us to sell arms to them. I believe the UK is the second most influential country in the world, although some* choose to differ, not unduly influenced by anyone. The fact that PMs come and go so quickly shows that public opinion controls the UK not big business (as is the EU), the media, the church/religion (as in many Arab countries), dictators/terrorist, (too many to list, but start with Gaza) The UK should support all democratically elected governments, particularly when they are under attack by undemocratic organisations/regimes, seeking to obliterate them.
* www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/most-influential-countriesYou may believe it, many people still believe the earth is flat. The UK supporting all democratically elected governments is actually pretty laughable when you look at our history, and I'm assuming you're ok with our support for Saudia Arabia who are lower than Russia on the worldwide democracy index? (where the likes of Israel are categorised as a "flawed democracy")
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Oct 18, 2024 12:44:17 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 18, 2024 12:44:17 GMT
No 1 news in Sweden today.
Israel's attacks in Gaza continues, the day after Sinwar was killed. Jabala.
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Post by gawa on Oct 18, 2024 12:47:35 GMT
Terrifying how another nation can have such influence over our own security services. This is nothing but blatant intimidation, dare to write things that the Israeli regime doesn't like and we'll come and raid your house but do so without charging you. No matter which side of the fence you're on, everybody should be concerned about the power that the Israel Lobby now has over our government. And this is why we shouldn't be supporting those stupid sentences for some people in those summer riots either. We can see how it is playing out: - Front page news any of the cannon fodder the right wing don't care about getting sentences due to summer riots. They make great headlines and allow the new three word slogan "two tier policing" to thrive. Nigel and co. don't give a shit if a working class mother ends up in prison, he just wants his ammunition. Hench he spends more time talking about a few asians in a macnhester airport than he does trying to do anything for the victims of "two tier policing" - Then unreported news you will have many stories like this one tweeted. He isn't the first there have been a number of left wingers who have faced similar these last few months. And now we end up with this manufactured environment where if you speak out about the arrests of journalists and activists and don't agree with it, you'll then be met with "well about this person?" or "well how long did he get in prison". And so suddenly you then have both sides justifying prison sentences and pushing for tougher policing by referencing their own side and wanting the other side to face the same. The only common denominator of course being that Keir Starmer, Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson and Jess Phillips (and most other establishment mouth pieces) do not give a single shit about any of these individuals. And as a result as a population we are effectively then supporting this draconian policing and attacks on our freedoms of speech and our rights by cheerleading tough sentences on the opposite side. "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."-Chomsky
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Oct 18, 2024 14:27:53 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 18, 2024 14:27:53 GMT
Popped in to Oatcake this morning only to find out now that the UK is under the control of USA, Russia ( forced Brexit on us), Israel - forcing us to sell arms to them. I believe the UK is the second most influential country in the world, although some* choose to differ, not unduly influenced by anyone. The fact that PMs come and go so quickly shows that public opinion controls the UK not big business (as is the EU), the media, the church/religion (as in many Arab countries), dictators/terrorist, (too many to list, but start with Gaza) The UK should support all democratically elected governments, particularly when they are under attack by undemocratic organisations/regimes, seeking to obliterate them. * www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/most-influential-countriesChrist alive, what a sheltered existence you've led, have you seen the state of Libya recently?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 18, 2024 16:54:36 GMT
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Oct 18, 2024 18:30:57 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 18, 2024 18:30:57 GMT
Can't believe Galloway is favourite.
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Oct 18, 2024 19:00:31 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 18, 2024 19:00:31 GMT
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Oct 18, 2024 21:25:34 GMT
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Post by gawa on Oct 18, 2024 21:25:34 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 18, 2024 22:32:59 GMT
On tv just now, info they want help to the sick and starving kids in Gaza.
In the post, a letter with info they want help to the children suffering in Gaza.
When will the war end? When will humans show they are not the greatest idiots alive?
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 19, 2024 7:02:37 GMT
When will humans show they are not the greatest idiots alive? Oh, I think you’re in for rather a long wait with that one!
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Post by gawa on Oct 19, 2024 18:35:47 GMT
Land of the free*
*Unless you speak out on ethnic cleansing.
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Post by Gods on Oct 19, 2024 20:29:02 GMT
Reporting Starmer has just told Netanyahu he was 'alarmed' to hear about the drone pinged towards Netanyahu's summer retreat.
I was hoping it would have cleaned the evil bastard out!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 20, 2024 13:06:48 GMT
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Oct 20, 2024 20:29:14 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 20, 2024 20:29:14 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 20, 2024 21:02:36 GMT
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Post by gawa on Oct 21, 2024 9:19:28 GMT
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Oct 21, 2024 9:24:55 GMT
Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 21, 2024 9:24:55 GMT
I do think we have to be honest here and say that's not evidence of anything outside of bombing the crap out of the place and displacing people. There is no evidence whatsoever of a mass grave there. Nobody (here at least) is a fan of what's going on over there, but the ridiculous bias of some of the news coverage on both sides is laughable were people not buying it.
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Oct 21, 2024 11:02:44 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 21, 2024 11:02:44 GMT
I do think we have to be honest here and say that's not evidence of anything outside of bombing the crap out of the place and displacing people. There is no evidence whatsoever of a mass grave there. Nobody (here at least) is a fan of what's going on over there, but the ridiculous bias of some of the news coverage on both sides is laughable were people not buying it. I'd argue that there has been more than enough evidence to confirm this is genuine. You of course, know different.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 21, 2024 11:27:51 GMT
Understanding the history is extremely important ...
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Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2024 11:38:31 GMT
Understanding the history is extremely important ... Just listening to that What an absolute no mark he was
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Oct 21, 2024 11:39:44 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 21, 2024 11:39:44 GMT
Understanding the history is extremely important ... Just listening to that What an absolute no mark he was Almost as thick as Trump, almost. And the tacit racism is there for everybody to see ...
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Oct 21, 2024 12:05:32 GMT
Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 21, 2024 12:05:32 GMT
I do think we have to be honest here and say that's not evidence of anything outside of bombing the crap out of the place and displacing people. There is no evidence whatsoever of a mass grave there. Nobody (here at least) is a fan of what's going on over there, but the ridiculous bias of some of the news coverage on both sides is laughable were people not buying it. I'd argue that there has been more than enough evidence to confirm this is genuine. You of course, know different. I'm saying that the post does not provide new "emerging" evidence of any new mass grave at all. The image in question is from April 2024 (Nasser Hospital) and many others claiming to be new emerging evidence on X are from October 2023 where mass graves were created by the people of Gaza after an Israeli bombing raid following the Hamas attack of 7 October because the morgues ran out of space. Nobody is doubting the horror of it - just the factual accuracy of claiming it to be new evidence when it isn't.
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Oct 21, 2024 12:07:14 GMT
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Post by Davef on Oct 21, 2024 12:07:14 GMT
I do think we have to be honest here and say that's not evidence of anything outside of bombing the crap out of the place and displacing people. There is no evidence whatsoever of a mass grave there. Nobody (here at least) is a fan of what's going on over there, but the ridiculous bias of some of the news coverage on both sides is laughable were people not buying it. I'd argue that there has been more than enough evidence to confirm this is genuine. You of course, know different. The original tweet was courtesy of a pro Hamas account holder and well known bullshitter (Sulaiman Ahmed). He posted something similar about mass graves earlier this year and you fell for it then as well. This is actually IDF footage. Why the hell would they film themselves preparing to execute and bury hundreds of men?
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Oct 21, 2024 13:24:23 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 21, 2024 13:24:23 GMT
I'd argue that there has been more than enough evidence to confirm this is genuine. You of course, know different. The original tweet was courtesy of a pro Hamas account holder and well known bullshitter (Sulaiman Ahmed). He posted something similar about mass graves earlier this year and you fell for it then as well. This is actually IDF footage. Why the hell would they film themselves preparing to execute and bury hundreds of men? No worries Dave - you keep swallowing it all mate.
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Oct 21, 2024 14:35:46 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 21, 2024 14:35:46 GMT
I'd argue that there has been more than enough evidence to confirm this is genuine. You of course, know different. The original tweet was courtesy of a pro Hamas account holder and well known bullshitter (Sulaiman Ahmed). He posted something similar about mass graves earlier this year and you fell for it then as well. This is actually IDF footage. Why the hell would they film themselves preparing to execute and bury hundreds of men? The IDF seem quite keen to share their videos Dave - here's just one of them.
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Oct 21, 2024 14:58:48 GMT
Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 21, 2024 14:58:48 GMT
The original tweet was courtesy of a pro Hamas account holder and well known bullshitter (Sulaiman Ahmed). He posted something similar about mass graves earlier this year and you fell for it then as well. This is actually IDF footage. Why the hell would they film themselves preparing to execute and bury hundreds of men? The IDF seem quite keen to share their videos Dave - here's just one of them. The footage you keep posting is of the Naser Hospital bombing of April 2024...not new and emerging evidence of a mass grave at all.
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Post by gawa on Oct 21, 2024 15:53:45 GMT
Great video.
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Post by gawa on Oct 21, 2024 15:59:42 GMT
The original tweet was courtesy of a pro Hamas account holder and well known bullshitter (Sulaiman Ahmed). He posted something similar about mass graves earlier this year and you fell for it then as well. This is actually IDF footage. Why the hell would they film themselves preparing to execute and bury hundreds of men? No worries Dave - you keep swallowing it all mate. The sadder thing is that the many videos and tweets of dismembered kids over the last few weeks must all be real. Not had any of our fact checkers disproving it who monitor the thread to claim things are false. I'm more concerned about the 100s of things which aren't fake rather than the handful which are real but occurred a few months ago so it's OK now.
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