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Jul 20, 2024 21:38:45 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 21:38:45 GMT
I don't know if you're taking the piss Paul. It's not even a question. Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, etc would wipe Israel out without a second thought if they could. The question is, would Hamas even exist at all, if it wasn't for the atrocities committed by Israel? As I said further up the page, there isn't a chicken and egg situation going on here. This is just from recent history, nevermind what went on in the middle of the last century ... That's a valid point.... but in response to the question, Hamas as they are now would wipe Israel off the map if they could.
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 21:40:15 GMT
Israel is an apartheid state which has been committing mass atrocities for 75 years. The question I was asking, was why he believed that Hamas would be worse than Israel, if they had their fire power? Defending a terrorist organisation yet again, we see you Absolute nonsense Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 21:43:10 GMT
Defending a terrorist organisation yet again, we see you Absolute nonsense Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas Likewise, criticising Hamas is not defending the IDL.
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Jul 20, 2024 21:50:23 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 21:50:23 GMT
Absolute nonsense Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas Likewise, criticising Hamas is not defending the IDL.
Where has anybody suggested this?
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Jul 20, 2024 21:50:44 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2024 21:50:44 GMT
Here we go again…..
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Jul 20, 2024 21:54:55 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 21:54:55 GMT
Likewise, criticising Hamas is not defending the IDL. Where has anybody suggested this?
Just making a counter point Paul. Who is defending the IDL and what the Zionists are doing? Why didn't you ask the same question of Lordb?
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Jul 20, 2024 21:55:27 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 21:55:27 GMT
The question is, would Hamas even exist at all, if it wasn't for the atrocities committed by Israel? As I said further up the page, there isn't a chicken and egg situation going on here. This is just from recent history, nevermind what went on in the middle of the last century ... That's a valid point.... but in response to the question, Hamas as they are now would wipe Israel off the map if they could.
I haven't said that they wouldn't, I asked how he had come to this conclusion?
I rather suspect that if Hamas were equally as equipped militarily as Israel, then the situation would have already been resolved.
Two nuclear powers, equally matched, couldn't afford to attempt destroy the other one because it would ultimately result in mutually assured destruction for both of them.
Indeed the very reason, that there hasn't been a resolution, is because one nation is essentially fighting with bows and arrows against another using tanks and guns.
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Jul 20, 2024 21:56:46 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 21:56:46 GMT
Where has anybody suggested this?
Just making a counter point Paul. Who is defending the IDL and what the Zionists are doing? Why didn't you ask the same question of Lordb?
It's not a counter point though is it because absolutely nobody suggested as much?
It is what is known, as a straw man argument.
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Jul 20, 2024 21:57:40 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 21:57:40 GMT
Just making a counter point Paul. Who is defending the IDL and what the Zionists are doing? Why didn't you ask the same question of Lordb? It's not a counter point though is it because absolutely nobody suggested as much? It is what is known, as a straw man argument.
It's a counter point for those who have brains mate.
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Jul 20, 2024 22:03:37 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 22:03:37 GMT
Just making a counter point Paul. Who is defending the IDL and what the Zionists are doing? Why didn't you ask the same question of Lordb? It's not a counter point though is it because absolutely nobody suggested as much? It is what is known, as a straw man argument.
Answer my question Paul. 'Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas' Why didn't you pipe up when LordB said this? No one said otherwise. It's a straw man argument in your words. Just wondering why you didn't have the balls to pick that one out, rather than waiting for my reply. Agenda mate.
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Jul 20, 2024 22:05:32 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 22:05:32 GMT
It's not a counter point though is it because absolutely nobody suggested as much? It is what is known, as a straw man argument.
It's a counter point for those who have brains mate.
Didn't take you long to resort to the personal insult did it?
Funnily enough, I was just thinking to myself, hey up, Fozzy's actually up for having a serious debate tonight.
Shame ...
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Jul 20, 2024 22:06:58 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 22:06:58 GMT
It's a counter point for those who have brains mate. Didn't take you long to resort to the personal insult did it? Funnily enough, I was just thinking to myself, hey up, Fozzy's actually up for having a serious debate tonight. Shame ... Haven't got time for you Paul. I can't respect posters who change their tune depending on who they engage with.
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Jul 20, 2024 22:09:03 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 22:09:03 GMT
It's not a counter point though is it because absolutely nobody suggested as much? It is what is known, as a straw man argument.
Answer my question Paul. 'Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas' Why didn't you pipe up when LordB said this? No one said otherwise. It's a straw man argument in your words. Just wondering why you didn't have the balls to pick that one out, rather than waiting for my reply. Agenda mate.
What do you mean, why didn't I pipe up?
Attacking Israeli atrocities isn't defending Hamas, what did I need to pipe up about, lordb is completely correct?
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Jul 20, 2024 22:10:40 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 22:10:40 GMT
Answer my question Paul. 'Attacking Israeli atrucities is not defending Hamas' Why didn't you pipe up when LordB said this? No one said otherwise. It's a straw man argument in your words. Just wondering why you didn't have the balls to pick that one out, rather than waiting for my reply. Agenda mate. What do you mean, why didn't I pipe up? Attacking Israeli atrocities isn't defending Hamas, what did I need to pipe up about, lordb is completely correct?
So he's correct but when I say the same thing from the other perspective it's a straw man argument? OK Paul. 👌 Have a good night. You're not worth the time.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2024 22:12:10 GMT
What do you mean, why didn't I pipe up? Attacking Israeli atrocities isn't defending Hamas, what did I need to pipe up about, lordb is completely correct?
So he's correct but when I say the same thing from the other perspective it's a straw man argument? OK Paul. 👌 Have a good night. You're not worth the time. It’s worth my time reading this exchange😀
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Jul 20, 2024 22:13:47 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2024 22:13:47 GMT
What do you mean, why didn't I pipe up? Attacking Israeli atrocities isn't defending Hamas, what did I need to pipe up about, lordb is completely correct?
So he's correct but when I say the same thing from the other perspective it's a straw man argument? OK Paul. 👌 Have a good night. You're not worth the time.
The difference being, that lordb was directly responding to a statement that knype had made.
Whereas you were responding to a statement that only you had made
That's the very definition of a straw man argument.
And you still haven't explained what it was, that I was supposed to not have the balls to 'pipe up about'.
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Post by gawa on Jul 20, 2024 22:20:55 GMT
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Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket
Main Event Void v wilko
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Jul 20, 2024 22:25:14 GMT
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Post by sticky on Jul 20, 2024 22:25:14 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko Cant we have a wresting tag team match instead
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 20, 2024 22:26:02 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko Full metals all right I have no issue with him. Bayerns the one who has beef with me after my comments re the rapid increase in population To be fair though I’m a lover not a fighter.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 20, 2024 22:36:54 GMT
So he's correct but when I say the same thing from the other perspective it's a straw man argument? OK Paul. 👌 Have a good night. You're not worth the time. The difference being, that lordb was directly responding to a statement that knype had made. Whereas you were responding to a statement that only you had made
That's the very definition of a straw man argument. And you still haven't explained what it was, that I was supposed to not have the balls to 'pipe up about'.
E6B3CE0E-712B-40FE-A226-864318C1D53B.webp (5.25 KB) Did someone call
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Jul 20, 2024 22:40:28 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 20, 2024 22:40:28 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko Full metals all right I have no issue with him. Bayerns the one who has beef with me after my comments re the rapid increase in population To be fair though I’m a lover not a fighter. So was Michael Jackson mate 😀 Not sure Bayern vs the entire human population is a fair fight.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2024 22:42:39 GMT
Full metals all right I have no issue with him. Bayerns the one who has beef with me after my comments re the rapid increase in population To be fair though I’m a lover not a fighter. So was Michael Jackson mate 😀 Not sure Bayern vs the entire human population is a fair fight. That’s right, the entire human population would have no chance
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Jul 20, 2024 22:43:41 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2024 22:43:41 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko Cant we have a wresting tag team match instead Kinky devil
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Jul 20, 2024 22:54:29 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 20, 2024 22:54:29 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko I'll be the ring card girl.
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Jul 20, 2024 22:55:36 GMT
Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 20, 2024 22:55:36 GMT
So was Michael Jackson mate 😀 Not sure Bayern vs the entire human population is a fair fight. That’s right, the entire human population would have no chance
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Post by gawa on Jul 20, 2024 23:05:33 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko I'll be the ring card girl. You're in the prelims against essexstokey
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Jul 20, 2024 23:11:38 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 20, 2024 23:11:38 GMT
I'll be the ring card girl. You're in the prelims against essexstokey That's like watching two bald men fight over a comb. If anything I'd challenge Bayern to a pedant off. I'd clearly get trounced but at least I'd be a gallant and honourable loser.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 20, 2024 23:38:30 GMT
Hamas is a terrorist organisation; I don't think anyone on this thread has, or would, "lap up" any proclamations from Hamas. Would you say Hamas actions are worse than the current Israeli regimes actions? Israel is a terrorist, apartheid state, which appears to be fully committed to the complete destruction of Palestinians, and the ethnic cleansing of the land that, it alone, sees as Greater Israel
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Jul 21, 2024 1:28:48 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 1:28:48 GMT
And it appears that sadly, the Labour Party have elected to follow the same path ...
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 21, 2024 7:18:22 GMT
Would you say Hamas actions are worse than the current Israeli regimes actions? Israel is a terrorist, apartheid state, which appears to be fully committed to the complete destruction of Palestinians, and the ethnic cleansing of the land that, it alone, sees as Greater Israel Correct
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