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Post by chigstoke on Jul 21, 2024 7:38:48 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko Cant we have a wresting tag team match instead Triple threat tag match, it’d be like the Hardys vs Dudley Boys vs Christian and Edge.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 21, 2024 10:01:49 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko He's alright is cobs. Can't remember ever having an issue Which kinda proves this is a ppv for the casuals. No matches with any real needle. I get what Paul and Fos have been doing now creating fake beef to sell it to the casual. Nice try lads. Nice try. Probably both sat back with beer in hand laughing with each other about how the casuals lap it up 😉
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Jul 21, 2024 23:28:06 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 23:28:06 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 0:59:16 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko I'm afraid that the Foster v Paul match will need to he cancelled as we're both on sabbaticals. We get along well now that we've agreed not to communicate with eachother. A bit like a marriage after 10 years.
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Jul 22, 2024 1:41:02 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 22, 2024 1:41:02 GMT
I’ve not watched the video but can imagine the content. From a personal view I don’t agree with banning athletes from a games because of politics unless the athlete themself wants to bring their personal view of their government in. The problem with the world is that those in charge making the decisions do not represent the vast majority of those they represent but that there decisions heavily affect them. I’m pretty sure that 99 percent of us want to live a good life and get on.
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Jul 22, 2024 1:52:22 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 1:52:22 GMT
I’ve not watched the video but can imagine the content. From a personal view I don’t agree with banning athletes from a games because of politics unless the athlete themself wants to bring their personal view of their government in. The problem with the world is that those in charge making the decisions do no represent the vast majority of those they represent but that there decisions heavily affect them. I’m pretty sure that 99 percent of us want to live a good life and get on. Don't really feel strongly about this either way. But we do distinguish between zionists and non-zionists. So this comes across a bit antisemitic. However, I can imagine that an Israeli team in the games would pose a security risk to themselves and others. So for public safety it makes sense for them to sit this one out.
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Jul 22, 2024 1:52:35 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2024 1:52:35 GMT
From a personal view I don’t agree with banning athletes from a games because of politics unless the athlete themself wants to bring their personal view of their government in.
So you believe that it was wrong to ban Russia from the Euro's and that they should be allowed to compete in the Olympics?
Indeed, you'd suggest that South Africa (as a recognised Apartheid nation) shouldn't have been banned from international sport in the 70's and the 80's?
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Jul 22, 2024 1:55:40 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 22, 2024 1:55:40 GMT
I’ve not watched the video but can imagine the content. From a personal view I don’t agree with banning athletes from a games because of politics unless the athlete themself wants to bring their personal view of their government in. The problem with the world is that those in charge making the decisions do no represent the vast majority of those they represent but that there decisions heavily affect them. I’m pretty sure that 99 percent of us want to live a good life and get on. Don't really feel strongly about this either way. But we do distinguish between zionists and non-zionists. So this comes across a bit antisemitic. However, I can imagine that an Israeli team in the games would pose a secuty risk to themselves and others. So for public safety it makes sense for them to sit this one out. A good point mate when you put it like that.
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Jul 22, 2024 2:05:29 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 22, 2024 2:05:29 GMT
From a personal view I don’t agree with banning athletes from a games because of politics unless the athlete themself wants to bring their personal view of their government in. So you believe that it was wrong to ban Russia from the Euro's and that they should be allowed to compete in the Olympics? Indeed, you'd suggest that South Africa shouldn't have been banned from international sport in the 70's and the 80's?
i’ve just woken up so don’t want to get into some long debate as I’m going back to bed and got work tomorrow. I’ll leave you with this. I don’t know enough details re the cases that you mention. All i’m saying is that it’s a shame that politics have to interfere with sport and that those competing are individuals who may not necessarily agree with their government and that it’s a shame that as athletes it’s tragic that they can’t go to a games or world cup that they’ve worked to compete in for many years because of something that’s often out of their control and decisions made by politicians that they have as an individual have no say over. Just an opinion. Night.
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 2:06:59 GMT
Don't really feel strongly about this either way. But we do distinguish between zionists and non-zionists. So this comes across a bit antisemitic. However, I can imagine that an Israeli team in the games would pose a secuty risk to themselves and others. So for public safety it makes sense for them to sit this one out. A good point mate when you put it like that. France already has an issue with Islamic radicals. Add to that all the pro Palestine protests, and if you then allow an Israeli team in (keeping in mind that a lot of the events are outside of the stadium in public areas), then you're asking for trouble. I dont really agree but it's not worth the hassle. It's not like they'd get any medals anyway
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2024 2:10:16 GMT
So you believe that it was wrong to ban Russia from the Euro's and that they should be allowed to compete in the Olympics? Indeed, you'd suggest that South Africa shouldn't have been banned from international sport in the 70's and the 80's?
i’ve just woken up so don’t want to get into some long debate as I’m going back to bed and got work tomorrow. I’ll leave you with this. I don’t know enough details re the cases that you mention.
Fair enough Cobs.
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Jul 22, 2024 12:03:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 12:03:18 GMT
A good point mate when you put it like that. France already has an issue with Islamic radicals. Add to that all the pro Palestine protests, and if you then allow an Israeli team in (keeping in mind that a lot of the events are outside of the stadium in public areas), then you're asking for trouble. I dont really agree but it's not worth the hassle. It's not like they'd get any medals anyway Aren’t they then just screwing the athletes that have trained all their lives for such an event, as well as also ceding the field to terrorists? It sounds like that would be a great PR victory for them.
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Jul 22, 2024 12:11:06 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jul 22, 2024 12:11:06 GMT
Oatcake boxing fund raiser Gawa v Wannabee Foster v Paul Huddy v Knype Prestwich v Bianco Oggy v Badger Cobham v fullmetaljacket Main Event Void v wilko I'm afraid that the Foster v Paul match will need to he cancelled as we're both on sabbaticals. We get along well now that we've agreed not to communicate with eachother. A bit like a marriage after 10 years. Mikey has asked to take your place on the card instead mate.
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Jul 22, 2024 12:12:14 GMT
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 12:12:14 GMT
France already has an issue with Islamic radicals. Add to that all the pro Palestine protests, and if you then allow an Israeli team in (keeping in mind that a lot of the events are outside of the stadium in public areas), then you're asking for trouble. I dont really agree but it's not worth the hassle. It's not like they'd get any medals anyway Aren’t they then just screwing the athletes that have trained all their lives for such an event, as well as also ceding the field to terrorists? It sounds like that would be a great PR victory for them. Yes they are, but they'll dress it up like they're making a stand again Zionism, whilst punishing all Israelis.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 23, 2024 4:31:01 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 23, 2024 10:11:05 GMT
Hard to but a must watch.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 23, 2024 10:14:40 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 23, 2024 10:24:14 GMT
Hard to but a must watch. Those who talk about Hamas propaganda fail to understand that despite Israel's best efforts there are enough brave doctors and medics and aid organisations on the ground to document the horrors of what the IDF are doing to innocent people in Gaza. They are simply kidding themselves to suggest the evidence isn't there in front of their own eyes. I saw a couple of verified clips on social media yesterday that I don't mind admitting made me sob. They were about as bad is it gets , kids the same age as my own just being butchered to death. Honestly those who's only argument is "But what about October 7th?" can just fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. All innocent deaths are just tragic, but where's the empathy and compassion for the kids of Gaza?
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Post by themistocles on Jul 23, 2024 17:52:57 GMT
Hard to but a must watch. Those who talk about Hamas propaganda fail to understand that despite Israel's best efforts there are enough brave doctors and medics and aid organisations on the ground to document the horrors of what the IDF are doing to innocent people in Gaza. They are simply kidding themselves to suggest the evidence isn't there in front of their own eyes. I saw a couple of verified clips on social media yesterday that I don't mind admitting made me sob. They were about as bad is it gets , kids the same age as my own just being butchered to death. Honestly those who's only argument is "But what about October 7th?" can just fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. All innocent deaths are just tragic, but where's the empathy and compassion for the kids of Gaza? The issue with " evidence in front of their own eyes" is the near all unsubstantiated claims that target emotion, that fester in this forum/ all social media channels. I've recently done some work with 77 brigade, where on that particular day 96% of news articles from a high number of MSM across the world were disproven, deemed low level source, misinformation or plain AI ( that included photos/videos). So no I'm not going to "fuck right off". I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians. 10 front line doctors say one thing, another 10 say completely different. Who are you believing?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 23, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
What does it take to realise that they're playing for the same team, just wearing a different shirt whilst doing it.
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Jul 23, 2024 19:30:02 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 23, 2024 19:30:02 GMT
Those who talk about Hamas propaganda fail to understand that despite Israel's best efforts there are enough brave doctors and medics and aid organisations on the ground to document the horrors of what the IDF are doing to innocent people in Gaza. They are simply kidding themselves to suggest the evidence isn't there in front of their own eyes. I saw a couple of verified clips on social media yesterday that I don't mind admitting made me sob. They were about as bad is it gets , kids the same age as my own just being butchered to death. Honestly those who's only argument is "But what about October 7th?" can just fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. All innocent deaths are just tragic, but where's the empathy and compassion for the kids of Gaza? The issue with " evidence in front of their own eyes" is the near all unsubstantiated claims that target emotion, that fester in this forum/ all social media channels. I've recently done some work with 77 brigade, where on that particular day 96% of news articles from a high number of MSM across the world were disproven, deemed low level source, misinformation or plain AI ( that included photos/videos). So no I'm not going to "fuck right off". I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians. 10 front line doctors say one thing, another 10 say completely different. Who are you believing? I’ve seen some horrors from October 7th, no one is denying them albeit some of the claims of beheaded babies etc. are complete fabrications not just according to me but from Israel’s own records. How many dead children before “but October 7th?” gets challenged, 50,000, 100,000, all of them? Have you done any work on the West Bank as well, what are the algorithms saying about Palestinian’s having their homes and land stolen from them and getting killed when resisting?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 23, 2024 20:20:31 GMT
Those who talk about Hamas propaganda fail to understand that despite Israel's best efforts there are enough brave doctors and medics and aid organisations on the ground to document the horrors of what the IDF are doing to innocent people in Gaza. They are simply kidding themselves to suggest the evidence isn't there in front of their own eyes. I saw a couple of verified clips on social media yesterday that I don't mind admitting made me sob. They were about as bad is it gets , kids the same age as my own just being butchered to death. Honestly those who's only argument is "But what about October 7th?" can just fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. All innocent deaths are just tragic, but where's the empathy and compassion for the kids of Gaza? I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians.
Let's say this is true.
Are you saying that the atrocities committed by Israel over the last 75 years prior to October 7th and the atrocities committed by Israel since October 7th are somehow justified?
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Jul 24, 2024 5:52:54 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 24, 2024 5:52:54 GMT
The queers for Palestine question and Israel in the Qur'an questions got me. In general it just seems virtue signalling at its finest rather than any educated understanding.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 24, 2024 6:25:15 GMT
Those who talk about Hamas propaganda fail to understand that despite Israel's best efforts there are enough brave doctors and medics and aid organisations on the ground to document the horrors of what the IDF are doing to innocent people in Gaza. They are simply kidding themselves to suggest the evidence isn't there in front of their own eyes. I saw a couple of verified clips on social media yesterday that I don't mind admitting made me sob. They were about as bad is it gets , kids the same age as my own just being butchered to death. Honestly those who's only argument is "But what about October 7th?" can just fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. All innocent deaths are just tragic, but where's the empathy and compassion for the kids of Gaza? The issue with " evidence in front of their own eyes" is the near all unsubstantiated claims that target emotion, that fester in this forum/ all social media channels. I've recently done some work with 77 brigade, where on that particular day 96% of news articles from a high number of MSM across the world were disproven, deemed low level source, misinformation or plain AI ( that included photos/videos). So no I'm not going to "fuck right off". I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians. 10 front line doctors say one thing, another 10 say completely different. Who are you believing? Who am I believing Well it certainly isn’t the Zionist genocidal fuck heads currently representing the people of Israel Or there lickspittle propagandists who are complicit in the death of every innocent life
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Jul 24, 2024 7:01:01 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Jul 24, 2024 7:01:01 GMT
The issue with " evidence in front of their own eyes" is the near all unsubstantiated claims that target emotion, that fester in this forum/ all social media channels. I've recently done some work with 77 brigade, where on that particular day 96% of news articles from a high number of MSM across the world were disproven, deemed low level source, misinformation or plain AI ( that included photos/videos). So no I'm not going to "fuck right off". I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians. 10 front line doctors say one thing, another 10 say completely different. Who are you believing? I’ve seen some horrors from October 7th, no one is denying them albeit some of the claims of beheaded babies etc. are complete fabrications not just according to me but from Israel’s own records. How many dead children before “but October 7th?” gets challenged, 50,000, 100,000, all of them? Have you done any work on the West Bank as well, what are the algorithms saying about Palestinian’s having their homes and land stolen from them and getting killed when resisting? The beheaded babies example gets used so often even though nobody who supports Israel even tries to mention it. Hamas is a death cult. Most of the atrocities I saw were posted by Hamas themselves.listen to the call recordings with idf officers telling them to get civilians out of buildings. 'We love death' is the response. The IDF as an institution does more than any other military in history to avoid civilian casualties. I don't remember reading about the allies in ww2 dropping leaflets, in German, in Berlin and Dresden telling people before bombs dropped to get out of the way. You could definitely argue that Israel only does those things because they know they're in the global spotlight though.
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Post by gawa on Jul 24, 2024 7:53:00 GMT
I’ve seen some horrors from October 7th, no one is denying them albeit some of the claims of beheaded babies etc. are complete fabrications not just according to me but from Israel’s own records. How many dead children before “but October 7th?” gets challenged, 50,000, 100,000, all of them? Have you done any work on the West Bank as well, what are the algorithms saying about Palestinian’s having their homes and land stolen from them and getting killed when resisting? The beheaded babies example gets used so often even though nobody who supports Israel even tries to mention it. Hamas is a death cult. Most of the atrocities I saw were posted by Hamas themselves.listen to the call recordings with idf officers telling them to get civilians out of buildings. 'We love death' is the response. The IDF as an institution does more than any other military in history to avoid civilian casualties. I don't remember reading about the allies in ww2 dropping leaflets, in German, in Berlin and Dresden telling people before bombs dropped to get out of the way. You could definitely argue that Israel only does those things because they know they're in the global spotlight though. The beheading babies is one of many examples. You got called a conspiracy theorist and antisemite if you spoke about Israel using tanks and choppers against their own citizens. And then after months of lies, gaslighting and claiming its antisemetic propoganda what happens.... www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/7/israeli-army-used-hannibal-directive-during-october-7-hamas-attack-reportAnd guess what... they lied about doing it in 2014 too. A bit like they also lied for months about killing Shireen Abu Akleh... and guess what happened there: www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/18/upsetting-shireen-abu-akleh-family-rejects-israels-sorry
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 24, 2024 9:37:26 GMT
I’ve seen some horrors from October 7th, no one is denying them albeit some of the claims of beheaded babies etc. are complete fabrications not just according to me but from Israel’s own records. How many dead children before “but October 7th?” gets challenged, 50,000, 100,000, all of them? Have you done any work on the West Bank as well, what are the algorithms saying about Palestinian’s having their homes and land stolen from them and getting killed when resisting? The beheaded babies example gets used so often even though nobody who supports Israel even tries to mention it. Hamas is a death cult. Most of the atrocities I saw were posted by Hamas themselves.listen to the call recordings with idf officers telling them to get civilians out of buildings. 'We love death' is the response. The IDF as an institution does more than any other military in history to avoid civilian casualties. I don't remember reading about the allies in ww2 dropping leaflets, in German, in Berlin and Dresden telling people before bombs dropped to get out of the way. You could definitely argue that Israel only does those things because they know they're in the global spotlight though. I’m not nor have I ever defended Hamas’ actions on Oct 7th. Your statement about the IDF I just find absolutely laughable. What are your thoughts on what’s happening and has been happening in the West Bank just out of interest, where illegal settlers kill and steal from Palestinian’s whilst the IDF sit back and watch?
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Post by themistocles on Jul 24, 2024 10:01:58 GMT
The issue with " evidence in front of their own eyes" is the near all unsubstantiated claims that target emotion, that fester in this forum/ all social media channels. I've recently done some work with 77 brigade, where on that particular day 96% of news articles from a high number of MSM across the world were disproven, deemed low level source, misinformation or plain AI ( that included photos/videos). So no I'm not going to "fuck right off". I can guarantee what ever you saw pales in comparison to the media I have been shown from 7th October against Israel civilians. 10 front line doctors say one thing, another 10 say completely different. Who are you believing? Who am I believing Well it certainly isn’t the Zionist genocidal fuck heads currently representing the people of Israel Or there lickspittle propagandists who are complicit in the death of every innocent life So your irrational skewed agenda is all to see. Pointless engaging with you because nothing will change your mind. You succumb to this agenda through your underlining hatred of Israel and Jews. There has been less than 10,000 civilian deaths in Gaza since 07 Oct. Very low numbers for a war against a fully formed terror army that has turned GAZA into a defended position and actively seeks civilian casualties. For Modern Urban warfare that puts this operation well below the average for civilian deaths. IDF take more measures than most other militaries to ensure the reduction in civilian casualties. But its pointless, you and the rest of you have your agenda and work yourselves into a frenzy from Hamas propaganda.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 24, 2024 11:08:43 GMT
Who am I believing Well it certainly isn’t the Zionist genocidal fuck heads currently representing the people of Israel Or there lickspittle propagandists who are complicit in the death of every innocent life So your irrational skewed agenda is all to see. Pointless engaging with you because nothing will change your mind. You succumb to this agenda through your underlining hatred of Israel and Jews. There has been less than 10,000 civilian deaths in Gaza since 07 Oct. Very low numbers for a war against a fully formed terror army that has turned GAZA into a defended position and actively seeks civilian casualties. For Modern Urban warfare that puts this operation well below the average for civilian deaths. IDF take more measures than most other militaries to ensure the reduction in civilian casualties. But its pointless, you and the rest of you have your agenda and work yourselves into a frenzy from Hamas propaganda. I’m not sure if your having a monumental windup Or you actually believe the complete shit your posting The world knows the true death figures over the last few months let alone years And it’s well more than 10 thousand As for my alleged hatred of Jews and Israel that is laughable I couldn’t give a flying fuck if someone is Buddhist Muslim Christian Jew or any other religion As for the state of Israel I’ve no problem with its existence as long it’s within the boundaries of the UN convention What I do have is a problem with is Zionist mass murdering neo fascist fuck heads And there lap dogs who want to label anyone who disagrees with there genocide As either anti semetic or a hamas apologist
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Jul 24, 2024 12:29:23 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Jul 24, 2024 12:29:23 GMT
So your irrational skewed agenda is all to see. Pointless engaging with you because nothing will change your mind. You succumb to this agenda through your underlining hatred of Israel and Jews. There has been less than 10,000 civilian deaths in Gaza since 07 Oct. Very low numbers for a war against a fully formed terror army that has turned GAZA into a defended position and actively seeks civilian casualties. For Modern Urban warfare that puts this operation well below the average for civilian deaths. IDF take more measures than most other militaries to ensure the reduction in civilian casualties. But its pointless, you and the rest of you have your agenda and work yourselves into a frenzy from Hamas propaganda. I’m not sure if your having a monumental windup Or you actually believe the complete shit your posting The world knows the true death figures over the last few months let alone years And it’s well more than 10 thousand As for my alleged hatred of Jews and Israel that is laughable I couldn’t give a flying fuck if someone is Buddhist Muslim Christian Jew or any other religion As for the state of Israel I’ve no problem with its existence as long it’s within the boundaries of the UN convention What I do have is a problem with is Zionist mass murdering neo fascist fuck heads And there lap dogs who want to label anyone who disagrees with there genocide As either anti semetic or a hamas apologist No my sources are a hell of lot more accurate than yours. But God bless you.
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