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Post by Gods on Apr 3, 2024 11:02:19 GMT
Also, Sunak.
One of his spokespeople reported he was 'appalled' by the killing of the aid workers.
Somehow the real Sunak didn't look nearly appalled enough to me!
While asking for an 'investigation' he could at least have looked a little bit angry.
This is where he misses a trick politically I think. He's basically a Goldman Sachs / masters of the universe spreadsheet man.
You need a common touch too.
That's why he'll be done and working in the USA for a 7 figure income before this year's out.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2024 12:06:12 GMT
We need more of this from journalists...excellent.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2024 16:10:03 GMT
Bloody hell....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2024 18:15:59 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Apr 3, 2024 18:47:49 GMT
We need more of this from journalists...excellent. Firstly and an important point Chanel 4 issued a clarification tonight on the false claim Mencer made that the UK Charity Medical Aid for Palestine was investigated by the UK Charities Commission. It wasn't, a complaint was made in 2018 but the Charities Commission did not undertake an investigation as it was unnecessary For those that are unaware Mencer is the former Director of Labour Friends of Israel... make of that what you will The murder of the 7 Aid Workers including 3 Brits was part of Israel's Genocidal Plan to either starve, kill or force to leave all Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. As a Military Operation it has been successful in that 33,000 mostly women and children have so far died in Bombing Raids and as a result of the 7 Aid Workers Murder many Aid Agencies have now withdrawn their personnel, some very brave Aid Workers are continuing. How many more Palestinians will die from Famine remains to be seen. One of the murdered Aid Workers was Polish and Poland has opened a Murder Investigation... The British Government is still monitoring the situation
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Post by felonious on Apr 3, 2024 19:04:08 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2024 19:08:00 GMT
Indeed, the vast majority of aid workers and journalists killed previously, were unfortunately (for them) not white Westerners ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2024 23:39:14 GMT
Braverman is a complete scumbag, as was her predecessor ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2024 0:14:10 GMT
So do we reckon he passed the interview then?
Look at Trump's body language, he is literally begging Israel to allow him to become the President of the USA ...
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Post by starkiller on Apr 4, 2024 3:46:13 GMT
This is when the British people will hopefully come to the realisation that the government cares more for Israeli money than it does for it's own people. 3 Brits dead. There was a time when this would be considered an act of war. However, now, the idea of being British has been rendered demoralised and utterly meaningless, and the people who would fight for it constantly derided, by the very same folk who now demand it acts like its old imperial self again. People need to decide, which is it?
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Apr 4, 2024 7:01:01 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 4, 2024 7:01:01 GMT
This is when the British people will hopefully come to the realisation that the government cares more for Israeli money than it does for it's own people. 3 Brits dead. There was a time when this would be considered an act of war. However, now, the idea of being British has been rendered demoralised and utterly meaningless, and the people who would fight for it constantly derided, by the very same folk who now demand it acts like its old imperial self again. People need to decide, which is it? What exactly are you saying? Do you think the UK should declare war on Israel? Unilaterally or as part of an international effort? And what is the aim of the war? To impose a puppet government on Israel? Implement a two state solution? It's impossible to decide because you haven't said what the decision actually is.
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Apr 4, 2024 8:02:00 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2024 8:02:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 11:10:31 GMT
This is the common way of politicians. Don’t just tell one lie, tell five. Get bots to spread even more. Get other bots to argue with them. Confuse the situation, remove the clarity and move on.
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Apr 4, 2024 11:54:49 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2024 11:54:49 GMT
So this is what the only 'democracy' in the Middle East looks like, is it?
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 4, 2024 13:19:20 GMT
So this is what the only 'democracy' in the Middle East looks like, is it? Clearly the wrong sort of Jew.
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Apr 4, 2024 14:52:39 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 4, 2024 14:52:39 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 4, 2024 14:59:12 GMT
A couple of Christian friends of mine have just returned from a holiday in Israel. They toured the country visiting religious sites. They were greeted very well by the locals they met. The main thing they observed from the war was that all the Israel hotels are over-flowing, many having far more occupants than their proper capacity. The reason was the amount of people displaced from the border regions (as happened in southern coastal England in WWII) or displaced because of their homes damaged/destroyed (as happened with many residents of major UK cities like London in WWII). They did hear some gunfire/shelling? from the North. Their guide was armed for their protection. It is wrong to tar every Israeli with the same brush. There are over a score of political parties and 10 in their parliament. Their government is no more representative of the population than the UK Tory government, of which we have had 5 different leaders in the last 10 years. No matter whether you come from the UK, US, France, Germany, or Israel you get the politicians you get. The Israel population is highly diverse like the UK's. www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 4, 2024 15:05:30 GMT
A couple of Christian friends of mine have just returned from a holiday in Israel. They toured the country visiting religious sites. They were greeted very well by the locals they met. The main thing they observed from the war was that all the Israel hotels are over-flowing, many having far more occupants than their proper capacity. The reason was the amount of people displaced from the border regions (as happened in southern coastal England in WWII) or displaced because of their homes damaged/destroyed (as happened with many residents of major UK cities like London in WWII). They did hear some gunfire/shelling? from the North. Their guide was armed for their protection. It is wrong to tar every Israeli with the same brush. There are over a score of political parties and 10 in their parliament. Their government is no more representative of the population than the UK Tory government, of which we have had 5 different leaders in the last 10 years. No matter whether you come from the UK, US, France, Germany, or Israel you get the politicians you get. The Israel population is highly diverse like the UK's. www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/I'm not sure anyone has tarred every Israeli with the same brush have they?
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Post by foster on Apr 4, 2024 15:22:46 GMT
A couple of Christian friends of mine have just returned from a holiday in Israel. They toured the country visiting religious sites. They were greeted very well by the locals they met. The main thing they observed from the war was that all the Israel hotels are over-flowing, many having far more occupants than their proper capacity. The reason was the amount of people displaced from the border regions (as happened in southern coastal England in WWII) or displaced because of their homes damaged/destroyed (as happened with many residents of major UK cities like London in WWII). They did hear some gunfire/shelling? from the North. Their guide was armed for their protection. It is wrong to tar every Israeli with the same brush. There are over a score of political parties and 10 in their parliament. Their government is no more representative of the population than the UK Tory government, of which we have had 5 different leaders in the last 10 years. No matter whether you come from the UK, US, France, Germany, or Israel you get the politicians you get. The Israel population is highly diverse like the UK's. www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/I'm not sure anyone has tarred every Israeli with the same brush have they? No they haven't. Just some random bollocks spilled by St Coke. To be fair, at least it distracts him from the Brexit thread. yeah, I know someone who's Jewish and they're alright, shame on you anti-semites.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2024 15:40:45 GMT
At least one Tory has had the balls to stand up and be counted.
Far more courage shown here than anybody on the opposition benches, I might add.
No doubt he's going to probably lose the whip now but sometimes you have to stand up for the truth and draw a line in the sand, fair play to him for doing so, a very brave man! đź‘Ź
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 4, 2024 16:06:23 GMT
At least one Tory has had the balls to stand up and be counted. Far more courage shown here than anybody on the opposition benches, I might add. No doubt he's going to probably lose the whip now but sometimes you have to stand up for the truth and draw a line in the sand, fair play to him for doing so, a very brave man! đź‘Ź I think Nicholas Soames has come out and said the same thing as well......
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2024 16:50:39 GMT
And then it's HE who ends up being investigated! 🤦‍♂️
Meanwhile ...
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Post by gawa on Apr 4, 2024 16:57:46 GMT
More and more people are opening their eyes to the weaponisation of antisemitism.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 4, 2024 17:32:27 GMT
More and more people are opening their eyes to the weaponisation of antisemitism. There is some shocking shit going on at the moment that undermines our country's democracy. I'm no Brexiteer but if our sovereignty means following the will of the British people and not the will of a Middle Eastern fascist government, I'm all in. We've seen some outrageous statements and actions from the Isreal government in recent days. We should be as far away from them as possible. I'd go as far as to say that it's plausible and not conspiracy that those aid workers were knowingly killed. We should be miles away from this corrupt state.
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Post by gawa on Apr 4, 2024 17:39:20 GMT
And then it's HE who ends up being investigated! 🤦‍♂️ Meanwhile ... A key difference is of course that one was used as a racist slur to cause division. The other was part of a 2 minute interview discussing the influence of a foreign country on our policy and contained actual reasoning which goes further than "the mayor of london is a muslim". And of course the fact they didn't say "Jews control britain". One was clearly racist with no action taken. The other was plausible questions in relation to foreign influence over our politics which is now being taken out of context and smeared to avoid the line of questioning and label anyone who raises it as an antisemite.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 4, 2024 18:08:17 GMT
Utterly disgraceful to suggest anything he said was antisemetic.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 4, 2024 20:59:41 GMT
Sir Alan Duncan on reports he is being investigated by the Tory Party: "I will probably be the only person ever to be reproached for upholding his Party’s policy and for defending the principles of international law and justice in the face of others who would undermine them."
(Taken from Twitter)
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Apr 4, 2024 21:08:55 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2024 21:08:55 GMT
I’m going to talk like I’m not caring about human life for this bit. Which isn’t the case but it’s where my thinking was and is now on what I perceive to be the wider thing here.
Israel had a massive open goal to garner international sympathy and by that I mean from governments that are usually opposed to them or from the majority of the public in the world who I would argue weren’t big fans of Israel to start with.
And my God they have fucked it. I genuinely thought it would be difficult for Israel to be more hated than they were before the 7th October attack but my word they’ve done it.
If they played it right they could have done a lot but this has gone so badly.
And despite knowing that atrocities are being committed our shitehawks still back that tyrant Netanyahu. Biden has no control over him despite thinking he did and just what a shit show. And what for?
On another note If Iran isn’t bluffing it’ll be interesting to see how the Israeli defences cope about the forthcoming barrage they’re gonna get. It’s about the best art defence system in the world so will have a lot of eyes on it for lessons to be learned.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 4, 2024 21:28:11 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 4, 2024 22:34:13 GMT
I’m going to talk like I’m not caring about human life for this bit. Which isn’t the case but it’s where my thinking was and is now on what I perceive to be the wider thing here. Israel had a massive open goal to garner international sympathy and by that I mean from governments that are usually opposed to them or from the majority of the public in the world who I would argue weren’t big fans of Israel to start with. And my God they have fucked it. I genuinely thought it would be difficult for Israel to be more hated than they were before the 7th October attack but my word they’ve done it. If they played it right they could have done a lot but this has gone so badly. And despite knowing that atrocities are being committed our shitehawks still back that tyrant Netanyahu. Biden has no control over him despite thinking he did and just what a shit show. And what for? On another note If Iran isn’t bluffing it’ll be interesting to see how the Israeli defences cope about the forthcoming barrage they’re gonna get. It’s about the best art defence system in the world so will have a lot of eyes on it for lessons to be learned. Fair play to you for changing your position slightly based on how things have transversed. Agree with alot of that.
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