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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 12, 2024 1:29:32 GMT
"We will take YOUR lands ..."
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2024 8:36:51 GMT
If people aren’t prepared to be outraged about the current situation in Rafah then they can’t have a shred of humanity. I’m just speechless……
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2024 8:38:17 GMT
If people aren’t prepared to be outraged about the current situation in Rafah then they can’t have a shred of humanity. I’m just speechless…… Likewise mate....never known anything like this.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 12, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
And we’re not doing a thing to stop it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2024 12:23:17 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 12, 2024 12:34:16 GMT
"We will take YOUR lands ..." Some of them would feel at home in the Waffen SS. Fucking bastards! OS.
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Post by stokeson on Feb 12, 2024 12:45:50 GMT
Talk about winning a battle and losing a war. Israel Will suffer for this for two generations.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 12, 2024 12:57:29 GMT
"We will take YOUR lands ..." Some of them would feel at home in the Waffen SS. Fucking bastards! OS. It's happening all over again but this time, the world is completely aware that it's taking place.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 12, 2024 12:59:00 GMT
And we’re not doing a thing to stop it. We're actually doing the opposite ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2024 19:49:32 GMT
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Post by gawa on Feb 12, 2024 20:09:39 GMT
Another day another lie.
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Post by Davef on Feb 12, 2024 21:09:11 GMT
Louis Har was taken hostage on October 7th along with four members of his family. Two of them were released at the end of November as part of the ceasefire agreement and Louis Har was rescued today. The Times of Israel story is simply an update of the story about his two family members being released.
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Post by Gods on Feb 12, 2024 21:37:49 GMT
"We will take YOUR lands ..." Some of them would feel at home in the Waffen SS. Fucking bastards! OS. Yes, absolute scum.
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Post by gawa on Feb 12, 2024 21:52:37 GMT
Louis Har was taken hostage on October 7th along with four members of his family. Two of them were released at the end of November as part of the ceasefire agreement and Louis Har was rescued today. The Times of Israel story is simply an update of the story about his two family members being released. Well done Dave. Unlucky others. Was testing you all.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 13, 2024 20:04:29 GMT
I've wanted to post for a while my feelings on the current state of affairs.....but I have had trouble trying to find the words to express what I am trying to say. I don't want to be presumptuous at all but I am sure a few feel the same.
I belong to " the West".
The " West " is currently supporting Genocide.
It seems to me that it is as clear as it could ever be that all the spokespeople/leaders of the West , be it the UK, the EU or the US , are turning a blind eye to what is happening......more than this , allowing Genocide to appease .....who?....not just Zionists in my opinion......it seems as though there is a hidden, secret collusion of those in power who have set the agenda. Ordinary people are in despair, outraged, impotent ( please can someone explain this better than me).
As someone has said in a previous post , as the power of Nazi Germany built up in the 30's and 40's , it now seems understandable how it happened as "the world" looked on....who are the " world " , Ordinary powerless people, who are the decision makers?
Given the thread about Starmer being shit and the thread about this government being incompetentand shambles, never in my lifetime have I felt so much that there is a complete breakdown of a system that calls itself " democratic ". For whatever reasons it simply isn't. I honestly believe that I don't think there is hardly anyone who really believes in the main two or three parties....and those that do are clinging to some sort of warped view of traditional, outdated, class loyalty.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 13, 2024 20:07:17 GMT
I've wanted to post for a while my feelings on the current state of affairs.....but I have had trouble trying to find the words to express what I am trying to say. I don't want to be presumptuous at all but I am sure a few feel the same. I belong to " the West". The " West " is currently supporting Genocide. It seems to me that it is as clear as it could ever be that all the spokespeople/leaders of the West , be it the UK, the EU or the US , are turning a blind eye to what is happening......more than this , allowing Genocide to appease .....who?....not just Zionists in my opinion......it seems as though there is a hidden, secret collusion of those in power who have set the agenda. Ordinary people are in despair, outraged, impotent ( please can someone explain this better than me). As someone has said in a previous post , as the power of Nazi Germany built up in the 30's and 40's , it now seems understandable how it happened as "the world" looked on....who are the " world " , Ordinary powerless people, who are the decision makers? Given the thread about Starmer being shit and the thread about this government being incompetentand shambles, never in my lifetime have I felt so much that there is a complete breakdown of a system thst calls itself " democratic ". For whatever reasons it simply isn't. I honestly believe that I don't think there is hardly anyone who really believes in the main two or three parties....and those that do are clinging to some sort of warped view of traditional, outdated, class loyalty. Follow the money
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 14, 2024 1:28:13 GMT
Christ alive, I can't work out whether she is simply pig ignorant, or an unhinged, racist psychopath ...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 14, 2024 7:45:27 GMT
I've wanted to post for a while my feelings on the current state of affairs.....but I have had trouble trying to find the words to express what I am trying to say. I don't want to be presumptuous at all but I am sure a few feel the same. I belong to " the West". The " West " is currently supporting Genocide. It seems to me that it is as clear as it could ever be that all the spokespeople/leaders of the West , be it the UK, the EU or the US , are turning a blind eye to what is happening......more than this , allowing Genocide to appease .....who?....not just Zionists in my opinion......it seems as though there is a hidden, secret collusion of those in power who have set the agenda. Ordinary people are in despair, outraged, impotent ( please can someone explain this better than me). As someone has said in a previous post , as the power of Nazi Germany built up in the 30's and 40's , it now seems understandable how it happened as "the world" looked on....who are the " world " , Ordinary powerless people, who are the decision makers? Given the thread about Starmer being shit and the thread about this government being incompetentand shambles, never in my lifetime have I felt so much that there is a complete breakdown of a system that calls itself " democratic ". For whatever reasons it simply isn't. I honestly believe that I don't think there is hardly anyone who really believes in the main two or three parties....and those that do are clinging to some sort of warped view of traditional, outdated, class loyalty. A ridiculously low election turn out, with the left of Labour and right of the Tories splitting from parties in disarray would shake up the political landscape. It won’t happen as too many MP’s are frightened of losing their seats on the gravy train, but it should……
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 14, 2024 8:12:58 GMT
I've wanted to post for a while my feelings on the current state of affairs.....but I have had trouble trying to find the words to express what I am trying to say. I don't want to be presumptuous at all but I am sure a few feel the same. I belong to " the West". The " West " is currently supporting Genocide. It seems to me that it is as clear as it could ever be that all the spokespeople/leaders of the West , be it the UK, the EU or the US , are turning a blind eye to what is happening......more than this , allowing Genocide to appease .....who?....not just Zionists in my opinion......it seems as though there is a hidden, secret collusion of those in power who have set the agenda. Ordinary people are in despair, outraged, impotent ( please can someone explain this better than me). As someone has said in a previous post , as the power of Nazi Germany built up in the 30's and 40's , it now seems understandable how it happened as "the world" looked on....who are the " world " , Ordinary powerless people, who are the decision makers? Given the thread about Starmer being shit and the thread about this government being incompetentand shambles, never in my lifetime have I felt so much that there is a complete breakdown of a system that calls itself " democratic ". For whatever reasons it simply isn't. I honestly believe that I don't think there is hardly anyone who really believes in the main two or three parties....and those that do are clinging to some sort of warped view of traditional, outdated, class loyalty. A ridiculously low election turn out, with the left of Labour and right of the Tories splitting from parties in disarray would shake up the political landscape. It won’t happen as too many MP’s are frightened of losing their seats on the gravy train, but it should…… I think you are correct....it won't happen. If there was a very low turn out the main parties would simply interpret it as " We have been sent a clear message, we need to start listening to the electorate " .....and then things would continue as they were...until the next "event"/ issue or election. If the more "extreme" left or right broke away , they would remain as an irrelevant sideshow....and may actually do the established parties and media a favour....the British electorate would not vote for them in any sufficient numbers. It would give the intellectual politicians, observers and amateur commentators something to talk about and debate though, particularly on social media, as though that makes a difference, except perhaps satisfying a need in them, to be heard, to express their opinion, to vent their anger and to show everyone that they are angry. For me we do need political change....without it nothing will really change. That would be my priority at an election. Electoral reform and abolition of the H of L. The main parties will never do that. I think it can only actually happen on the back of some other seismic event.....unfortunately I don't think we would have had the welfare state if it had not been for the second world war. For me, I can't vote for the main three parties, so it will have to be Reform, given the opportunity, knowing of course thst they are unlikely to win anything. It does not mean that I like everything they stand for ( that's the problem with parties politics , there becomes a presumption that loyalty to the party is more important than anything else, even when the party have in reality left the people behind). If Reform achieved Political reform ( absolutely just as unlikely as any other way forward), I would not be the slightest bit bothered if they went into oblivion and smaller parties such as the Greens has a bigger voice. Obviously cue the abuse of the personalities involved...." Let's stick to the totally incompetent, corrupt and unethical instesd" We don't have to vote Labour or Tory.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 14, 2024 8:27:33 GMT
A ridiculously low election turn out, with the left of Labour and right of the Tories splitting from parties in disarray would shake up the political landscape. It won’t happen as too many MP’s are frightened of losing their seats on the gravy train, but it should…… I think you are correct....it won't happen. If there was a very low turn out the main parties would simply interpret it as " We have been sent a clear message, we need to start listening to the electorate " .....and then things would continue as they were...until the next "event"/ issue or election. If the more "extreme" left or right broke away , they would remain as an irrelevant sideshow....and may actually do the established parties and media a favour....the British electorate would not vote for them in any sufficient numbers. It would give the intellectual politicians, observers and amateur commentators something to talk about and debate though, particularly on social media, as though thst makes a difference, except perhaps satisfying a need in them. For me we do need political change....without it nothing will really change. That would be my priority at an election. Electoral reform and abolition of the H of L. The main parties will never do that. I think it can only actually happen on the back of some other seismic event.....unfortunately I don't think we would have had the welfare state if it had not been for the second world war. For me, I can't vote for the main three parties, so it will have to be Reform, given the opportunity, knowing of course thst they are unlikely to win anything. It does not mean that I like everything they stand for ( that's the problem with parties politics , there becomes a presumption that loyalty to the party is more important than anything else, even when the party have in reality left the people behind). If Reform achieved Political reform ( absolutely just as unlikely as any other way forward), I would not be the slightest bit bothered if they went into oblivion and smaller parties such as the Greens has a bigger voice. Obviously cue the abuse of the personalities involved...." Let's stick to the totally incompetent, corrupt and unethical instesd" We don't have to vote Labour or Tory. Top post. I feel politically homeless too. Tories - Corrupt and only in it for themselves. Labour - Though I prefer them with Starmer at the helm to Corbyn I’m not convinced him being the new PM will lead us to a brave new world and that things may only improve slightly when radical change is needed. I don’t remember ever feeling so detached from the government and feeling that they don’t represent me at all. 6 things that as a British citizen I expect from my government - honesty and integrity - good public services - a government that cares about doing the right thing for the right reasons - to be rewarded for hard work - to feel safe and to keep crime low - to have immigration (particularly illegal) under some sort of control and to know exactly who’s coming into our country and to not allow those who are a risk in. To process visa applications in rapidly and properly. They’ve failed on all for me.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 14, 2024 10:29:01 GMT
I think you are correct....it won't happen. If there was a very low turn out the main parties would simply interpret it as " We have been sent a clear message, we need to start listening to the electorate " .....and then things would continue as they were...until the next "event"/ issue or election. If the more "extreme" left or right broke away , they would remain as an irrelevant sideshow....and may actually do the established parties and media a favour....the British electorate would not vote for them in any sufficient numbers. It would give the intellectual politicians, observers and amateur commentators something to talk about and debate though, particularly on social media, as though thst makes a difference, except perhaps satisfying a need in them. For me we do need political change....without it nothing will really change. That would be my priority at an election. Electoral reform and abolition of the H of L. The main parties will never do that. I think it can only actually happen on the back of some other seismic event.....unfortunately I don't think we would have had the welfare state if it had not been for the second world war. For me, I can't vote for the main three parties, so it will have to be Reform, given the opportunity, knowing of course thst they are unlikely to win anything. It does not mean that I like everything they stand for ( that's the problem with parties politics , there becomes a presumption that loyalty to the party is more important than anything else, even when the party have in reality left the people behind). If Reform achieved Political reform ( absolutely just as unlikely as any other way forward), I would not be the slightest bit bothered if they went into oblivion and smaller parties such as the Greens has a bigger voice. Obviously cue the abuse of the personalities involved...." Let's stick to the totally incompetent, corrupt and unethical instesd" We don't have to vote Labour or Tory. Top post. I feel politically homeless too. Tories - Corrupt and only in it for themselves. Labour - Though I prefer them with Starmer at the helm to Corbyn I’m not convinced him being the new PM will lead us to a brave new world and that things may only improve slightly when radical change is needed. I don’t remember ever feeling so detached from the government and feeling that they don’t represent me at all. 5 things that as a British citizen I expect from my government - honesty and integrity - good public services - a government that cares about doing the right thing for the right reasons - to be rewarded for hard work - to feel safe and to have immigration under some sort of control They’ve failed on all 5 for me. Isn't that six rather than five Cobs? In that, isn't your last one, two completely separate wishes, or do you feel that immigration is the specific reason for your sense of a lack of safety?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 14, 2024 12:49:05 GMT
Top post. I feel politically homeless too. Tories - Corrupt and only in it for themselves. Labour - Though I prefer them with Starmer at the helm to Corbyn I’m not convinced him being the new PM will lead us to a brave new world and that things may only improve slightly when radical change is needed. I don’t remember ever feeling so detached from the government and feeling that they don’t represent me at all. 5 things that as a British citizen I expect from my government - honesty and integrity - good public services - a government that cares about doing the right thing for the right reasons - to be rewarded for hard work - to feel safe and to have immigration under some sort of control They’ve failed on all 5 for me. Isn't that six rather than five Cobs? In that, isn't your last one, two completely separate wishes, or do you feel that immigration is the specific reason for your sense of a lack of safety? amended.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 14, 2024 16:44:59 GMT
Top post. I feel politically homeless too. Tories - Corrupt and only in it for themselves. Labour - Though I prefer them with Starmer at the helm to Corbyn I’m not convinced him being the new PM will lead us to a brave new world and that things may only improve slightly when radical change is needed. I don’t remember ever feeling so detached from the government and feeling that they don’t represent me at all. 5 things that as a British citizen I expect from my government - honesty and integrity - good public services - a government that cares about doing the right thing for the right reasons - to be rewarded for hard work - to feel safe and to have immigration under some sort of control They’ve failed on all 5 for me. Isn't that six rather than five Cobs? In that, isn't your last one, two completely separate wishes, or do you feel that immigration is the specific reason for your sense of a lack of safety? Well I defo feel less safe because we seem to have no idea if we have terrorists arriving here and disappearing into the night. Probably labels me a racist, ah well I can handle that.
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Post by gawa on Feb 14, 2024 18:03:20 GMT
Isn't that six rather than five Cobs? In that, isn't your last one, two completely separate wishes, or do you feel that immigration is the specific reason for your sense of a lack of safety? Well I defo feel less safe because we seem to have no idea if we have terrorists arriving here and disappearing into the night. Probably labels me a racist, ah well I can handle that. It's the natives which worry me where I live. We don't have anywhere near as many immigrants though compared to the rest of the UK so of course it will be a different landscape where I live. We still have paramilitaries and stuff to contend with here. The ones in my local area do make me laugh as some of them have jumped on the anti immigration train with posters through the estate pretty much saying immigrants aren't safe in this area. Reason it makes me laugh is its paramilitaries putting this stuff up. One of the main ones behind it is just back from a 2 year stretch after beating the fuck out of his wife in the middle of the street. Him? Welcomed back with open arms. Another fella in the estate murdered an elderly man in his flat last year and drove to a local lake and dumped the body before being stopped by police after someone reported suspicious activity. Some graffiti and posts on local Facebook went up about this scum bag. All taken down and hidden as if it never happened. Why? He's in paramilitaries so they look after their own. Another one recently was a 20 year old man took advantage of a 15 year old girl with special needs and abused her. Again had paramilitary links and paid them money to stay living in the estate. We've had another 3 murders on top of the above in the last 18 months in the estate too. Makes me fucking laugh so much that these lot spam local Facebook groups and post signs on lampposts about immigrants being a danger and a threat. Yet the only ones murdering, raping and beating women are all white natives belonging to paramilitaries who are welcomed with open arms no matter what they do. I now where I live is unique and the same doesn't go for the rest of the uk but it winds me up. I'd rather have a load of immigrants than these people who think they're above the law and run our estates. At least if I've a problem with an immigrant I can tackle it head on directly with them. With these paramilitaries though you can't do anything and the police won't either. Just got to keep your head down and your mouth shut or else you and your family could be the next ones being terrorised.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 14, 2024 18:13:06 GMT
Well I defo feel less safe because we seem to have no idea if we have terrorists arriving here and disappearing into the night. Probably labels me a racist, ah well I can handle that. It's the natives which worry me where I live. We don't have anywhere near as many immigrants though compared to the rest of the UK so of course it will be a different landscape where I live. We still have paramilitaries and stuff to contend with here. The ones in my local area do make me laugh as some of them have jumped on the anti immigration train with posters through the estate pretty much saying immigrants aren't safe in this area. Reason it makes me laugh is its paramilitaries putting this stuff up. One of the main ones behind it is just back from a 2 year stretch after beating the fuck out of his wife in the middle of the street. Him? Welcomed back with open arms. Another fella in the estate murdered an elderly man in his flat last year and drove to a local lake and dumped the body before being stopped by police after someone reported suspicious activity. Some graffiti and posts on local Facebook went up about this scum bag. All taken down and hidden as if it never happened. Why? He's in paramilitaries so they look after their own. Another one recently was a 20 year old man took advantage of a 15 year old girl with special needs and abused her. Again had paramilitary links and paid them money to stay living in the estate. We've had another 3 murders on top of the above in the last 18 months in the estate too. Makes me fucking laugh so much that these lot spam local Facebook groups and post signs on lampposts about immigrants being a danger and a threat. Yet the only ones murdering, raping and beating women are all white natives belonging to paramilitaries who are welcomed with open arms no matter what they do. I now where I live is unique and the same doesn't go for the rest of the uk but it winds me up. I'd rather have a load of immigrants than these people who think they're above the law and run our estates. At least if I've a problem with an immigrant I can tackle it head on directly with them. With these paramilitaries though you can't do anything and the police won't either. Just got to keep your head down and your mouth shut or else you and your family could be the next ones being terrorised. We've more than enough scum in our native population i agree. But my point is hundreds of people who are coming in illegally and then disappearing into the shadows. And I will assure you there is plenty of scum amongst them as well. It won't be a good look if we start getting a big uptick in some of these characters committing Manchester arena type atrocities. And I dread to think what problems the USA is building up for itself with 7m border crossings this last 3 or so years. We have borders for a reason.
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Post by gawa on Feb 14, 2024 18:51:57 GMT
It's the natives which worry me where I live. We don't have anywhere near as many immigrants though compared to the rest of the UK so of course it will be a different landscape where I live. We still have paramilitaries and stuff to contend with here. The ones in my local area do make me laugh as some of them have jumped on the anti immigration train with posters through the estate pretty much saying immigrants aren't safe in this area. Reason it makes me laugh is its paramilitaries putting this stuff up. One of the main ones behind it is just back from a 2 year stretch after beating the fuck out of his wife in the middle of the street. Him? Welcomed back with open arms. Another fella in the estate murdered an elderly man in his flat last year and drove to a local lake and dumped the body before being stopped by police after someone reported suspicious activity. Some graffiti and posts on local Facebook went up about this scum bag. All taken down and hidden as if it never happened. Why? He's in paramilitaries so they look after their own. Another one recently was a 20 year old man took advantage of a 15 year old girl with special needs and abused her. Again had paramilitary links and paid them money to stay living in the estate. We've had another 3 murders on top of the above in the last 18 months in the estate too. Makes me fucking laugh so much that these lot spam local Facebook groups and post signs on lampposts about immigrants being a danger and a threat. Yet the only ones murdering, raping and beating women are all white natives belonging to paramilitaries who are welcomed with open arms no matter what they do. I now where I live is unique and the same doesn't go for the rest of the uk but it winds me up. I'd rather have a load of immigrants than these people who think they're above the law and run our estates. At least if I've a problem with an immigrant I can tackle it head on directly with them. With these paramilitaries though you can't do anything and the police won't either. Just got to keep your head down and your mouth shut or else you and your family could be the next ones being terrorised. We've more than enough scum in our native population i agree. But my point is hundreds of people who are coming in illegally and then disappearing into the shadows. And I will assure you there is plenty of scum amongst them as well. It won't be a good look if we start getting a big uptick in some of these characters committing Manchester arena type atrocities. And I dread to think what problems the USA is building up for itself with 7m border crossings this last 3 or so years. We have borders for a reason. Oh mate I'm not really disagreeing with you here. It's just more a personal anecdote from where I live. But there's huge differences between where I live and the mainland too. Sorry was just a rant
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 14, 2024 20:26:07 GMT
We've more than enough scum in our native population i agree. But my point is hundreds of people who are coming in illegally and then disappearing into the shadows. And I will assure you there is plenty of scum amongst them as well. It won't be a good look if we start getting a big uptick in some of these characters committing Manchester arena type atrocities. And I dread to think what problems the USA is building up for itself with 7m border crossings this last 3 or so years. We have borders for a reason. Oh mate I'm not really disagreeing with you here. It's just more a personal anecdote from where I live. But there's huge differences between where I live and the mainland too. Sorry was just a rant No I totally got what you were saying chief ☺
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Post by wannabee on Feb 14, 2024 20:40:18 GMT
We've more than enough scum in our native population i agree. But my point is hundreds of people who are coming in illegally and then disappearing into the shadows. And I will assure you there is plenty of scum amongst them as well. It won't be a good look if we start getting a big uptick in some of these characters committing Manchester arena type atrocities. And I dread to think what problems the USA is building up for itself with 7m border crossings this last 3 or so years. We have borders for a reason. The Manchester Bomber was born in Manchester of Libyan Heritage In fact age 16 he went to Libya to fight alongside NATO Forces including UK US and France against Gaddafi 75% of Asylum Applications are approved on initial review rising to 85% on appeal. Which suggests they have a legitimate reason to claim Asylum The problem arises on the failed applications. It's apparently beyond the capability of Home Office to detain or keep track of them. The problem also arises for those awaiting first review who opt out and Home Office has no idea where they are. Great for Government Backlog figures, potentially not great in the future.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 15, 2024 0:06:19 GMT
We've more than enough scum in our native population i agree. But my point is hundreds of people who are coming in illegally and then disappearing into the shadows. And I will assure you there is plenty of scum amongst them as well. It won't be a good look if we start getting a big uptick in some of these characters committing Manchester arena type atrocities. And I dread to think what problems the USA is building up for itself with 7m border crossings this last 3 or so years. We have borders for a reason. The Manchester Bomber was born in Manchester of Libyan Heritage In fact age 16 he went to Libya to fight alongside NATO Forces including UK US and Fnnabeerance against Gaddafi 75% of Asylum Applications are approved on initial review rising to 85% on appeal. Which suggests they have a legitimate reason to claim Asylum The problem arises on the failed applications. It's apparently beyond the capability of Home Office to detain or keep track of them. The problem also arises for those awaiting first review who opt out and Home Office has no idea where they are. Great for Government Backlog figures, potentially not great in the future. Wannabee, doesn't it highlight a deeper problem when 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, UK citizens, still find it justifiable to carry out acts of terrorism, killing children? I guess it is the UK's fault, perhaps the children who died in the Manchester bombing, that some form of integration hasn't taken place?
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Post by wannabee on Feb 15, 2024 2:46:30 GMT
The Manchester Bomber was born in Manchester of Libyan Heritage In fact age 16 he went to Libya to fight alongside NATO Forces including UK US and Fnnabeerance against Gaddafi 75% of Asylum Applications are approved on initial review rising to 85% on appeal. Which suggests they have a legitimate reason to claim Asylum The problem arises on the failed applications. It's apparently beyond the capability of Home Office to detain or keep track of them. The problem also arises for those awaiting first review who opt out and Home Office has no idea where they are. Great for Government Backlog figures, potentially not great in the future. Wannabee, doesn't it highlight a deeper problem when 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, UK citizens, still find it justifiable to carry out acts of terrorism, killing children? I guess it is the UK's fault, perhaps the children who died in the Manchester bombing, that some form of integration hasn't taken place? I think it may have a lot to do with Colonisation Not something the current UK Population have any responsibility for but it is an inherited legacy The Colonisers made no effort to integrate with the Population of the Countries they Colonised. On the contrary it was vehemently discouraged as a means to control the local population by displaying their superiority, therefore a divine right to rule. The legacy of Colonisation has given a "right of passage" to many former Colonies e.g. India, HK, West Indies, Irish etc. Most took the opportunity as Economic Migrants and were surprised to be greeted with hostility so it was unsurprising they congregated within homogeneous Communities They may have emigrated for Economic reasons but they were not divorced from events in their homeland reinforced by lack of integration led to split loyalties The first mass immigration to UK were the Protestant Hugeunots persecuted in France for their Religion. They were made very welcome. About the same time the Protestant Palatines from the German Rhineland, who I happen to be descended from, were not welcomed. The next major influx were the Jews escaping from Pogroms in Europe equally unwelcomed except by the working class in the East End of London which makes a mockery of Labour's current machinations. The next wave were the Irish and Caribbeans who were equally unwelcome. Is it any wonder that each of these diverse Ethnic Groups retreated to create their own communities within Today we have Ukrainians very welcome Refugees from other War Torn Countries like Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen etc not so much. I'm not attempting to reason why there were different reactions just stating there were. Some Groups have integrated more than others again I'm not going to reason why Undoubtedly each Group has had a positive effect on the UK but maybe it takes time for that to manifest.
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