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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 27, 2023 12:30:29 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-preston-transfer-daniel-johnson-8555417Johnson is an intelligent, technical operator who has the quality to play in the number ten or eight role effectively. His football brain is top class and the control he brings on the pitch, with that left foot, is a joy to watch when he's at his best. The Jamaica international glides around the pitch but the work rate he puts in is through the roof. He is a proper athlete with technical ability that, at times, feels beyond Championship level.
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Post by neddy on Jun 27, 2023 13:05:45 GMT
If he is our first signing then its good to compare with who we have released? Comparable to Powell? Better injury record? Is he a better player?
We will see I suppose.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 27, 2023 13:24:19 GMT
He's signing and an international!
Jamaica?
No, he's coming of his own accord!
Coat on......
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 27, 2023 13:54:33 GMT
He is one of the Preston players I've seen during the last 3-4 seasons and every time have thought this would be a useful player for us. I think he will be a regular, but even as a squad player he is much better than Clucas and Thompson. I will also say he will be much more useful than Powell who hardly could play 3 games in succession without breaking down.  I think hes pretty solid but hes coming as a starter for sure |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 27, 2023 14:30:53 GMT
If he is our first signing then its good to compare with who we have released? Comparable to Powell? Better injury record? Is he a better player? We will see I suppose. Using the FM23 database. Similar to Powell when played as an AM, not quite as good but not a lot in it. I expect he’ll be played as the more attacking of the two CMs ahead of the DM in a 433. In which case he’s better than Baker but not as good as Smallbone. So no improvement on what we had last season, but an improvement on what we’ve got for this season, not that that’s saying a lot. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 27, 2023 14:34:04 GMT
If he is our first signing then its good to compare with who we have released? Comparable to Powell? Better injury record? Is he a better player? We will see I suppose. Using the FM23 database. Similar to Powell when played as an AM, not quite as good but not a lot in it. I expect he’ll be played as the more attacking of the two CMs ahead of the DM in a 433. In which case he’s better than Baker but not as good as Smallbone. So no improvement on what we had last season, but an improvement on what we’ve got for this season, not that that’s saying a lot. Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? |
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 27, 2023 14:35:16 GMT
Using the FM23 database. Similar to Powell when played as an AM, not quite as good but not a lot in it. I expect he’ll be played as the more attacking of the two CMs ahead of the DM in a 433. In which case he’s better than Baker but not as good as Smallbone. So no improvement on what we had last season, but an improvement on what we’ve got for this season, not that that’s saying a lot. Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? Impacts shampoo budget. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 27, 2023 14:44:02 GMT
Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? Impacts shampoo budget. Is this your What3Words address? |
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Post by musik on Jun 27, 2023 14:50:33 GMT
With a name like that I thought he was from Sweden.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 14:52:47 GMT
Never felt beyond championship level when I've seen him. smells like mid table champ to me. It feels thoroughly underwhelming.
I'll reserve that judgement til I 1. see him in a Stoke shirt and 2. see him play for us.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 27, 2023 14:58:48 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-preston-transfer-daniel-johnson-8555417Johnson is an intelligent, technical operator who has the quality to play in the number ten or eight role effectively. His football brain is top class and the control he brings on the pitch, with that left foot, is a joy to watch when he's at his best. The Jamaica international glides around the pitch but the work rate he puts in is through the roof. He is a proper athlete with technical ability that, at times, feels beyond Championship level. Sounds like good stuff and a potentially useful player. Why would he be considering Stoke? |
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Post by loosestools on Jun 27, 2023 15:00:26 GMT
I like him, always impressed me when we played against Preston
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 27, 2023 15:10:22 GMT
Using the FM23 database. Similar to Powell when played as an AM, not quite as good but not a lot in it. I expect he’ll be played as the more attacking of the two CMs ahead of the DM in a 433. In which case he’s better than Baker but not as good as Smallbone. So no improvement on what we had last season, but an improvement on what we’ve got for this season, not that that’s saying a lot. Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? Apologies, I was looking at a similar but not the same role for Johnson. In the CM with an attacking role Johnson is the slightly better player. Mentally they’re similar but Johnson has superior technical attributes. Though we should bear in mind given their ages, Smallbone has plenty of time to improve and Johnson probably already declining. |
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 27, 2023 15:19:31 GMT
So what is he? a 10, 8 or 6?? Does this mean we don't have to have Smallboneidle wandering around the pitch next season? I think we should be playing him as a 10. That’s his best position based on his technical ability. My only gripe is that he isn’t too physical - very average aerial and ground duel returns - but hopefully he can make up for that with his creative output. |
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Post by beats88 on Jun 27, 2023 15:21:48 GMT
Using the FM23 database. Similar to Powell when played as an AM, not quite as good but not a lot in it. I expect he’ll be played as the more attacking of the two CMs ahead of the DM in a 433. In which case he’s better than Baker but not as good as Smallbone. So no improvement on what we had last season, but an improvement on what we’ve got for this season, not that that’s saying a lot. Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? Similar stats to Powell but a much better fitness record. That's an upgrade for me. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 27, 2023 15:25:58 GMT
So what is he? a 10, 8 or 6?? Does this mean we don't have to have Smallboneidle wandering around the pitch next season? I think we should be playing him as a 10. That’s his best position based on his technical ability. My only gripe is that he isn’t too physical - very average aerial and ground duel returns - but hopefully he can make up for that with his creative output. Best position is a 10, in simple terms. The lack of physicality shouldn’t be a problem (think Bojan!) and as long as there’s others to win headers then his height shouldn’t be a problem either. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jun 27, 2023 15:27:38 GMT
I had hoped to get a good look at him when USA played Jamaica in the Gold Cup opener, but he did not start and didn’t come on until second half stoppage time. Jamaica’s next match against Trinidad is tomorrow.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 27, 2023 15:37:28 GMT
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Post by iamstokie on Jun 27, 2023 15:37:37 GMT
Wouldn't be my pick for midfield based on ability and age, but I'm just a fat arse on a messageboard and not a pro football manager, and beggars can't be choosers in terms of numbers. We're desperate let's be honest. Ultimately if Neil wants him we have to back him and give the lad full support, which if he gives everything he will get hands down and unconditionally. Need to get the ball rolling now and hopefully this is the start of the domino effect and more quickly follow. he’s no better than what we had last season and is coming to the end of his career, his best days are gone now |
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Post by olimje on Jun 27, 2023 15:41:44 GMT
Of course you would know 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 15:47:18 GMT
I had hoped to get a good look at him when USA played Jamaica in the Gold Cup opener, but he did not start and didn’t come on until second half stoppage time. Jamaica’s next match against Trinidad is tomorrow. At least he'll be fit - that's basically a pre-season in itself. |
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Post by beats88 on Jun 27, 2023 15:48:14 GMT
Wouldn't be my pick for midfield based on ability and age, but I'm just a fat arse on a messageboard and not a pro football manager, and beggars can't be choosers in terms of numbers. We're desperate let's be honest. Ultimately if Neil wants him we have to back him and give the lad full support, which if he gives everything he will get hands down and unconditionally. Need to get the ball rolling now and hopefully this is the start of the domino effect and more quickly follow. he’s no better than what we had last season and is coming to the end of his career, his best days are gone now Well he leaves Preston with a unanimous amount of support from the Preston fans. Who is the last player we can say that about for us? They seemed to think he did a good job and they finished above us. Who exactly did we have last season who is better? Powell? for all 5 games he was available. For me he is certainly an upgrade on Thompson & Clucas and more reliable than Powell. Baker was slated by most. Lets give the guy a chance. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 27, 2023 15:48:38 GMT
I think he’s quality… Good on the ball, creates chances & knows where the onion bag is. Himself & Bowler are the 2 which I’ve always wondered why we have never gone in for them before. I'd like that Bowler lad here!!! 👍🏼 |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 27, 2023 15:51:20 GMT
Not as good as Smallbone by what metrics? Similar stats to Powell but a much better fitness record. That's an upgrade for me. Kin 'ell, I bet there's a case for Darren Anderton to have a better fitness record than Powell!!! 😁 |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 27, 2023 15:53:34 GMT
Wouldn't be my pick for midfield based on ability and age, but I'm just a fat arse on a messageboard and not a pro football manager, and beggars can't be choosers in terms of numbers. We're desperate let's be honest. Ultimately if Neil wants him we have to back him and give the lad full support, which if he gives everything he will get hands down and unconditionally. Need to get the ball rolling now and hopefully this is the start of the domino effect and more quickly follow. he’s no better than what we had last season and is coming to the end of his career, his best days are gone now "Glass half full" kinda character you are!!! 👍🏼 |
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Post by sportsman on Jun 27, 2023 15:54:22 GMT
Similar stats to Powell but a much better fitness record. That's an upgrade for me. Kin 'ell, I bet there's a case for Darren Anderton to have a better fitness record than Powell!!! 😁 There were people on here that wanted to keep him! Unbelievable Jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 15:54:22 GMT
Rock that City ffs  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 27, 2023 15:55:16 GMT
Wouldn't be my pick for midfield based on ability and age, but I'm just a fat arse on a messageboard and not a pro football manager, and beggars can't be choosers in terms of numbers. We're desperate let's be honest. Ultimately if Neil wants him we have to back him and give the lad full support, which if he gives everything he will get hands down and unconditionally. Need to get the ball rolling now and hopefully this is the start of the domino effect and more quickly follow. he’s no better than what we had last season and is coming to the end of his career, his best days are gone now Got any evidence for your claim that he is no better than what we had last season? He has a far better fitness record than Powell - and is a better goal scorer and has a better assist record than Smallbone. As regards your point about his age - he is no spring chicken but plenty of players have three or four (or even more) good years ahead of them at his age. Unless you know he is already on the decline your claim is not substantiated. If we were planning to pay a hefty fee for him his age might count against that - but, on a free with a reasonable signing on fee, he seems to be well worth signing. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jun 27, 2023 16:11:54 GMT
An interesting signing (if he joins).
31 years of age in October, seven years playing for a mid table Championship club (after promotion), circa 240 Championship appearances with a goal ratio of 1 in 5.
1. If he joins will he be a lead or squad player?
2. Does he have the quality/46 game fitness to be integral to a “real” and sustained push for the top six
Time will tell
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Post by callas12 on Jun 27, 2023 16:34:57 GMT
Wasn't it Daniel Johnson who had a set to with either Crouch or Joe Allen in a match at Deepdale in one of our first seasons back In the Champo? May have been with both of them but recall something happening & it proper kicked off..
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