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Post by glpotter on Oct 30, 2023 18:12:43 GMT
It’s a shame Evan Ferguson isn’t English
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 18:17:33 GMT
It’s a shame Evan Ferguson isn’t English jesusmcmuffin would have a meltdown if England discovered a loophole. You’re right he looks to have the lot, it’s a shame he will probably never play in a major tournament😉
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Post by chad on Oct 30, 2023 18:18:46 GMT
Toney Nketiah coming along Wilson is reliable Calvert Lewin is a good player if he can stay fit Watkins in pole after Kane would say Watkins is only 18 months younger than Kane. I could easily see Kane leading the line for England till the World Cup in 2026, by which point it would likely be too late for Watkins to really get a solid run there. Hopefully a new talent will have emerged by then to pick up the mantle long term. Tezgel ???? We can but hope
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 30, 2023 18:47:52 GMT
Jude is absolute quality, when it comes to England he has to play alongside Foden it's criminal if not. Foden has been annoyingly under used by Southgate and the last few games have proved what a pairing they can be. We need to build the team around Bellingham and Foden in my view.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Oct 30, 2023 18:56:23 GMT
A once in a generation footballer. The England team needs to be built around him. its is & has been for ages It hasn’t been for ages though, we were being saddled with having to see Bellingham on the bench while Mason ‘fucking’ Mount trotted around in his position instead for far too long. Southgate may have actually managed his England breakthrough really well in the end. I really hope we do something in the next 2 tournaments as I think the squad struggles once Kane wanes as we don’t have a good enough striker after him. Watkins and Wilson are decent, but they’re not on the level of the rest of the attacking options England have to choose from.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 30, 2023 19:00:08 GMT
Jude is absolute quality, when it comes to England he has to play alongside Foden it's criminal if not. Foden has been annoyingly under used by Southgate and the last few games have proved what a pairing they can be. We need to build the team around Bellingham and Foden in my view. I agree totally mate. Look at the Scotland game where the pair of them tore the Scots a new arsehole.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Oct 30, 2023 19:02:14 GMT
Yeah he just takes it in his stride. Same with Foden and Saka. I think they’re all just absolutely brilliant. And the talent behind them, Cole Palmer, really like the look of Noni Madueke too. He just needs to get some consistency. Plus loads more. Just a shame there’s not a good centre half there! Love Foden and particularly Saka but they don’t make the game look as easy. In any case those three are about as good as it gets for the national side and I’m looking forward to the euros I think Foden makes the game look as easy as I’ve ever seen anyone make it look. He genuinely makes it look effortless.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:03:46 GMT
Jude is absolute quality, when it comes to England he has to play alongside Foden it's criminal if not. Foden has been annoyingly under used by Southgate and the last few games have proved what a pairing they can be. We need to build the team around Bellingham and Foden in my view. Saka or Foden? It's not a straightforward decision Alternatively move Bellingham back and play Foden behind Kane but for me thats wrong, Bellingham is the best player we have and the side should be built around him if that means Foden or Saka miss out then that's how it has to be Sven tried to shoehorn all our top players in, it didn't work Rice, TAA, Bellingham that's a perfectly balanced and supremely talented midfield We will have lots of games and in a tournament it's the players who come in or come in off the bench that make the difference Foden even if he's not a guaranteed starter (absurd as that sounds) will be a key player
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:04:42 GMT
its is & has been for ages It hasn’t been for ages though, we were being saddled with having to see Bellingham on the bench while Mason ‘fucking’ Mount trotted around in his position instead for far too long. Southgate may have actually managed his England breakthrough really well in the end. I really hope we do something in the next 2 tournaments as I think the squad struggles once Kane wanes as we don’t have a good enough striker after him. Watkins and Wilson are decent, but they’re not on the level of the rest of the attacking options England have to choose from. Thats a good two years ago, Bellingham has been starting regularly for ages
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 30, 2023 19:15:02 GMT
Jude is absolute quality, when it comes to England he has to play alongside Foden it's criminal if not. Foden has been annoyingly under used by Southgate and the last few games have proved what a pairing they can be. We need to build the team around Bellingham and Foden in my view. Saka or Foden? It's not a straightforward decision Alternatively move Bellingham back and play Foden behind Kane but for me thats wrong, Bellingham is the best player we have and the side should be built around him if that means Foden or Saka miss out then that's how it has to be Sven tried to shoehorn all our top players in, it didn't work Rice, TAA, Bellingham that's a perfectly balanced and supremely talented midfield We will have lots of games and in a tournament it's the players who come in or come in off the bench that make the difference Foden even if he's not a guaranteed starter (absurd as that sounds) will be a key player Foden for me is the only player we have near to Bellingham's wavelength. Saka is a good player but for me Foden is a level above him. Kane and Foden are world class Bellingham is an elite player. All 3 need to be in the team every game.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:21:43 GMT
Saka or Foden? It's not a straightforward decision Alternatively move Bellingham back and play Foden behind Kane but for me thats wrong, Bellingham is the best player we have and the side should be built around him if that means Foden or Saka miss out then that's how it has to be Sven tried to shoehorn all our top players in, it didn't work Rice, TAA, Bellingham that's a perfectly balanced and supremely talented midfield We will have lots of games and in a tournament it's the players who come in or come in off the bench that make the difference Foden even if he's not a guaranteed starter (absurd as that sounds) will be a key player Foden for me is the only player we have near to Bellingham's wavelength. Saka is a good player but for me Foden is a level above him. Kane and Foden are world class Bellingham is an elite player. All 3 need to be in the team every game. I'd argue Sakha is more than a 'good player' Scores for England, links up really well with Kane, pace too. Very difficult to leave him out Fitness, form, the opposition will dictate of course but I think it's very close between those two It's not a problem though whichever of those two play
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 30, 2023 19:34:14 GMT
Foden for me is the only player we have near to Bellingham's wavelength. Saka is a good player but for me Foden is a level above him. Kane and Foden are world class Bellingham is an elite player. All 3 need to be in the team every game. I'd argue Sakha is more than a 'good player' Scores for England, links up really well with Kane, pace too. Very difficult to leave him out Fitness, form, the opposition will dictate of course but I think it's very close between those two It's not a problem though whichever of those two play I just think Foden is incredibly talented, the way he takes the ball and glides forward and he has brilliant vision. His intelligence and speed at which he can play is on another level to Saka. Saka is a very good player but he's nowhere near Foden.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 19:34:24 GMT
its is & has been for ages It hasn’t been for ages though, we were being saddled with having to see Bellingham on the bench while Mason ‘fucking’ Mount trotted around in his position instead for far too long. Southgate may have actually managed his England breakthrough really well in the end. I really hope we do something in the next 2 tournaments as I think the squad struggles once Kane wanes as we don’t have a good enough striker after him. Watkins and Wilson are decent, but they’re not on the level of the rest of the attacking options England have to choose from. It's almost impossible to replace harry kane. Alan shearer said once ,when he was at the top of the game ,he decided to do a harry kane and start dropping into midfield, starting the moves as well as finishing them. After the match Bobby Robson said to him , I can see where you are coming from, but you can't play half the game with your back to goal and on the half way line / in your own half . It's not going to work. You need to be focused on arriving in the box at the right time with their defender the wrong side of you. And he agreed with him. Shearer reckoned he was a tidy player himself but to play the game that harry kane does is a level up on himself at his best . It's not impossible to play like harry kane, but it very nearly is . I can't think of anyone else, who can do it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 19:34:45 GMT
Foden for me is the only player we have near to Bellingham's wavelength. Saka is a good player but for me Foden is a level above him. Kane and Foden are world class Bellingham is an elite player. All 3 need to be in the team every game. I'd argue Sakha is more than a 'good player' Scores for England, links up really well with Kane, pace too. Very difficult to leave him out Fitness, form, the opposition will dictate of course but I think it's very close between those two It's not a problem though whichever of those two play Why wouldn’t they both play at the same time?
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Oct 30, 2023 19:42:20 GMT
It hasn’t been for ages though, we were being saddled with having to see Bellingham on the bench while Mason ‘fucking’ Mount trotted around in his position instead for far too long. Southgate may have actually managed his England breakthrough really well in the end. I really hope we do something in the next 2 tournaments as I think the squad struggles once Kane wanes as we don’t have a good enough striker after him. Watkins and Wilson are decent, but they’re not on the level of the rest of the attacking options England have to choose from. It's almost impossible to replace harry kane. Alan shearer said once ,when he was at the top of the game ,he decided to do a harry kane and start dropping into midfield, starting the moves as well as finishing them. After the match Bobby Robson said to him , I can see where you are coming from, but you can't play half the game with your back to goal and on the half way line / in your own half . It's not going to work. You need to be focused on arriving in the box at the right time with their defender the wrong side of you. And he agreed with him. Shearer reckoned he was a tidy player himself but to play the game that harry kane does is a level up on himself at his best . It's not impossible to play like harry kane, but it very nearly is . I can't think of anyone else, who can do it. I agree it is going to be extremely difficult to replace him when he packs it in, thanks fully he’s continuing to be excellent and seems to get better with age. Hopefully as he gets older, he stops dropping so deep and just conserves his energy for the back of the net bit, with the players we have, he could get a load of goals without even moving. We are as likely as anyone to win the next tournament and outside of France I think we have the best squad of anyone. Shame we don’t have another top quality centre back, a Rudiger or Van Dijk type to play alongside Stones. We don’t have a stand out class keeper either but from Rice upwards we have such a depth of talent.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 19:43:05 GMT
The only trouble I find with Foden in an England shirt is he doesn’t seem to have found a position. Saka on the right is a shoo in, do we really want Foden on the left with Rashford and Grealish also vying for that position. Doesn’t seemed like Southgate is sure about what to do with him either🤔
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:45:46 GMT
I'd argue Sakha is more than a 'good player' Scores for England, links up really well with Kane, pace too. Very difficult to leave him out Fitness, form, the opposition will dictate of course but I think it's very close between those two It's not a problem though whichever of those two play Why wouldn’t they both play at the same time? Because Bellingham has to be 'number 10' Dropping him deeper to accommodate Foden is the wrong decision for me It's about finding the best team not about playing the best 11 players, that's where Sven went wrong Saka or Foden wide right Either can play on the left of course but not sure either are as good there In the event Kane is out perhaps go false 9 with Bellingham and Foden, that might be interesting?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 19:47:43 GMT
Why wouldn’t they both play at the same time? Because Bellingham has to be 'number 10' Dropping him deeper to accommodate Foden is the wrong decision for me It's about finding the best team not about playing the best 11 players, that's where Sven went wrong Saka or Foden wide right Either can play on the left of course but not sure either are as good there In the event Kane is out perhaps go false 9 with Bellingham and Foden, that might be interesting? Your last idea is funky, I’m not sure Gareth has ever or would ever consider it though. At the end of the day tournaments are a squad game, Foden is a great player to bring on as is Grealish, Rashford, Saka, Maddison etc
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Oct 30, 2023 19:48:06 GMT
The only trouble I find with Foden in an England shirt is he doesn’t seem to have found a position. Saka on the right is a shoo in, do we really want Foden on the left with Rashford and Grealish also vying for that position. Doesn’t seemed like Southgate is sure about what to do with him either🤔 Certainly against every team outside of the top 4-5 we don’t need 2 holding players, so play Rice, Foden and Bellingham, with the latter 2 interchanging for dropping deeper and making runs in to attacking areas, they’re clever enough to work together. Against the best sides we may need to drop Foden out wide or bring him on later, but I think Henderson or Phillips aren’t good enough agains those best sides to go alongside Rice, so I’d be tempted to put TAA or someone else in there in those crunch games. Rashfords pace becomes key in those games really.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 19:50:19 GMT
Why wouldn’t they both play at the same time? Because Bellingham has to be 'number 10' Dropping him deeper to accommodate Foden is the wrong decision for me It's about finding the best team not about playing the best 11 players, that's where Sven went wrong Saka or Foden wide right Either can play on the left of course but not sure either are as good there In the event Kane is out perhaps go false 9 with Bellingham and Foden, that might be interesting? Foden on the left. Especially with Rashford’s form. Grealish doesn’t come into it imo. I’d happily see him as a false 9 too. I think we’d be a better team for it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 19:50:35 GMT
The only trouble I find with Foden in an England shirt is he doesn’t seem to have found a position. Saka on the right is a shoo in, do we really want Foden on the left with Rashford and Grealish also vying for that position. Doesn’t seemed like Southgate is sure about what to do with him either🤔 Certainly against every team outside of the top 4-5 we don’t need 2 holding players, so play Rice, Foden and Bellingham, with the latter 2 interchanging for dropping deeper and making runs in to attacking areas, they’re clever enough to work together. Against the best sides we may need to drop Foden out wide or bring him on later, but I think Henderson or Phillips aren’t good enough agains those best sides to go alongside Rice, so I’d be tempted to put TAA or someone else in there in those crunch games. Rashfords pace becomes key in those games really. It’s a great problem to have let’s just hope the manager can manage it. I have my doubts
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Post by nonameface on Oct 30, 2023 19:50:41 GMT
I'd argue Sakha is more than a 'good player' Scores for England, links up really well with Kane, pace too. Very difficult to leave him out Fitness, form, the opposition will dictate of course but I think it's very close between those two It's not a problem though whichever of those two play I just think Foden is incredibly talented, the way he takes the ball and glides forward and he has brilliant vision. His intelligence and speed at which he can play is on another level to Saka. Saka is a very good player but he's nowhere near Foden. Foden is our most technical player, his touch and feel of the ball is amazing, but so far he's bottled too many chances infront of goal for both Man City and England. Saka is pretty good technically but he's a very useful goalscorer with great pace. If I had to pick one for England I'd go Saka. If I had to watch one for their skill though it would be Foden. So pleased Bellingham is developing outside of the premier League, reduced British media is only a good thing. We need to have more English players moving abroad and to not be forgotten by Southgate when they do.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 19:52:49 GMT
I just think Foden is incredibly talented, the way he takes the ball and glides forward and he has brilliant vision. His intelligence and speed at which he can play is on another level to Saka. Saka is a very good player but he's nowhere near Foden. Foden is our most technical player, his touch and feel of the ball is amazing, but so far he's bottled too many chances infront of goal for both Man City and England. Saka is pretty good technically but he's a very useful goalscorer with great pace. If I had to pick one for England I'd go Saka. If I had to watch one for their skill though it would be Foden. So pleased Bellingham is developing outside of the premier League, reduced British media is only a good thing. We need to have more English players moving abroad and to not be forgotten by Southgate when they do. History is littered with great technical players that just don’t fit a team. I hope Foden isn’t one. Saka is fantastic. And to think folk still harp on about Raheem Sterling, one of the most overrated footballers going.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:54:13 GMT
The only trouble I find with Foden in an England shirt is he doesn’t seem to have found a position. Saka on the right is a shoo in, do we really want Foden on the left with Rashford and Grealish also vying for that position. Doesn’t seemed like Southgate is sure about what to do with him either🤔 Certainly against every team outside of the top 4-5 we don’t need 2 holding players, so play Rice, Foden and Bellingham, with the latter 2 interchanging for dropping deeper and making runs in to attacking areas, they’re clever enough to work together. Against the best sides we may need to drop Foden out wide or bring him on later, but I think Henderson or Phillips aren’t good enough agains those best sides to go alongside Rice, so I’d be tempted to put TAA or someone else in there in those crunch games. Rashfords pace becomes key in those games really. I'd play TAA as regular partner for Rice Gets exposed at fullback but he can still put his foot in when required and is always looking to get on the ball Fantastic range of passing and the odd long rang goal too A fully fit on form Phillips is a good option too, he's actually quite dynamic however he's been miles off that for ages Needs a successful move on January Ward Prowse being overlooked for Gallagher I don't understand at all Can understand Henderson being in a 26 man tournament for his leadership and experience but he shouldn't be a starter without injuries/suspension Suspect Sterling will sneak in the squad to even if he isn't picked between now and the summer Excellent fullback options too
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 19:56:20 GMT
Because Bellingham has to be 'number 10' Dropping him deeper to accommodate Foden is the wrong decision for me It's about finding the best team not about playing the best 11 players, that's where Sven went wrong Saka or Foden wide right Either can play on the left of course but not sure either are as good there In the event Kane is out perhaps go false 9 with Bellingham and Foden, that might be interesting? Foden on the left. Especially with Rashford’s form. Grealish doesn’t come into it imo. I’d happily see him as a false 9 too. I think we’d be a better team for it. Grealish is first choice no question Rashford is important for games, like Italy, where we need pacy direct dribblers We wouldn't be a better team without Kane but if he's missing then it might be better than the other striker options Maybe
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 19:58:17 GMT
Foden on the left. Especially with Rashford’s form. Grealish doesn’t come into it imo. I’d happily see him as a false 9 too. I think we’d be a better team for it. Grealish is first choice no question Rashford is important for games, like Italy, where we need pacy direct dribblers We wouldn't be a better team without Kane but if he's missing then it might be better than the other striker options Maybe Can of worms opened…….
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 30, 2023 22:18:31 GMT
Certainly against every team outside of the top 4-5 we don’t need 2 holding players, so play Rice, Foden and Bellingham, with the latter 2 interchanging for dropping deeper and making runs in to attacking areas, they’re clever enough to work together. Against the best sides we may need to drop Foden out wide or bring him on later, but I think Henderson or Phillips aren’t good enough agains those best sides to go alongside Rice, so I’d be tempted to put TAA or someone else in there in those crunch games. Rashfords pace becomes key in those games really. I'd play TAA as regular partner for Rice Gets exposed at fullback but he can still put his foot in when required and is always looking to get on the ball Fantastic range of passing and the odd long rang goal too A fully fit on form Phillips is a good option too, he's actually quite dynamic however he's been miles off that for ages Needs a successful move on January Ward Prowse being overlooked for Gallagher I don't understand at all Can understand Henderson being in a 26 man tournament for his leadership and experience but he shouldn't be a starter without injuries/suspension Suspect Sterling will sneak in the squad to even if he isn't picked between now and the summer Excellent fullback options too TAA should play alongside Rice, Trent has a lot of positives for that position and he's a free kick specialist which is also useful. In tight games or games where we play teams that just defend then it brings Grealish into the mix with his ability to win free kicks around the area. Trent could become a Debruyne type player, he has many attributes to play a number of positions.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 31, 2023 0:40:28 GMT
Jude is absolute quality, when it comes to England he has to play alongside Foden it's criminal if not. Foden has been annoyingly under used by Southgate and the last few games have proved what a pairing they can be. We need to build the team around Bellingham and Foden in my view. Saka or Foden? It's not a straightforward decision Alternatively move Bellingham back and play Foden behind Kane but for me thats wrong, Bellingham is the best player we have and the side should be built around him if that means Foden or Saka miss out then that's how it has to be Sven tried to shoehorn all our top players in, it didn't work Rice, TAA, Bellingham that's a perfectly balanced and supremely talented midfield We will have lots of games and in a tournament it's the players who come in or come in off the bench that make the difference Foden even if he's not a guaranteed starter (absurd as that sounds) will be a key player Why does one of them have to miss out? --------------- -------Kane---------------- Foden-------Bellingham---------Saka ---------------Rice---------Trent----------
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 1, 2023 16:20:43 GMT
Decent player this lad…
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 1, 2023 16:24:24 GMT
As firmly ITK. I can 100% conform he is not coming in January. , hes not a cultural Pillar profile and Jared’s computer has a filter which says never heard of , and no where near good enough for the championship.
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