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Post by satoshi on Oct 29, 2023 10:50:48 GMT
At 20 years old , on a sat night. I was listening to Jugde Jules off my head in the void. This lad from down the road is scoring winners in El Classico. Fuck my life. Tbf golden at the void was tremendous šš
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 29, 2023 11:13:20 GMT
Bellingham is the first truly world class player we've produced in my lifetime. We have a player finally who could win us a world cup himself, if we build the team around him If he carries on like this heās going to be one of the best CMs in history. There Iāve said. I believe he will, heās just got such a rare, truest elite mentality, only thing thatāll stop him is injuries.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 29, 2023 11:52:46 GMT
Rolls royce of a player
Our own Zidane
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 29, 2023 12:29:52 GMT
Its hard to find a comparable player in history to be honest.
Zidane was absolute class but he didnt exactly play box-to-box and win challenges outside his own penalty area.
Bellingham can also do the nasty work, is great running on the ball - and this season we find out hes got some finishing talent on him.
I mean Brian Robson is probably most similar - maybe Michel Platini?
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Post by lordb on Oct 29, 2023 14:39:27 GMT
Its hard to find a comparable player in history to be honest. Zidane was absolute class but he didnt exactly play box-to-box and win challenges outside his own penalty area. Bellingham can also do the nasty work, is great running on the ball - and this season we find out hes got some finishing talent on him. I mean Brian Robson is probably most similar - maybe Michel Platini? I think your first line is spot on Robson and Platini both world class but very different
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 29, 2023 14:56:59 GMT
Rolls royce of a player Our own Zidane We made this comparison yesterday, I suggested he could well be better already. Obviously long term heās got to do it year after year to back that up but my point was goals. And Iāve just checked and Zidane didnāt score more than 10 league goals in a season for Juve or Real. Bellingham does all the other stuff Zidane does too. Heās phenomenal.
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Post by lordb on Oct 29, 2023 15:28:35 GMT
Rolls royce of a player Our own Zidane We made this comparison yesterday, I suggested he could well be better already. Obviously long term heās got to do it year after year to back that up but my point was goals. And Iāve just checked and Zidane didnāt score more than 10 league goals in a season for Juve or Real. Bellingham does all the other stuff Zidane does too. Heās phenomenal. Zidane dribbling and passing better But Bellingham possibly better all round player?
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 29, 2023 15:32:19 GMT
Rolls royce of a player Our own Zidane We made this comparison yesterday, I suggested he could well be better already. Obviously long term heās got to do it year after year to back that up but my point was goals. And Iāve just checked and Zidane didnāt score more than 10 league goals in a season for Juve or Real. Bellingham does all the other stuff Zidane does too. Heās phenomenal. Yeah they are not exacts, hes just the closest I could think of over the last 25 years And yeah he (JB) could well be better
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 29, 2023 16:11:09 GMT
Is there a better midfielder in the world right now? I think it's pretty much nailed on there isn't, and he's only 20 years old. If he stays injury free and keeps improving he's going to be the best midfielder this country has ever produced without debate. I just canāt compute itās the same player who stank the place out down Stoke just 3 years ago. An outrageously gifted player and England are blessed to have him. So mature aswell Moving to Dortmund was an amazing decision. They value youth development as a business model. Their club accepts it and their fans accept it. He was crap in that game but I also remember wondering what the hype was all about when a young Jordan Henderson would play against us for Sunderland as well.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 30, 2023 11:53:48 GMT
His absence during Borussia Dortmunds title choke probably increases his stature
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 11:59:59 GMT
We made this comparison yesterday, I suggested he could well be better already. Obviously long term heās got to do it year after year to back that up but my point was goals. And Iāve just checked and Zidane didnāt score more than 10 league goals in a season for Juve or Real. Bellingham does all the other stuff Zidane does too. Heās phenomenal. Yeah they are not exacts, hes just the closest I could think of over the last 25 years And yeah he (JB) could well be better Definitely not exacts but you donāt get many attacking midfielders who are also sort of box to boxers but not quite. Gerrard and Lampard were more one thing than the other and not as good. Gerrard all action, did a bit too much probably. Lampard more advanced but not as good as Bellingham defensively. And neither looked as naturally talented despite being bloody good. Kaka? Who cares, heās awesome and thatās all that matters and long May it continue.
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Post by noustie on Oct 30, 2023 12:02:31 GMT
Is there a better midfielder in the world right now? I think it's pretty much nailed on there isn't, and he's only 20 years old. If he stays injury free and keeps improving he's going to be the best midfielder this country has ever produced without debate. I just canāt compute itās the same player who stank the place out down Stoke just 3 years ago. An outrageously gifted player and England are blessed to have him. So mature aswell Remember watching that game and thinking 'he's proper over-rated wank him!' When I saw Harry Kane play for Norwich v Fulham too remember thinking he was a cart-horse who'd maybe get a few goals in the Championship. Fortunately Stoke never held it against me and I was a key member of the scouting team up to 6 months ago.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 30, 2023 13:25:55 GMT
I just canāt compute itās the same player who stank the place out down Stoke just 3 years ago. An outrageously gifted player and England are blessed to have him. So mature aswell Remember watching that game and thinking 'he's proper over-rated wank him!' When I saw Harry Kane play for Norwich v Fulham too remember thinking he was a cart-horse who'd maybe get a few goals in the Championship. Fortunately Stoke never held it against me and I was a key member of the scouting team up to 6 months ago. Yeah I thought both of those things too . On Saturday when the team was announced I also said something along the lines of 'Alex Neil is going to have some big questions to answer if and when we lose today'. There's a reason why I don't work anywhere near football and just spout meaningless opinions that more often than not are a load of shite. Fortunately, I know my own limitations and don't waste money on football bets either
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 30, 2023 15:00:31 GMT
A once in a generation footballer.
The England team needs to be built around him.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 15:41:10 GMT
A once in a generation footballer. The England team needs to be built around him. its is & has been for ages
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Oct 30, 2023 17:04:08 GMT
From an England point of view, it'll be interesting to see how Saka, Foden and Rice develop over the next couple of years as well.
If all 3 of them can improve year on year, there'll be some serious talent in that England team with Jude being the main guy.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 17:09:06 GMT
From an England point of view, it'll be interesting to see how Saka, Foden and Rice develop over the next couple of years as well. If all 3 of them can improve year on year, there'll be some serious talent in that England team with Jude being the main guy. The worry is the dearth of strikers coming through. I canāt think of one off the top of my head that stands out
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 17:09:22 GMT
From an England point of view, it'll be interesting to see how Saka, Foden and Rice develop over the next couple of years as well. If all 3 of them can improve year on year, there'll be some serious talent in that England team with Jude being the main guy. Cole Palmer, Ant Gordon & others not fare behind either serious talent in the attacking third
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Post by thornestein on Oct 30, 2023 17:11:01 GMT
From an England point of view, it'll be interesting to see how Saka, Foden and Rice develop over the next couple of years as well. If all 3 of them can improve year on year, there'll be some serious talent in that England team with Jude being the main guy. The worry is the dearth of strikers coming through. I canāt think of one off the top of my head that stands out ollie watkins
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 17:19:06 GMT
The worry is the dearth of strikers coming through. I canāt think of one off the top of my head that stands out ollie watkins Toney Nketiah coming along Wilson is reliable Calvert Lewin is a good player if he can stay fit Watkins in pole after Kane would say
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Post by walrus on Oct 30, 2023 17:25:18 GMT
Toney Nketiah coming along Wilson is reliable Calvert Lewin is a good player if he can stay fit Watkins in pole after Kane would say Watkins is only 18 months younger than Kane. I could easily see Kane leading the line for England till the World Cup in 2026, by which point it would likely be too late for Watkins to really get a solid run there. Hopefully a new talent will have emerged by then to pick up the mantle long term.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2023 17:26:35 GMT
Toney Nketiah coming along Wilson is reliable Calvert Lewin is a good player if he can stay fit Watkins in pole after Kane would say Watkins is only 18 months younger than Kane. I could easily see Kane leading the line for England till the World Cup in 2026, by which point it would likely be too late for Watkins to really get a solid run there. Hopefully a new talent will have emerged by then to pick up the mantle long term. Why would it be too late?
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Oct 30, 2023 17:28:44 GMT
I'd expect another decent enough striker to come along by that time, although Kane's style of play means he could probably still go on for a good few years.
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Post by walrus on Oct 30, 2023 17:34:54 GMT
Watkins is only 18 months younger than Kane. I could easily see Kane leading the line for England till the World Cup in 2026, by which point it would likely be too late for Watkins to really get a solid run there. Hopefully a new talent will have emerged by then to pick up the mantle long term. Why would it be too late? Heād be 32 by the time the next major tournament comes around and likely to have lost a little of the pace and sharpness heās got today so likely wonāt be seen as the Kaneās successor. Watkins and Kane are of the same generation of talent. And Kane is always going to get the nod if theyāre both fit and available, which will limit Watkinsās opportunities. Obviously itās all just speculation, who knows how things will play out? But ideally weāll see someone younger to lead the line after Kane eventually bows out. Imagine if Haaland had chosen to play for Englandā¦
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Post by cdf on Oct 30, 2023 17:51:09 GMT
Surely, at this moment in time, Jude Bellingham is the best player in the world.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 17:53:57 GMT
Surely, at this moment in time, Jude Bellingham is the best player in the world. Potentially. But heās won nothing yet has he? And then you have players like Haaland, Silva even Foden who have won loads and perform to the highest level every week. I guess it depends how you look at it. On a pure footballing level at this very moment in time, itās hard to argue against for sure.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 17:56:08 GMT
Surely, at this moment in time, Jude Bellingham is the best player in the world. Potentially. But heās won nothing yet has he? And then you have players like Haaland, Silva even Foden who have won loads and perform to the highest level every week. I guess it depends how you look at it. On a pure footballing level at this very moment in time, itās hard to argue against for sure. The best thing about him is nothing seems to faze him, he is dripping in confidence. What a player
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 17:57:27 GMT
Why would it be too late? Heād be 32 by the time the next major tournament comes around and likely to have lost a little of the pace and sharpness heās got today so likely wonāt be seen as the Kaneās successor. Watkins and Kane are of the same generation of talent. And Kane is always going to get the nod if theyāre both fit and available, which will limit Watkinsās opportunities. Obviously itās all just speculation, who knows how things will play out? But ideally weāll see someone younger to lead the line after Kane eventually bows out. Imagine if Haaland had chosen to play for Englandā¦ I agree, Ollie Watkins is not what Iād call ācoming throughā. Iām talking about young lads. The Rooneys and Owens of the world
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2023 17:59:35 GMT
Potentially. But heās won nothing yet has he? And then you have players like Haaland, Silva even Foden who have won loads and perform to the highest level every week. I guess it depends how you look at it. On a pure footballing level at this very moment in time, itās hard to argue against for sure. The best thing about him is nothing seems to faze him, he is dripping in confidence. What a player Yeah he just takes it in his stride. Same with Foden and Saka. I think theyāre all just absolutely brilliant. And the talent behind them, Cole Palmer, really like the look of Noni Madueke too. He just needs to get some consistency. Plus loads more. Just a shame thereās not a good centre half there!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2023 18:02:02 GMT
The best thing about him is nothing seems to faze him, he is dripping in confidence. What a player Yeah he just takes it in his stride. Same with Foden and Saka. I think theyāre all just absolutely brilliant. And the talent behind them, Cole Palmer, really like the look of Noni Madueke too. He just needs to get some consistency. Plus loads more. Just a shame thereās not a good centre half there! Love Foden and particularly Saka but they donāt make the game look as easy. In any case those three are about as good as it gets for the national side and Iām looking forward to the euros
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