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Post by lawrieleslie on May 11, 2023 16:07:49 GMT
He's up there as one of the worst signings we have made considering how much he cost. I'll raise you Wimmer, Imbula, Berahino. Clucas doesn't come close. Add to that Ndaiye, Afobe, Palacios….I’m sure there’s more. Just checked Etebo and looks like he’s still on our books? . |
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Post by ibby on May 11, 2023 16:40:42 GMT
Flop signing
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Post by stokeyank on May 11, 2023 18:24:56 GMT
Seems there's a curse on players at stoke who are picked for player of the season. McClean, Clucas, Powell all got it and all either are or were soon persona non grata at Stoke. I can't remember who won last year. Perhaps he's already gone. The only person to win that award and go on to greater things is Pottermus. Also shows how clueless people are about players and choosing a Player of the Season. I'm no football expert but I can tell you I didn't vote for any of them! (I also didn't vote for Wilmont  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 11, 2023 18:35:07 GMT
Time for a montage. Some cracking goals early on in his career with us. Especially the two in that game at Barnsley.
Shame he fell off a Cliff
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Post by clarkeda on May 11, 2023 18:57:33 GMT
Don’t want get personal or owt but (there I go ) he has a player in him self but never let loose his own belief, for ever witnessing him hide in games rather than having the nounce to be available, ball at feet skill was good but coordinating him sen amongst a team was some what lacking. Whilst typing I kinda realised it ain’t just him, he just really stood out in this respect. Proper wank and will be remembered as such instead if one of them players you go ‘blimey’ I forgot about him. At least in a day an age where he can hang up his boots and not go be a PE teacher at some local school. Then again he could be just thinking he’s looked after his family🤷♂️. Rememberable no will he yeah The bit I hated most about him; he was a proper whinger. Everything was everyone else’s fault and he’d strand there flashing his fucking vaneers with his arms out. Complaining when he’s the dickhead who’s played it straight to the opposition. |
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Post by jokker on May 13, 2023 16:58:48 GMT
I was never a Clucas fan, but tell me anyway, how do you get to score 18 goals for Stoke, 10 in his best season, if you only "do well" vs those two clubs? Pretty sure that I state “after his one good(ish)” season. Yep, I checked and in the post you quoted, I said it. He scored 2 in each of his last 2 campaigns (not including the present one, where he didn’t score at all). Given that he doesn’t do much other than score, that’s pretty abysmal. What's abysmal is your characterization of a pro player as "doesn’t do much other than score". It's unfortunate that he's been injured a lot and maybe his personality doesn't help him at times, but you don't get selected by successive managers in about 400 league games if he was like what you say he is. |
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Post by kjpt140v on May 16, 2023 7:44:17 GMT
Now fuck off! Gouranga.  Stupid |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on May 16, 2023 9:43:20 GMT
Absolutely pointless thread. Your attitude is everything I despise about some of our so called fans.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 16, 2023 9:52:27 GMT
Some amazing goals in that montage, virtually all of whch I had forgotton - injury aside, primarily a failure of management to not be able to develop / maintain such potential .......not as bad a player as being made out
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Post by idle on May 16, 2023 10:05:08 GMT
Now fuck off! Gouranga. The best example I've ever seen that it's definitly not only players that lack loyalty in football. What a way to thank a player that helped us stay up after NJ was sacked. Clucas may have had three poor seasons here (marred by some bad injures), but that season he scored 11 from midfield he was as good as anyone's been since we came down from the prem. Footballers contracts are what they are, he can't help being offered too much for his services, and as some have said he even halved his wages in exchange for another year so we could make FFP regulations. Thanks for the good moments, Sam, and I'm sorry you never recovered fully from the injuries . Best of luck! |
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Post by Scfcjase on May 16, 2023 10:08:47 GMT
Time for a montage. Some cracking goals early on in his career with us. Especially the two in that game at Barnsley. Shame he fell off a Cliff Forgot how good that QPR goal was |
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Post by Pirate on May 16, 2023 10:12:17 GMT
Now fuck off! Gouranga. The best example I've ever seen that it's definitly not only players that lack loyalty in football. What a way to thank a player that helped us stay up after NJ was sacked. Clucas may have had three poor seasons here (marred by some bad injures), but that season he scored 11 from midfield he was as good as anyone's been since we came down from the prem. Footballers contracts are what they are, he can't help being offered too much for his services, and as some have said he even halved his wages in exchange for another year so we could make FFP regulations. Thanks for the good moments, Sam, and I'm sorry you never recovered fully from the injuries . Best of luck! Wee bit ironic that your username is idle & you are defending Sam Clucas |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 10:12:39 GMT
I just saw a clickbait post from the Sun talking about the former £16M player available for free.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 16, 2023 11:17:49 GMT
Pretty sure that I state “after his one good(ish)” season. Yep, I checked and in the post you quoted, I said it. He scored 2 in each of his last 2 campaigns (not including the present one, where he didn’t score at all). Given that he doesn’t do much other than score, that’s pretty abysmal. What's abysmal is your characterization of a pro player as "doesn’t do much other than score". It's unfortunate that he's been injured a lot and maybe his personality doesn't help him at times, but you don't get selected by successive managers in about 400 league games if he was like what you say he is. The majority of his games were in league one and two. Swansea bought him and he was disliked there and they were able to ship him off to us. We bought him and couldn’t get rid of him, so we played him (IMO) because we couldn’t afford a replacement given his wages. As with Baker, if he’s not scoring in the game, he’s averaging a 5/6. They both simply offer little else. |
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Post by idle on May 16, 2023 11:48:48 GMT
The best example I've ever seen that it's definitly not only players that lack loyalty in football. What a way to thank a player that helped us stay up after NJ was sacked. Clucas may have had three poor seasons here (marred by some bad injures), but that season he scored 11 from midfield he was as good as anyone's been since we came down from the prem. Footballers contracts are what they are, he can't help being offered too much for his services, and as some have said he even halved his wages in exchange for another year so we could make FFP regulations. Thanks for the good moments, Sam, and I'm sorry you never recovered fully from the injuries . Best of luck! Wee bit ironic that your username is idle & you are defending Sam Clucas Alanis Morrisette ironic or real ironic? I'm not really defending Clucas. I just think that he was good for one season, average the next and then got injured and never really got going again. It has happened to a lot of players. Average to kinda poor signing in total, but better than a whole team of players that have done fuck all after signing. But the point is that it doesn't warrant us telling him to fuck off! He's never told us that "he doesn't want to play for us", "want to play in a better league", "doesn't want to play for this manager", and all the other crap some of our players have for nt wanting to play for us. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 16, 2023 12:12:24 GMT
A fine player on his day, those days were largely constrained to a 9 month period during his time here but 19/20 he was pivotal in keeping us up.
But he sort of started badly (arrived injured and that red card at QPR was awful) and ended badly. It's been easy to forget he's even been here at times given his absences for various reasons. A good microcosm of our time since relegation, signed for a lot of money, played well in patches, out the door with a whimper.
We've had far worse players and we'll have far better ones.
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2023 14:05:22 GMT
I just saw a clickbait post from the Sun talking about the former £16M player available for free. I'm halfway between those who are slaughtering him and those who are defending but I tell you what £16m on Clucas that's insane what did we pay £6m? That was insane too |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2023 14:25:56 GMT
I just saw a clickbait post from the Sun talking about the former £16M player available for free. I'm halfway between those who are slaughtering him and those who are defending but I tell you what £16m on Clucas that's insane what did we pay £6m? That was insane too £6m on Clucas, £6m on Woods, £6m on McClean, £10m on Ince. Golden Gary's midfield. And people think he was hard done by. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 16, 2023 14:39:31 GMT
I'm halfway between those who are slaughtering him and those who are defending but I tell you what £16m on Clucas that's insane what did we pay £6m? That was insane too £6m on Clucas, £6m on Woods, £6m on McClean, £10m on Ince. Golden Gary's midfield. And people think he was hard done by. Still remember being in the car after Bolton away and him insisting that Clucas and Allen were played as "very attacking" midfielders as we failed to break down at team that hadn't kept a clean sheet for 3 months. |
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Post by pez75 on May 16, 2023 15:06:30 GMT
He's up there as one of the worst signings we have made considering how much he cost. Siri, show me an example of 'recency bias.' Been saying it for a while, it seems that in the collective memory of the Oatcake any player is remembered only as good as their last game. Plenty of other players have been sent on their way with a 2-fingered salute too, (Allen, Powell, etc) despite having more than a positive influence at the club at some time. Was never a fully paid up member of the Clucas fan club, but he wasnt always as bad as people are making out, and he rightly didnt get much of a sniff when his form dipped and now its time to go. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 16, 2023 15:18:17 GMT
Siri, show me an example of 'recency bias.' Been saying it for a while, it seems that in the collective memory of the Oatcake any player is remembered only as good as their last game. Plenty of other players have been sent on their way with a 2-fingered salute too, (Allen, Powell, etc) despite having more than a positive influence at the club at some time. Was never a fully paid up member of the Clucas fan club, but he wasnt always as bad as people are making out, and he rightly didnt get much of a sniff when his form dipped and now its time to go. I'm not sure. If you look at the video of the goals he scored, when was the last one - about two years ago? He scored some good goals and had a good season, but he was largely awful for what we paid. |
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Post by pez75 on May 16, 2023 15:23:08 GMT
Been saying it for a while, it seems that in the collective memory of the Oatcake any player is remembered only as good as their last game. Plenty of other players have been sent on their way with a 2-fingered salute too, (Allen, Powell, etc) despite having more than a positive influence at the club at some time. Was never a fully paid up member of the Clucas fan club, but he wasnt always as bad as people are making out, and he rightly didnt get much of a sniff when his form dipped and now its time to go. I'm not sure. If you look at the video of the goals he scored, when was the last one - about three seasons back? He scored some good goals and had a good season, but he was largely awful for what we paid. I dont disagree, still not sure that warrants a 'fuck off' though? As you said he had a good season and maybe a bit more. Wouldnt call it a great return for the money and I never took to him personally but I still dont view him as a complete flop. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 16, 2023 15:31:54 GMT
I'm not sure. If you look at the video of the goals he scored, when was the last one - about three seasons back? He scored some good goals and had a good season, but he was largely awful for what we paid. I dont disagree, still not sure that warrants a 'fuck off' though? As you said he had a good season and maybe a bit more. Wouldnt call it a great return for the money and I never took to him personally but I still dont view him as a complete flop. No, not a complete flop, but another who didn't repay anywhere nearly enough. Not his fault we overpaid for him, but he looked disinterested for the last two years at least. |
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Post by BlurtonRed on May 16, 2023 15:47:44 GMT
Just my opinion. For me he epitomises everything I've disliked about the last 5/6 seasons. Absolute wank apart from a 9 month spell. The rest of his time here he's been lazy, missing, shit and a big fanny. An absolute nothing of a footballer. Hopefully this summer is a chance for us too shed most of the shithouses that have been residing at this club........ I only hope AN doesn't add more
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 16, 2023 15:49:44 GMT
He can now cup his ear to someone in the Dole office.
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Post by jokker on May 16, 2023 16:28:58 GMT
What's abysmal is your characterization of a pro player as "doesn’t do much other than score". It's unfortunate that he's been injured a lot and maybe his personality doesn't help him at times, but you don't get selected by successive managers in about 400 league games if he was like what you say he is. The majority of his games were in league one and two. Swansea bought him and he was disliked there and they were able to ship him off to us. We bought him and couldn’t get rid of him, so we played him (IMO) because we couldn’t afford a replacement given his wages. As with Baker, if he’s not scoring in the game, he’s averaging a 5/6. They both simply offer little else. Apparently he was "liked" by Stoke's fanbase who voted him Player of the Season. As with practically every awardee they then promptly started "disliking" him. Apparently his worst offence is that he, like Powell, gets injured too often. As if players do that on purpose. Still regardless of where you play, whether you're liked or not, you don't get to be picked 400 times if you can't offer something useful to a team, and he did. |
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Post by iglugluk on May 16, 2023 21:18:23 GMT
Time for a montage. Some cracking goals early on in his career with us. Especially the two in that game at Barnsley. Shame he fell off a Cliff Some excellent goals there. He can really strike a ball well. Sayonara Sam |
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Post by biglad180 on May 16, 2023 21:44:53 GMT
got to love us stoke fans we slated Doughty when he played for us we slated Tommy smith both made this seasons play offs so they cannot be that bad we slated Choppa Moting who left for nowt and went on to play for 3 of europes biggest clubs after us,
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Post by Billy the kid on May 16, 2023 21:54:50 GMT
For from his biggest fan, but he cost a lot less than the likes of berihino, wimmer, jese, afobe etc and his contribution was a lot more than them combined. Glad his time at Stoke is over, but good luck and good riddance.
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Post by Billy the kid on May 16, 2023 21:55:45 GMT
got to love us stoke fans we slated Doughty when he played for us we slated Tommy smith both made this seasons play offs so they cannot be that bad we slated Choppa Moting who left for nowt and went on to play for 3 of europes biggest clubs after us, And Jack clarke |
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