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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 10, 2023 17:33:56 GMT
This is the assistant referee who allegedly elbowed Liverpool defender Robertson on the chin and now faces disciplinary action. The following quotes from BBC football website "An angry Robertson and several team-mates approached referee Paul Tierney, who booked Robertson",
Former Manchester midfielder Roy Keane described 28-year-old Robertson as a "big baby, he grabs the linesman first. Robertson should be more worried about his defending. Just get on with the game."
Finally former Premier League referee Mark Clattenburg said Robertson "initiated contact with Hatzidakis. Players can push us officials to the limit," he said. "They can provoke to the point where you are probably tempted to give them something in return. But under no circumstances can we respond. Certainly not physically. Hatzidakis did and there will now be a clamour for him to be banned but I do not think Hatzidakis meant to catch Robertson with his elbow."
So, for me the authorities should be looking more at the provocation and I don’t believe there will be a clamour to for him to be banned except by managers who have no control over their players or respect for refs anyway and I really hope that this is a catalyst to look at players provoking and surrounding match officials, though I doubt it will be. In a way PGMOL have brought this on themselves for not instructing refs to take stronger action against aggressive players surrounding officials.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 17:39:34 GMT
I just think they need to get the two of them together and hug it out. Robertson is a baby and the official shouldn’t physically contact a player.
About time some common sense ensued in football but I doubt it’ll happen any time soon
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 10, 2023 17:42:43 GMT
I just think they need to get the two of them together and hug it out. Robertson is a baby and the official shouldn’t physically contact a player. About time some common sense ensued in football but I doubt it’ll happen any time soon Can you remember when men used to be men , just saying 😁, they’ve all become Fannie’s tbh |
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Post by greystokie on Apr 10, 2023 17:44:35 GMT
From what I saw Robertson made to grab the lino from behind and the lino made to shrug it off - not knowing what might be coming next. I don't believe there was deliberate intent to elbow Robertson.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 17:45:10 GMT
I just think they need to get the two of them together and hug it out. Robertson is a baby and the official shouldn’t physically contact a player. About time some common sense ensued in football but I doubt it’ll happen any time soon Can you remember when men used to be men , just saying 😁, they’ve all become Fannie’s tbh To be honest, I’m staggered Robertson didn’t go down and claim concussion. The big baby😉 |
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Post by uknorse on Apr 10, 2023 17:49:03 GMT
This is the assistant referee who allegedly elbowed Liverpool defender Robertson on the chin and now faces disciplinary action. The following quotes from BBC football website "An angry Robertson and several team-mates approached referee Paul Tierney, who booked Robertson", Former Manchester midfielder Roy Keane described 28-year-old Robertson as a "big baby, he grabs the linesman first. Robertson should be more worried about his defending. Just get on with the game." Finally former Premier League referee Mark Clattenburg said Robertson "initiated contact with Hatzidakis. Players can push us officials to the limit," he said. "They can provoke to the point where you are probably tempted to give them something in return. But under no circumstances can we respond. Certainly not physically. Hatzidakis did and there will now be a clamour for him to be banned but I do not think Hatzidakis meant to catch Robertson with his elbow." So, for me the authorities should be looking more at the provocation and I don’t believe there will be a clamour to for him to be banned except by managers who have no control over their players or respect for refs anyway and I really hope that this is a catalyst to look at players provoking and surrounding match officials, though I doubt it will be. In a way PGMOL have brought this on themselves for not instructing refs to take stronger action against aggressive players surrounding officials. ... the biggest shock to me was the fact the kop didn't scream " penalty " when he raised his elbow |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 10, 2023 17:50:26 GMT
Robertsons gone grab him or grabbed him couldn’t tell from what I’ve seen and he’s thrown his arm up throw him off, a natural reaction as far as I’m concerned. Couldn’t have made much contact otherwise he would have been rolling around on the floor crying
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Apr 10, 2023 17:50:42 GMT
Robertson went towards the linesman clearly moaning about something as is usual for him and appeared to hold linesman arm first..Good on the lino for shrugging him off..
All through the game Henderson was in the refs face shouting at him...this is what the fa need to be stamping out.. players showing zero respect for the referee yet the powers that be do nothing.. 10 min sin bin for those that keep surrounding, screaming at the ref...that would soon stamp it out.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 17:51:51 GMT
Robertson went towards the linesman clearly moaning g about something as is usual for him and appeared to hold linesman arm first..Good on the lino for shrugging him off.. All through the game Henderson was in the refs face shouting at him...this is what the fa need to be stamping out.. players showing zero respect for the referee yet the powers that be do nothing.. 10 min sin bin for those that keep surrounding, screaming at the ref...that would soon stamp it put. I cannot think of any earthly reason why a sin in shouldn’t be introduced. What on earth are the FA, UEFA and FIFA waiting for? |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Apr 10, 2023 17:54:04 GMT
Looking forward to Robertson imploding next away game when the chants of Robertson a baby startup...his little angry face is gonna be fuming..😂🤣
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 10, 2023 17:54:08 GMT
Robertson went towards the linesman clearly moaning about something as is usual for him and appeared to hold linesman arm first..Good on the lino for shrugging him off.. All through the game Henderson was in the refs face shouting at him...this is what the fa need to be stamping out.. players showing zero respect for the referee yet the powers that be do nothing.. 10 min sin bin for those that keep surrounding, screaming at the ref...that would soon stamp it out. To be honest I’d grab some of the rugby refs and get them training the refs how to control the players. The difference in their game management is night and day, but also the punishment for dissenting the ref is black and white and adhered to |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Apr 10, 2023 17:56:58 GMT
Robertson went towards the linesman clearly moaning about something as is usual for him and appeared to hold linesman arm first..Good on the lino for shrugging him off.. All through the game Henderson was in the refs face shouting at him...this is what the fa need to be stamping out.. players showing zero respect for the referee yet the powers that be do nothing.. 10 min sin bin for those that keep surrounding, screaming at the ref...that would soon stamp it out. To be honest I’d grab some of the rugby refs and get them training the refs how to control the players. The difference in their game management is night and day, but also the punishment for dissenting the ref is black and white and adhered to I think in rugby the team loses 10 yards if they show dissent. This wouldn't help in football as teams deliberately would bring free kicks forward knowing it could reduce the threat of goal unless of course a penalty was then awarded |
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Post by milton58 on Apr 10, 2023 18:15:33 GMT
Be a minute's silence at the next Liverpool home game for Robertsons chin
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 10, 2023 18:17:11 GMT
To be honest I’d grab some of the rugby refs and get them training the refs how to control the players. The difference in their game management is night and day, but also the punishment for dissenting the ref is black and white and adhered to I think in rugby the team loses 10 yards if they show dissent. This wouldn't help in football as teams deliberately would bring free kicks forward knowing it could reduce the threat of goal unless of course a penalty was then awarded Doesn’t have to be the same it just has to be a defined and up held rescission which penalises the offenders |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 10, 2023 18:18:09 GMT
Embarrassing for Robertson. He’s such a fucking turd.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 18:19:43 GMT
Embarrassing for Robertson. He’s such a fucking turd. And Scottish to boot!😉 |
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Post by idle on Apr 10, 2023 18:25:38 GMT
Agreed, but the refs have only themselves to blame. For too long they've allowed circling the ref, calls for cards, condoning cheating by failing to properly punish divers after matches, and allowing shithousing and timewasting to the degree that matches are down to 50 minutes of playing time. This has gone on for decades now, so that any young players grow up learning that this is the way football is. Players (and the big clubs that pay them) have more power than the referees.
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Post by jokker on Apr 10, 2023 18:36:55 GMT
Guess you're all happy now that Robertson joined Hull then Liverpool and not us when he had the chance to...
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Post by onepara on Apr 10, 2023 18:44:15 GMT
He held his chin, & then said that he'd been elbowed in the neck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 18:51:32 GMT
It looked to me like Robertson grabbed his arm and he flinched back and caught him.
It’s such a pathetic non-issue.
I don’t really condone violence. However, there is a big part of me that feels that football players could do with a slap sometimes to bring them back into reality. So many of them just come across as pathetic mardarses.
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Post by franklin on Apr 10, 2023 18:51:54 GMT
The way I saw it was the player approached him in an aggressive manner and grabbed him by the arm the lino "flinched" in a natural way to shrug him off and caught him. Ban the player for manhandling the lino and that's it.
The caveat is I've only seen it once and I've not studied the footage forensically.
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Post by franklin on Apr 10, 2023 19:10:53 GMT
Robertson went towards the linesman clearly moaning about something as is usual for him and appeared to hold linesman arm first..Good on the lino for shrugging him off.. All through the game Henderson was in the refs face shouting at him...this is what the fa need to be stamping out.. players showing zero respect for the referee yet the powers that be do nothing.. 10 min sin bin for those that keep surrounding, screaming at the ref...that would soon stamp it out. Start sending them off that'll put an end to it all. All players to be informed that aggressive behaviour towards officials will not be tolerated and explain that a red card will be issued to those who try and intimidate any official. |
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 10, 2023 19:13:53 GMT
It really is a bad situation that has been allowed to be developed over a long period of time.
These spoiled brats of players have been allowed to verbally and recently border on physically abuse officials who have little or no way to defend themselves.
To attain the achievement of being able to officiate at PL level, or in particular a game of this importance takes years of dedication and hard work only to be ruined by some some idiot who thinks it’s OK to abuse a linesman, or fourth official without fear of retribution.
It’s time somebody got a grip of these morons and teach them enough is enough.
Not the first time that these sought of incidents have occurred involving Liverpool and Arsenal players and managers.
I have totally lost respect for the likes of Henderson, Klop and Arsenal in total.
If Hatzidakis career is over I just wish he had really decked him as he deserved rather than merely shrugged him off when being harassed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 19:14:22 GMT
I think in rugby the team loses 10 yards if they show dissent. This wouldn't help in football as teams deliberately would bring free kicks forward knowing it could reduce the threat of goal unless of course a penalty was then awarded Doesn’t have to be the same it just has to be a defined and up held rescission which penalises the offenders If we are considering rules from Rugby then the best to curb dissent is to only have a Captain be able to directly address the referee. Anyone else could be warned once, then booked. That just seems like a very easy thing to fix. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 19:16:08 GMT
Doesn’t have to be the same it just has to be a defined and up held rescission which penalises the offenders If we are considering rules from Rugby then the best to curb dissent is to only have a Captain be able to directly address the referee. Anyone else could be warned once, then booked. That just seems like a very easy thing to fix. The premier league introduced this some years ago and it lasted about 2 weeks. I’ve not seen anything that that rule has changed ever since🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by franklin on Apr 10, 2023 19:18:06 GMT
Doesn’t have to be the same it just has to be a defined and up held rescission which penalises the offenders If we are considering rules from Rugby then the best to curb dissent is to only have a Captain be able to directly address the referee. Anyone else could be warned once, then booked. That just seems like a very easy thing to fix. And move the throw, free kick etc 10yds for each one gobbing off also. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 19:20:11 GMT
If we are considering rules from Rugby then the best to curb dissent is to only have a Captain be able to directly address the referee. Anyone else could be warned once, then booked. That just seems like a very easy thing to fix. The premier league introduced this some years ago and it lasted about 2 weeks. I’ve not seen anything that that rule has changed ever since🤷🏻♂️ Yes, well it doesn’t help that refs are also cowards incapable of just demanding a bit of respect. That said, I’m sure that this guy is getting death threats online right now, so it can’t be that fun to be a ref either. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 10, 2023 19:23:13 GMT
The premier league introduced this some years ago and it lasted about 2 weeks. I’ve not seen anything that that rule has changed ever since🤷🏻♂️ Yes, well it doesn’t help that refs are also cowards incapable of just demanding a bit of respect. That said, I’m sure that this guy is getting death threats online right now, so it can’t be that fun to be a ref either. Another issue as you eluded to there is there is zero respect for officials in football and that won’t change anytime soon, especially with us fans ripping into em every five minutes. It’s unworkable to give them more power they’re on a hiding to nothing |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 10, 2023 19:33:26 GMT
Robertson is an absolute prick for it.
I honestly think every time a player swears at a ref or surrounds it should be a yellow. It’s getting out of hand.
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Post by wrighter on Apr 10, 2023 19:33:27 GMT
Be a minute's silence at the next Liverpool home game for Robertsons chin  |
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