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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 10:33:53 GMT
Do we need better than him next season? 100% Would we be able to play with our current intensity if he was taken out of the team? Absolutely not. Nothing yesterday was created because of Jacob Brown. Lots broke down due to Jacob Brown. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 10:39:02 GMT
Do we need better than him next season? 100% Would we be able to play with our current intensity if he was taken out of the team? Absolutely not. Nothing yesterday was created because of Jacob Brown. Lots broke down due to Jacob Brown. INTENSITY. Chances are created not necessarily by the individual but by turning the ball over high up the pitch. If anyone thinks that we could do that without Brown currently I'm not sure they fully understand the way AN is trying to set the team up............... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 10:40:28 GMT
Nothing yesterday was created because of Jacob Brown. Lots broke down due to Jacob Brown. INTENSITY. Chances are created not necessarily by the individual but by turning the ball over high up the pitch. If anyone thinks that we could do that without Brown currently I'm not sure they fully understand the way AN is trying to set the team up............... He’s created nothing with it. Gayle has. Brown hasn’t. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 10:45:32 GMT
INTENSITY. Chances are created not necessarily by the individual but by turning the ball over high up the pitch. If anyone thinks that we could do that without Brown currently I'm not sure they fully understand the way AN is trying to set the team up............... He’s created nothing with it. Gayle has. Brown hasn’t. Nope, you're still not getting it. When the front 3 press the defence leading to for example Pearson nicking the ball, Laurent picking it up, driving with it and putting it wide to Hoever that relies on players that are able to play that role for 70-90 minutes. It's not about individual assists/goals per se it's about the team creating and scoring chances which is what we're doing currently. If the front 3 was Celina, Gayle and Campbell for example the opposition would be able to play 10/20 yards further up the pitch, we become a completely different team........ |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 10:47:16 GMT
He’s created nothing with it. Gayle has. Brown hasn’t. Nope, you're still not getting it. When the front 3 press the defence leading to for example Pearson nicking the ball, Laurent picking it up, driving with it and putting it wide to Hoever that relies on players that are able to play that role for 70-90 minutes. It's not about individual assists/goals per se it's about the team creating and scoring chances which is what we're doing currently. If the front 3 was Celina, Gayle and Campbell for example the opposition would be able to play 10/20 yards further up the pitch, we become a completely different team........ I get it but he’s offering nothing with it. His pressing hasn’t led to a direct chance either. Gayles has numerous times. Gayle is the best presser we have and Campbell has been doing a great job with it too. It’d be fine. |
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Post by thestatusquo on Mar 19, 2023 10:50:19 GMT
Do we need better than him next season? 100% Would we be able to play with our current intensity if he was taken out of the team? Absolutely not. Nothing yesterday was created because of Jacob Brown. Lots broke down due to Jacob Brown. He was their best player for breaking up our play. We had a great break on and all he had to do was slip an easy ball on but managed to cock that up to. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 19, 2023 10:54:31 GMT
Brown has the potential to be our new Viv Busby next season. Best place for him. On the bench. Exactly. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 10:54:48 GMT
Nothing yesterday was created because of Jacob Brown. Lots broke down due to Jacob Brown. He was their best player for breaking up our play. We had a great break on and all he had to do was slip an easy ball on but managed to cock that up to. Yup and he does that so often. Just had to slide it in front of him and he never does. Awful awful footballer. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 11:14:21 GMT
All those chances he missed yesterday,was like Marmite gone rancid.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 11:36:27 GMT
Smallbone’s chance was the easiest yesterday by a mile. Brown’s first header was definitely the simplest of his the only defence I would have is he was stretching for the ball a bit. His effort second half was at too nice a height for the keeper……
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 19, 2023 11:42:42 GMT
Smallbone’s chance was the easiest yesterday by a mile. Brown’s first header was definitely the simplest of his the only defence I would have is he was stretching for the ball a bit. His effort second half was at too nice a height for the keeper…… A striker should be burying that header, no excuses. Like I've said previously, he seems too happy to just hit the target and hope it goes in rather than pick a spot. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 12:33:57 GMT
Smallbone’s chance was the easiest yesterday by a mile. Brown’s first header was definitely the simplest of his the only defence I would have is he was stretching for the ball a bit. His effort second half was at too nice a height for the keeper…… A striker should be burying that header, no excuses. Like I've said previously, he seems too happy to just hit the target and hope it goes in rather than pick a spot. I don’t disagree. On the flip side though who else in our team regularly gets into the type of positions he did yesterday? |
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Post by iamstokie on Mar 19, 2023 12:41:10 GMT
Brown has the potential to be our new Viv Busby next season. Excellent idea , let’s send him to America |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 19, 2023 12:44:01 GMT
A striker should be burying that header, no excuses. Like I've said previously, he seems too happy to just hit the target and hope it goes in rather than pick a spot. I don’t disagree. On the flip side though who else in our team regularly gets into the type of positions he did yesterday? Different issue that is. With the players we have available I'd still play him and pray to any footballing Gods that might exist for him to scuff one past the keeper occasionally. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 12:50:59 GMT
I don’t disagree. On the flip side though who else in our team regularly gets into the type of positions he did yesterday? Different issue that is. With the players we have available I'd still play him and pray to any footballing Gods that might exist for him to scuff one past the keeper occasionally. He has more chance of scoring by being in the position than not, that's my only point. Gayle's goals have been a deflection of his arse, a 2 yard tap in, and a scratchy header from a set piece. Since the first 6/8 games of the season I can barely remember him having a chance in the 18 yard box. That's not to say some of his link up play hasn't been good mind.......... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 19, 2023 12:54:19 GMT
A striker should be burying that header, no excuses. Like I've said previously, he seems too happy to just hit the target and hope it goes in rather than pick a spot. I don’t disagree. On the flip side though who else in our team regularly gets into the type of positions he did yesterday? He’s a striker, he should be. |
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Post by milky on Mar 19, 2023 13:04:49 GMT
I do actually like Brown but I think it's fair to say if we want to push on next season we need to be looking for a better version of him.
Someone who gives defences a hard time but a more accomplished footballer ,better decision making and with more composure in front of goal.
Whether we can find that player is another matter unless Tezgel can step up but I think it's asking too much for him to be a regular starter.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 19, 2023 13:06:10 GMT
I don’t disagree. On the flip side though who else in our team regularly gets into the type of positions he did yesterday? He’s a striker, he should be. I think he's a wide forward personally, I disagree with AN when he says he's a centre forward......... |
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Post by figo85 on Mar 19, 2023 13:18:56 GMT
You can coach any player to press a team, but when they can’t dribble, pass, shoot, header, hold up play etc, their whole game will suffer. He was truly awful yesterday.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 19, 2023 13:23:45 GMT
Let’s face it, we need a centre forward and probably another wide forward. Gayle being with us for another season doesn’t help. I’d keep Brown but not as a starter. We just don’t know what we’ll be able to bring in do we? Let’s lay off Brown as with our paucity of options up front we’ll be seeing plenty more of him.
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2023 13:44:54 GMT
Let’s face it, we need a centre forward and probably another wide forward. Gayle being with us for another season doesn’t help. I’d keep Brown but not as a starter. We just don’t know what we’ll be able to bring in do we? Let’s lay off Brown as with our paucity of options up front we’ll be seeing plenty more of him. I agree with what you're saying jg and we need to strive for improvement. But this constant criticism of Brown is unfair, his goal conversion rate is around 14% while that of Campbell is just 1% higher. The constant belittling of Jacob,on this forum, is ridiculous compared to the on-forum 'fawning' usually directed toward Campbell. |
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Post by steve66 on Mar 19, 2023 13:54:05 GMT
In fairness to JB I think he’d be first admit he’s not a centre forward but plays where he’s asked of course, most on here just saying that we need a hold up player who brings others into the game and chips in with 30 goals too 😛
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2023 14:05:28 GMT
In fairness to JB I think he’d be first admit he’s not a centre forward but plays where he’s asked of course, most on here just saying that we need a hold up player who brings others into the game and chips in with 30 goals too 😛 I couldn't agree more, the new/next John Ritchie would be perfect. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 19, 2023 15:48:24 GMT
Smallbone’s chance was the easiest yesterday by a mile. Brown’s first header was definitely the simplest of his the only defence I would have is he was stretching for the ball a bit. His effort second half was at too nice a height for the keeper…… For all the plaudits he's been getting Smallbone is a serial offender when it comes to not taking relatively simple chances. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 19, 2023 15:50:18 GMT
In fairness to JB I think he’d be first admit he’s not a centre forward but plays where he’s asked of course, most on here just saying that we need a hold up player who brings others into the game and chips in with 30 goals too 😛 Unfortunately the only time I've heard AN comment on it that's exactly what he said he was. A little bit of sick came up in the back of my mouth when I heard him say it. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 19, 2023 15:52:09 GMT
Let’s face it, we need a centre forward and probably another wide forward. Gayle being with us for another season doesn’t help. I’d keep Brown but not as a starter. We just don’t know what we’ll be able to bring in do we? Let’s lay off Brown as with our paucity of options up front we’ll be seeing plenty more of him. I agree with what you're saying jg and we need to strive for improvement. But this constant criticism of Brown is unfair, his goal conversion rate is around 14% while that of Campbell is just 1% higher. The constant belittling of Jacob,on this forum, is ridiculous compared to the on-forum 'fawning' usually directed toward Campbell. Maybe because ones a far better footballer than the other. I'll leave you to fill in the blanks. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 19, 2023 15:55:15 GMT
Not a great day at the office for him yesterday. Hope he doesn't have to deputise in the middle for long.
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2023 16:15:18 GMT
I do actually like Brown but I think it's fair to say if we want to push on next season we need to be looking for a better version of him. Someone who gives defences a hard time but a more accomplished footballer ,better decision making and with more composure in front of goal. Whether we can find that player is another matter unless Tezgel can step up but I think it's asking too much for him to be a regular starter. Yes, Yes and Yes again re Brown,it would be great to have better, but we don’t have that player at the moment. As an all-around attacker, he's definitely the best we've got. I'm thrilled (ahem🤭 in a manly way) by Campbells recent reincarnation, but he's never going to put in the yards that Jacob does. A proper hand-full of a centre forward, a la a young Fletcher, could be the making of either/both of them. |
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Post by fraybentos on Mar 19, 2023 16:29:29 GMT
He’s reminds me of a greyhound at the races, chasing the hare..you know he’s never going to catch the hare
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Post by pushon on Mar 19, 2023 16:33:00 GMT
He’s reminds me of a greyhound at the races, chasing the hare..you know he’s never going to catch the hare By the same token, if the hare wasn't chased it could just amble along. |
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