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Post by elystokie on Oct 29, 2023 13:42:39 GMT
As part of the research initial appointments (done on zoom) have been reduced to £50 and I think the price of the medicine has been reduced a bit, runs out at around £135-160 per month on average including appointment costs. Aren't there any limits? In Sweden when you've spent 1350 SEK (£100) you get a Free card for the rest of the year to see a doctor, nurse or a physioterapist. I will get mine next week. The year begins from your first paid visit. When it comes to medicine the limit is nowadays 2600 SEK (£195). When you've reached that sum you won't have to pay for the rest of the year counting from your first purchase date. No there's no limit that I'm aware of, I know of parents that pay £1500 a month for medicine to stop their children having fits, they're re-mortgaging or selling their properties to fund it. Of course the people that can't afford that either have to break the law or watch their kid suffer, what would you do in their shoes? These fits can be fatal, if it was my kid I'd rather they were illegally alive than legally dead.
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Post by musik on Oct 29, 2023 17:16:03 GMT
Aren't there any limits? In Sweden when you've spent 1350 SEK (£100) you get a Free card for the rest of the year to see a doctor, nurse or a physioterapist. I will get mine next week. The year begins from your first paid visit. When it comes to medicine the limit is nowadays 2600 SEK (£195). When you've reached that sum you won't have to pay for the rest of the year counting from your first purchase date. No there's no limit that I'm aware of, I know of parents that pay £1500 a month for medicine to stop their children having fits, they're re-mortgaging or selling their properties to fund it. Of course the people that can't afford that either have to break the law or watch their kid suffer, what would you do in their shoes? These fits can be fatal, if it was my kid I'd rather they were illegally alive than legally dead. What a fucked up society! I'm just honest now.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 29, 2023 17:40:34 GMT
No there's no limit that I'm aware of, I know of parents that pay £1500 a month for medicine to stop their children having fits, they're re-mortgaging or selling their properties to fund it. Of course the people that can't afford that either have to break the law or watch their kid suffer, what would you do in their shoes? These fits can be fatal, if it was my kid I'd rather they were illegally alive than legally dead. What a fucked up society! I'm just honest now. Just one example, there's many more just in the UK, I shudder to think how many worldwide - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-63795562They could grow their own with a bit of guidance if it was legal, a petition to allow medical cannabis patients to grow their own was rejected by parliament recently. It's needlessly cruel and completely immoral.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 1, 2023 10:35:52 GMT
This is worth a listen, under current UK law whoever supplied the oil and the mother, not to mention the kid herself, could have all faced criminal proceedings, absolutely disgusting. cannabishealthradio.com/podcast/episode-397-the-remarkable-story-of-a-little-girl-who-survived-acute-myeloid-leukemia"When she was 12 years old, River contracted acute myeloid leukemia, which is a cancer of the bone marrow and blood. She briefly underwent conventional treatment but the chemotherapy left her with no immune system and she contracted an incredibly rare fungal infection that spread to her brain and left her blind. After 11 months in the hospital and being treated with antifungals, she was sent home. Her mother administered cannabis oil and over the ensuing months she fully recovered, although she remains blind. Listen to the heartwarming story told by mother Luna and her now 16-year-old daughter, River from the UK." Another petition is running for people that agree that this ridiculous situation needs to change, urgently. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/640608Thanks in advance 🙂
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Post by elystokie on Nov 3, 2023 17:27:11 GMT
Just finished this, brilliant day, lots of good speakers and a very moving film that will hopefully be widely available soon. Bit late arriving, when I did a lady on the stage was talking about her son when he was on a paediatric oncology ward, while all the other kids on the ward were subdued and feeling ill thanks to their treatment regimes he was eating and playing as normal, so much so the other parents thought he was someone's sibling, if it doesn't seem crazy to you that his mother was breaking the law to achieve this seek help. The other thing that struck me was a discussion on epilepsy (which is the focus of the film) - apparently it's still policy that *before* even being considered for cannabis treatment epileptics have to have exhausted all other medical solutions, including brain surgery! I'd fucking love to know on what planet that makes any sense whatsoever 🤦 Apparently a video of the live stream of the event will be out soon.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 7, 2023 19:29:10 GMT
Just for Ely.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 7, 2023 20:23:55 GMT
Those were the days, don't see much hash anymore 😕
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Post by elystokie on Nov 9, 2023 7:09:26 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 9, 2023 8:02:07 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Nov 9, 2023 9:21:42 GMT
It's absolute madness LL. I've seen a few YouTube videos where medical cannabis patients have had their medication seized, one lad in Norwich had his medication taken from him in his own home, he filmed it all then filmed it again when a police officer had to return it and apologise. The last statistic I saw claimed that a third of police officers are unaware that legal prescribed medical cannabis is a thing, quite incredible. Obviously not their fault, they need information and advice, why they're not getting is a mystery.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 9, 2023 21:24:30 GMT
There's a potentially important case being heard near you (in Exeter) around mid February. It's a prosecution of someone with a personal cannabis grow and it's to be heard in Crown Court. The seedourfuture website seem to have constructed a very robust defence - www.seedourfuture.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2023/08/Evidence-Report.pdfBasically our current cannabis laws are in breach of the Human Rights Act. 'It is clear that for several decades, prior SSHD’s and the ACMD have consistently failed in their duties to utilise S7, 33 and 31 of the Act in achievement of the legitimate aims and some have even publicly admitted these failings. The classification and scheduling of controlled drugs must be based on scientific evidence and not on political motivations. The defence therefore finds that the placement of cannabis within Class B, Schedule 1 and 2 respectively is found to breach several human rights, and the measures must be viewed as ultra vires on the basis that the Misuse of Drugs Act, implicitly, does not empower the Secretary of State in collaboration with the ACMD to create regulations.contrary to human rights and so Section 6 of the HRA 1998 should be implemented in the pursuance of justice' The decision of the jury in this case could have massive implications, hopefully it will, this farce has gone on for far too long.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 14, 2023 18:06:30 GMT
Report on something to do with medical cannabis on Central TV news shortly.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 16, 2023 7:43:40 GMT
Report on something to do with medical cannabis on Central TV news shortly. Turned out to be coverage of a protest at Parliament by parents of epileptic children wanting legal access to life changing medicine for their kids. They received the usual bollocks from the health department and probably went off to the black market in order to keep their kids alive. They are obviously able to avail themselves of the zombie-behaviour inducing pharmaceuticals and/or intrusive brain surgery, but they're not allowed to try a plant that mankind has used as medicine for at least 5,000 years and has never killed anyone 🤡 Does this actually make sense to anyone?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 16, 2023 11:03:27 GMT
Report on something to do with medical cannabis on Central TV news shortly. Turned out to be coverage of a protest at Parliament by parents of epileptic children wanting legal access to life changing medicine for their kids. They received the usual bollocks from the health department and probably went off to the black market in order to keep their kids alive. They are obviously able to avail themselves of the zombie-behaviour inducing pharmaceuticals and/or intrusive brain surgery, but they're not allowed to try a plant that mankind has used as medicine for at least 5,000 years and has never killed anyone 🤡 Does this actually make sense to anyone? Makes no sense whatsoever pal. Decades and decades wasted that they could have been perfecting some of these treatments. But you'll find the pharma boys have been lobbying quietly but aggressively behind the scenes. And tories like to be seen as stricter on drugs than Labour because it keeps their voter base happy. Just another political football. Madness and sadness all in one unfortunately.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 16, 2023 11:36:38 GMT
Report on something to do with medical cannabis on Central TV news shortly. Turned out to be coverage of a protest at Parliament by parents of epileptic children wanting legal access to life changing medicine for their kids. They received the usual bollocks from the health department and probably went off to the black market in order to keep their kids alive. They are obviously able to avail themselves of the zombie-behaviour inducing pharmaceuticals and/or intrusive brain surgery, but they're not allowed to try a plant that mankind has used as medicine for at least 5,000 years and has never killed anyone 🤡 Does this actually make sense to anyone? I like your passion on the subject. Its people like you who may one day collectively force the change required 🙏
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Post by elystokie on Nov 16, 2023 12:11:42 GMT
Turned out to be coverage of a protest at Parliament by parents of epileptic children wanting legal access to life changing medicine for their kids. They received the usual bollocks from the health department and probably went off to the black market in order to keep their kids alive. They are obviously able to avail themselves of the zombie-behaviour inducing pharmaceuticals and/or intrusive brain surgery, but they're not allowed to try a plant that mankind has used as medicine for at least 5,000 years and has never killed anyone 🤡 Does this actually make sense to anyone? I like your passion on the subject. Its people like you who may one day collectively force the change required 🙏 Thank you MM, your support is very much appreciated 👍 I said to someone at the recent medical cannabis awareness gathering that it often feels like I'm banging my head against a wall. Their reply was 'yes it does, but if enough of us bang our heads against it eventually the wall will come down' 🙂 Thanks again 👌
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 16, 2023 12:36:46 GMT
I like your passion on the subject. Its people like you who may one day collectively force the change required 🙏 Thank you MM, your support is very much appreciated 👍 I said to someone at the recent medical cannabis awareness gathering that it often feels like I'm banging my head against a wall. Their reply was 'yes it does, but if enough of us bang our heads against it eventually the wall will come down' 🙂 Thanks again 👌 Keep going pal. Public sentiment i feel is already turning. Its painfully slow but I genuinely believe it is. I'd get involved myself but it wouldn't be good for my Mrs job sadly.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 16, 2023 14:08:07 GMT
Thank you MM, your support is very much appreciated 👍 I said to someone at the recent medical cannabis awareness gathering that it often feels like I'm banging my head against a wall. Their reply was 'yes it does, but if enough of us bang our heads against it eventually the wall will come down' 🙂 Thanks again 👌 Keep going pal. Public sentiment i feel is already turning. Its painfully slow but I genuinely believe it is. I'd get involved myself but it wouldn't be good for my Mrs job sadly. Understand fully mate, been in the same situation myself, I'm lucky that I no longer have any pressure in that regard and, being fully legal, I can voice my opinion wherever and whenever I like, at long last! The tanker is certainly turning, they're nearly there in the US, only a matter of time before common sense breaks out in the UK, still gutting that so many have to suffer in the meantime, obviously. I've been trying to get my head around the government's position on it and how the cannabis laws are in fact in breach of the Human Rights Act 1998 and ECHR policies. If you're interested - www.seedourfuture.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2020/10/Cannabis-and-the-Law-No-Evidence-No-Crime-MASTER-v1.3.pdfBe warned, it's pretty long and in depth, of course a cannabis geek like me finds it fascinating but I'd imagine it to be a bit boring for some/most people. 🙂
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Post by elystokie on Nov 23, 2023 13:12:35 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Nov 30, 2023 13:06:28 GMT
A letter in the Telegraph from the Cannabis Industry Council urging the government to allow GPs to prescribe medical cannabis, ridiculous that they aren't already given the far, far more dangerous drugs they're currently allowed to prescribe - 'The Government is inadvertently fuelling social harm across the UK as a result of its medical cannabis policies. This is because existing regulations are driving up to 1.8 million patients eligible for prescription cannabis into the £2 billion illicit market every year. The current law states that only specialist doctors can legally initiate medical cannabis prescriptions. The costs of private medical cannabis prescriptions can be prohibitive, especially for those who may be on low incomes or disability benefits. The result is that less affluent prospective patients instead turn to the illicit market, where they are exposed to a host of health and legal risks. There are media reports indicating that the illicit market is increasingly controlled by Albanian organised criminals. Drug-related profits from illicit cannabis sales are extremely harmful to society and are directly linked to human trafficking, money laundering, and the purchase of illegal firearms. One meaningful change to correct the situation would be for the Government to amend the law to allow GPs to prescribe medical cannabis to their patients, rather than it being the preserve of specialists only. This would tackle the low number of prescribers, reduce stigma and broaden awareness among doctors and patients.' ENDS The letter was signed by a range of industry leaders, doctors, scientists, think tankers, and academics, as follows: Jamie Bartley, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Dr Callie Seaman, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Professor Mike Barnes , Honorary President, Cannabis Industry Council Professor David Nutt, Founder, Drug Science Hannah Deacon, Executive Director, Medical Cannabis Clinicians Society Dr Leon Barron, Chair, Medical Cannabis Clinicians Society Maxwell Marlow, Director of Research, Adam Smith Institute Christopher Snowdon, Head of Lifestyle Economics, Institute of Economic Affairs Mike Morgan-Giles, CEO, Cannabis Industry Council Dr Sunil Arora, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Prescription Cannabis Working Group James Smith, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Prescription Cannabis Working Group Dr Shanna Marrinan, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Research and Science Working Group Elisabetta Faenza, Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Standards Working Group Sam Cannon, Co-Chair, Cannabis Industry Council ESG Working Group Gareth Dundee, Vice Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Ireland Working Group Kirsty Morrison, Vice Chair, Cannabis Industry Council Prescription Cannabis Working Group Dr Dani Gordon, specialist medical practitioner Dr Niraj Singh, specialist medical practitioner Dr Elizabeth Iveson, specialist medical practitioner Dr Rebecca Moore, specialist medical practitioner Dr Evan Lewis, specialist medical practitioner Dr Helen Beckett Wilson, Liverpool John Moores University Dr Lindsey Metcalf McGrath, Liverpool John Moores University Professor Mike Hough, Birkbeck, University of London Rayyan Zafar, Imperial College London Paul North, Director, Volteface Marika Graham-Woods, Executive Director, Cannabis Trades Association Alex Piot, Director of Research, Centre for Evidence Based Drug Policy www.cicouncil.org.uk/gps-prescribing-can-improve-public-safety/
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2023 14:42:44 GMT
You're doing a great job Robbie. I'm with you all the way and many more people are going with me. I'm with music on this one... we are a fucked up society.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 30, 2023 15:15:05 GMT
You're doing a great job Robbie. I'm with you all the way and many more people are going with me. I'm with music on this one... we are a fucked up society. M. Cheers Mick, hope you're well mate 💚
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2023 20:16:13 GMT
You're doing a great job Robbie. I'm with you all the way and many more people are going with me. I'm with music on this one... we are a fucked up society. M. Cheers Mick, hope you're well mate 💚 Still not quite recovered from my illness in March but am feeling much better, thanks. BTW, how do they administer cannabis to children without smoking it? Another thing, if they made it legal they could treat it as they would alcohol if caught driving with it in their system. A simple roadside test would soon sort it so the argument that driving with it still in their blood is negated. I think it's the biggest waste of police time going and I'm sure the police do too. I'm angry at the intransigence of those who oppose it. I know people who smoke it regularly and they don't come home from the pub and beat their wives and kids up either. In fact the opposite. They just chill out and don't bother anybody. Whatever, good luck with your efforts. M.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 30, 2023 21:21:42 GMT
Cheers Mick, hope you're well mate 💚 Still not quite recovered from my illness in March but am feeling much better, thanks. BTW, how do they administer cannabis to children without smoking it? Another thing, if they made it legal they could treat it as they would alcohol if caught driving with it in their system. A simple roadside test would soon sort it so the argument that driving with it still in their blood is negated. I think it's the biggest waste of police time going and I'm sure the police do too. I'm angry at the intransigence of those who oppose it. I know people who smoke it regularly and they don't come home from the pub and beat their wives and kids up either. In fact the opposite. They just chill out and don't bother anybody. Whatever, good luck with your efforts. M. Glad to hear you're getting back to normal mate 👍 It's usually administered to children via oil under the tongue using a plastic syringe, very small doses, about a grain of rice worth at a time. The problem with roadside testing and blood testing is the amount of time cannabinoids take to leave the body, unlike alcohol which is gone within 24 hours, THC can be detected for up to 30 days. It has to be based on some sort of impairment test for me, the current limits take no account of the tolerance of regular cannabis users. For comparison, the legal driving limit for methamphetamine is around 5 times the level that would indicate a normal dose due to it also being a prescription drug I believe. That's exactly it! Any trouble is usually caused by people that have drank alcohol and yet the consumption of that is widely tolerated, but oh no, you can't have that stuff that chills you out! It's absolutely mind-blowing! Just watched Police Interceptors - yet again an inordinate amount of time spent investigating production or consumption of it, never ever what they've done as a result of using it 🤷 Emperor wears no clothes mate, amazing how many people still refuse to see it 😐
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Post by elystokie on Dec 23, 2023 7:35:10 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jan 23, 2024 13:49:21 GMT
Doncaster cannabis club owner aims to break drug's 'stigma'. Be interesting to see how this turns out, I've met the guy that runs the Teeside one, great guy, seems they get left alone there. I gather (only anecdotally to be fair) that The Chillin' Rooms in Liverpool is open again, despite the owner's continued incarceration, however all the 'servers' wear balaclava's while they're working 😄 What a ridiculous situation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68055040
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Post by marylandstoke on Jan 23, 2024 14:09:57 GMT
Doncaster cannabis club owner aims to break drug's 'stigma'. Be interesting to see how this turns out, I've met the guy that runs the Teeside one, great guy, seems they get left alone there. I gather (only anecdotally to be fair) that The Chillin' Rooms in Liverpool is open again, despite the owner's continued incarceration, however all the 'servers' wear balaclava's while they're working 😄 What a ridiculous situation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68055040
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Post by elystokie on Feb 12, 2024 7:34:49 GMT
This bloke, like many others across the UK, is struggling to afford his cannabis prescription and medication. To have people suffering like this is just downright cruel and is a direct result of our ridiculous cannabis prohibition laws that are based on no scientific evidence whatsoever. ukcannabisnews.co.uk/cost-of-living-support/“Medical cannabis is the only real solution to this because everything else has been taken off the table,” he says. “If I have to come off it now, I may not have access to the medications that I was on before, I’ll be straight back to screaming again, to not being able to move, to be bedridden for days at a time, unable to sleep because my muscles are in spasm.” I'm sure he's relieved that Victoria Atkins, who's husband was legally growing (and exporting all of it) medical cannabis in the UK under a 'special research licence' whilst she was drugs minister, is now the health minister 🤦🤡
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2024 9:26:14 GMT
Cannabis Industry Council signs Armed Forces Covenant - cannabishealthnews.co.uk/2024/01/30/cannabis-bosses-support-veterans-to-access-vital-medicines/?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content'A pilot study on 22 veterans found PTSD scores reduced from an average of 67.9 to 34.5 (a score of 50 is considered significant for PTSD). They also reported improvements in sleep, anxiety and chronic pain. The number of daily medications that patients were taking also reduced from an average of eight to an average of three and, as a result, so did the negative side-effects of those medications, which include gastrointestinal issues, brain fog, erectile dysfunction, sedation, increased anxiety and suicide ideation.' The sad thing being that the drugs causing these negative side effects would be free or very much cheaper than cannabis medication and that is the case largely (possibly solely) due to our ludicrous cannabis prohibition laws 😡
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 19, 2024 11:20:14 GMT
Doncaster cannabis club owner aims to break drug's 'stigma'. Be interesting to see how this turns out, I've met the guy that runs the Teeside one, great guy, seems they get left alone there. I gather (only anecdotally to be fair) that The Chillin' Rooms in Liverpool is open again, despite the owner's continued incarceration, however all the 'servers' wear balaclava's while they're working 😄 What a ridiculous situation. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68055040There is only one place in Stoke where you can go and smoke marijuana and have a beer that I know of anyway.And to my knowledge zero in Liverpool or Manchester. But with all things like this there is always the potential for a bust.
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