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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2023 9:53:43 GMT
Government still dragging their heels on allowing more patients to access medical cannabis, I suppose it'll be a race to see if they can somehow make more of their mates some money before they're shipped out 🤷🏻 cannabishealthnews.co.uk/2023/09/01/home-affairs-committee-calls-for-wider-nhs-access-to-medical-cannabis/?trk=feed-detail_main-feed-card_reshare_feed-article-content"Professor Mike Barnes, founder of the Medical Cannabis Clinicians Society (MCCS) and the first doctor to obtain a full licence to prescribe cannabis to Alfie Dingley in 2018, commented: “The committee report recognises the real problems of access for many people who would benefit from medicinal cannabis but who cannot access it on the NHS and cannot afford a private prescription. Let’s hope the government listens and takes action.” It's highly doubtful they will unless financially incentivised on a personal level. “The call to improve NHS access is very welcome, however we echo our community in the drug policy reform space in the view that the UK desperately needs cannabis laws reformed to reduce the criminal impact on society and protect vulnerable patients.” The National Health Service is in tatters, we need a Marijuana Health Service to run alongside it, the pharmaceutical companies would never allow it tho, they have far too much to lose 🙂
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2023 14:22:05 GMT
Petition up to 11,700 now which is fantastic!
The government now gave 5 days to respond so we'll probably hear something just before Xmas 🤦
The answer will be the stock answer they always give, cannabis is dangerous to this and to that, no credible evidence for their claims will be provided because non exists.
Anything else and I'll be shocked.
We won't get anywhere near the 100,000 required for it to be discussed by the charlatans in parliament this time but this isn't going away, hopefully the next government will be prepared to look at empirical evidence rather than being ruled by the likes of the Daily Mail.
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Post by musik on Sept 5, 2023 16:06:24 GMT
Just watched a tv program in Sweden, from nationwide The Education Radio TV broadcasting. All scientists and experts. Latest report.
A female said the most likely outcome in Sweden regarding cannabis and legalisation is this; if the rest of Europe, and even including all the Scandinavian countries as well would legalise cannabis, the chance is Sweden then would build even higher walls against it as a sort of counter attack.
They have stood behind the good policy in Sweden, while many others more and more have stood by the bad policy. She actually used those words. I'm not sure she thought so herself, it's just the picture she gave on how it has been like. A man in the 5 person panel continued by talking about the development regarding the view about cannabis (the female had presented how it had changed over time (40+ years) in Europe), and he said about the future scenario that in 50 years from now absolutely nothing will happen in Sweden in that field.
One man in the audience said you can't compare Canada with Sweden since we are two completely different type of cultures. Sweden's is based on self control. He said alcohol is one drug the Swedish society has approved leading to losing self control with its well-known consequences, and asked: how shall we tackle adding another drug on the scene, cannabis, which also leads to losing self control: how can we defend that? The people in the panel didn't understand the question at once, but the man to the right said: since this is Sweden and we talk about cannabis and legalisation, we couldn't expect anything to happen soon, so in the future we must ask ourselves "what is it we have to have control about?". We might not have to go to work, with AI and all ...
It was also interesting to hear the lawyer when he said his clients initially believe they haven't done anything criminal, but at the same time as soon as they realise they have broken the law, they understand instantly it will have huge impact on their future lives - by getting frozen out or fired, not able to apply etc. And you can't see this big turnaround in any other type of crime, so it's really a unique situation - denial, then awareness.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2023 16:53:58 GMT
Just watched a tv program in Sweden, from nationwide The Education Radio TV broadcasting. All scientists and experts. Latest report. A female said the most likely outcome in Sweden regarding cannabis and legalisation is this; if the rest of Europe, and even including all the Scandinavian countries as well would legalise cannabis, the chance is Sweden then would build even higher walls against it as a sort of counter attack. They have stood behind the good policy in Sweden, while many others more and more have stood by the bad policy. She actually used those words. I'm not sure she thought so herself, it's just the picture she gave on how it has been like. A man in the 5 person panel continued by talking about the development regarding the view about cannabis (the female had presented how it had changed over time (40+ years) in Europe), and he said about the future scenario that in 50 years from now absolutely nothing will happen in Sweden in that field. One man in the audience said you can't compare Canada with Sweden since we are two completely different type of cultures. Sweden's is based on self control. He said alcohol is one drug the Swedish society has approved leading to losing self control with its well-known consequences, and asked: how shall we tackle adding another drug on the scene, cannabis, which also leads to losing self control: how can we defend that? The people in the panel didn't understand the question at once, but the man to the right said: since this is Sweden and we talk about cannabis and legalisation, we couldn't expect anything to happen soon, so in the future we must ask ourselves "what is it we have to have control about?". We might not have to go to work, with AI and all ... It was also interesting to hear the lawyer when he said his clients initially believe they haven't done anything criminal, but at the same time as soon as they realise they have broken the law, they understand instantly it will have huge impact on their future lives - by getting frozen out or fired, not able to apply etc. And you can't see this big turnaround in any other type of crime, so it's really a unique situation - denial, then awareness. Unless they can point to empirical evidence of the harm it causes (and the US Government have spent an absolute fortune in the last 50 years trying and failing to do exactly that!) they're talking bollocks.
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 5, 2023 17:38:06 GMT
I don't think I've ever met a pot head that wasn't frazzled in the mind.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 5, 2023 18:01:08 GMT
Just watched a tv program in Sweden, from nationwide The Education Radio TV broadcasting. All scientists and experts. Latest report. A female said the most likely outcome in Sweden regarding cannabis and legalisation is this; if the rest of Europe, and even including all the Scandinavian countries as well would legalise cannabis, the chance is Sweden then would build even higher walls against it as a sort of counter attack. They have stood behind the good policy in Sweden, while many others more and more have stood by the bad policy. She actually used those words. I'm not sure she thought so herself, it's just the picture she gave on how it has been like. A man in the 5 person panel continued by talking about the development regarding the view about cannabis (the female had presented how it had changed over time (40+ years) in Europe), and he said about the future scenario that in 50 years from now absolutely nothing will happen in Sweden in that field. One man in the audience said you can't compare Canada with Sweden since we are two completely different type of cultures. Sweden's is based on self control. He said alcohol is one drug the Swedish society has approved leading to losing self control with its well-known consequences, and asked: how shall we tackle adding another drug on the scene, cannabis, which also leads to losing self control: how can we defend that? The people in the panel didn't understand the question at once, but the man to the right said: since this is Sweden and we talk about cannabis and legalisation, we couldn't expect anything to happen soon, so in the future we must ask ourselves "what is it we have to have control about?". We might not have to go to work, with AI and all ... It was also interesting to hear the lawyer when he said his clients initially believe they haven't done anything criminal, but at the same time as soon as they realise they have broken the law, they understand instantly it will have huge impact on their future lives - by getting frozen out or fired, not able to apply etc. And you can't see this big turnaround in any other type of crime, so it's really a unique situation - denial, then awareness. See if there's any of your countrymen amongst this lot musik 😃 www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/50-most-successful-marijuana-enthusiasts-you-should-know-114790/carl-sagan-116028/
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Post by stokefc on Sept 6, 2023 9:02:08 GMT
I don't think I've ever met a pot head that wasn't frazzled in the mind. You've not met many pot heads then , Jesus
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 6, 2023 9:04:05 GMT
I don't think I've ever met a pot head that wasn't frazzled in the mind. You've not met many pot heads then , Jesus Met plenty mate. I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't a druggy though.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 6, 2023 9:08:57 GMT
I don't think I've ever met a pot head that wasn't frazzled in the mind. You've not met many pot heads then , Jesus Talking of Jesus.. www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion"Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings." 😄
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Post by slippyblunger on Sept 6, 2023 9:10:21 GMT
You've not met many pot heads then , Jesus Talking of Jesus.. www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion"Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings." 😄 The Guardian 😂
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Post by elystokie on Sept 6, 2023 12:15:24 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 10, 2023 10:41:47 GMT
A bit more on Jesus 🙂
It's somewhat ironic that the Christian Church has historically denounced the use of cannabis seemingly on moral grounds seeing how, as I understand it, without the miracles Jesus would've been just another bloke and it's doubtful the church would exist at all.
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2023 11:01:33 GMT
A bit more on Jesus 🙂 It's somewhat ironic that the Christian Church has historically denounced the use of cannabis seemingly on moral grounds seeing how, as I understand it, without the miracles Jesus would've been just another bloke and it's doubtful the church would exist at all. What does "on moral grounds" mean? The video is blocked for age reasons. Hmm.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 10, 2023 11:37:02 GMT
A bit more on Jesus 🙂 It's somewhat ironic that the Christian Church has historically denounced the use of cannabis seemingly on moral grounds seeing how, as I understand it, without the miracles Jesus would've been just another bloke and it's doubtful the church would exist at all. What does "on moral grounds" mean? The video is blocked for age reasons. Hmm. It's blocked because it's a drug I imagine, in the US where it's legal you probably have to be at least 18 to buy it, older in some states. In the UK there is no such age restriction, dealers don't care. Here's a bit about Christian morality, to me it means imposing your values onto others without their consent even when the behaviour those others exhibit harms no-one else. newlife.bible/article/what-is-morality/I would say that since cannabis is proven to help people live longer and healthier prohibiting people's use of it is definitely immoral.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 10, 2023 11:46:05 GMT
I genuinely have no idea how to tell if these videos are age restricted or not, I'll see if this one is visible to people without an account, not specifically about Jesus but still very relevant.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 10, 2023 20:14:51 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 19, 2023 15:07:19 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 20, 2023 7:38:30 GMT
This is interesting, bloke over the road from me suffers terribly from glaucoma, concerning to think he and many others are denied relief from this terrible condition purely because of our ridiculous outdated prohibition laws (that to be brutally honest were never actually 'in date'). How can anyone justify this level of ridiculous? "Amazingly, ancient Egyptian doctors are known to have used cannabis salves on the eyes to treat glaucoma and sores as early as 2,000 years ago." cannabiscreative.blog/2021/02/24/the-history-of-cannabis-2/
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Post by elystokie on Sept 21, 2023 6:08:28 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 23, 2023 20:09:45 GMT
Quite an interesting interaction at the blood donation place this week. On the questionnaire you have to fill in beforehand you have to state whether you've had sex with a new partner when under the influence of illegal drugs except cannabis and knob pills, not bothered about them apparently. I mentioned the cannabis prescription when talking to the nurse that takes the blood sample and she said she'd better ask the Sister, who herself after a quick chat, had to ask the manager, there was no problem, I'd have been very surprised if there was. Bit bizarre, illegal cannabis is ok but we have to check on people who are getting it legally, one of the two is far more likely to have passed through some quality control... They're always after donors if anyone can spare some, apparently SOT folk are particularly generous so it might be a few weeks before an appointment is available. Free coffee and KitKat is the reward and if you don't know your blood type they'll tell you 🙂 www.blood.co.uk/
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2023 20:33:48 GMT
Quite an interesting interaction at the blood donation place this week. On the questionnaire you have to fill in beforehand you have to state whether you've had sex with a new partner when under the influence of illegal drugs except cannabis and knob pills, not bothered about them apparently. I mentioned the cannabis prescription when talking to the nurse that takes the blood sample and she said she'd better ask the Sister, who herself after a quick chat, had to ask the manager, there was no problem, I'd have been very surprised if there was. Bit bizarre, illegal cannabis is ok but we have to check on people who are getting it legally, one of the two is far more likely to have passed through some quality control... They're always after donors if anyone can spare some, apparently SOT folk are particularly generous so it might be a few weeks before an appointment is available. Free coffee and KitKat is the reward and if you don't know your blood type they'll tell you 🙂 www.blood.co.uk/I give blood fairly regularly up anley duck but sometimes they say I can’t go because there are too many🤷🏻♂️
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Post by elystokie on Sept 23, 2023 20:39:58 GMT
Quite an interesting interaction at the blood donation place this week. On the questionnaire you have to fill in beforehand you have to state whether you've had sex with a new partner when under the influence of illegal drugs except cannabis and knob pills, not bothered about them apparently. I mentioned the cannabis prescription when talking to the nurse that takes the blood sample and she said she'd better ask the Sister, who herself after a quick chat, had to ask the manager, there was no problem, I'd have been very surprised if there was. Bit bizarre, illegal cannabis is ok but we have to check on people who are getting it legally, one of the two is far more likely to have passed through some quality control... They're always after donors if anyone can spare some, apparently SOT folk are particularly generous so it might be a few weeks before an appointment is available. Free coffee and KitKat is the reward and if you don't know your blood type they'll tell you 🙂 www.blood.co.uk/I give blood fairly regularly up anley duck but sometimes they say I can’t go because there are too many🤷🏻♂️ I go to Shelton, didn't know about the Hanley one, bit closer and a change of scenery, I'll look into it 🙂
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Post by musik on Sept 23, 2023 21:10:08 GMT
Free coffee and KitKat is the reward and if you don't know your blood type they'll tell you 🙂 I saw here once there are a lot of diseases mentioned and a lot of medicine mentioned, that prevents you from the possibility to give blood. Must be the same over there? I asked the nurse here what my blood type is. She said: you should know that! Me: Why? She: Your mother should know your blood type. Me: She's dead. She: I don't know how I could help you. Bit frightening.
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Post by musik on Sept 23, 2023 21:11:47 GMT
But surely there must be a test you could do at home (and perhaps send in) to get your blood type.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 23, 2023 21:21:15 GMT
Free coffee and KitKat is the reward and if you don't know your blood type they'll tell you 🙂 I saw here once there are a lot of diseases mentioned and a lot of medicine mentioned, that prevents you from the possibility to give blood. Must be the same over there? I asked the nurse here what my blood type is. She said: you should know that! Me: Why? She: Your mother should know your blood type. Me: She's dead. She: I don't know how I could help you. Bit frightening. Yes certain illnesses mean those people can't donate, the form is quite detailed. You can get kits on Amazon to tell you your blood type, they're not expensive.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 27, 2023 11:28:05 GMT
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 27, 2023 12:58:01 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 29, 2023 12:13:31 GMT
What does "on moral grounds" mean? The video is blocked for age reasons. Hmm. It's blocked because it's a drug I imagine, in the US where it's legal you probably have to be at least 18 to buy it, older in some states. In the UK there is no such age restriction, dealers don't care. Here's a bit about Christian morality, to me it means imposing your values onto others without their consent even when the behaviour those others exhibit harms no-one else. newlife.bible/article/what-is-morality/I would say that since cannabis is proven to help people live longer and healthier prohibiting people's use of it is definitely immoral. Let me explain how I think Christians are arguing here: When using you do harm God. But first, when you say "harms noone else", do you mean the user is harmed? If so, that's enough for the Christianity patrol.
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Post by musik on Oct 29, 2023 12:19:31 GMT
As part of the research initial appointments (done on zoom) have been reduced to £50 and I think the price of the medicine has been reduced a bit, runs out at around £135-160 per month on average including appointment costs. Aren't there any limits? In Sweden when you've spent 1350 SEK (£100) you get a Free card for the rest of the year to see a doctor, nurse or a physioterapist. I will get mine next week. The year begins from your first paid visit. When it comes to medicine the limit is nowadays 2600 SEK (£195). When you've reached that sum you won't have to pay for the rest of the year counting from your first purchase date.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 29, 2023 13:28:17 GMT
It's blocked because it's a drug I imagine, in the US where it's legal you probably have to be at least 18 to buy it, older in some states. In the UK there is no such age restriction, dealers don't care. Here's a bit about Christian morality, to me it means imposing your values onto others without their consent even when the behaviour those others exhibit harms no-one else. newlife.bible/article/what-is-morality/I would say that since cannabis is proven to help people live longer and healthier prohibiting people's use of it is definitely immoral. Let me explain how I think Christians are arguing here: When using you do harm God. But first, when you say "harms noone else", do you mean the user is harmed? If so, that's enough for the Christianity patrol. Regarding the Christians - I'm not too concerned about harming something that doesn't actually exist except in someone's head. Especially given that without cannabis Jesus would've been just another bloke instead of someone that could heal people, quite the delicious irony really. There's also evidence of cannabis use in the early incense burners used by Christians, the problem arose when people wanted power within religion, they couldn't have substances around that might enable people to believe they were actually in contact with anything spiritual themselves, that might have made them somewhat redundant. Nobody suffers any permanent harm, users or not. Some that aren't used to it may experience unpleasant sensations, usually due to trying to go to quickly and/or not knowing the strength thanks to the illegality and lack of regulation/education of the substance. It can cause paranoia in some people, again a result of prohibition, the cannibinoid, CBD, that ameliorates that effect has been 'bred out' of the majority of strains. An issue that is actually valid is the smell, some people hate it, in cannabis cafes and social clubs there is often air filtration systems, those places aren't allowed during prohibition.
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