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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2022 16:47:38 GMT
Autism IS a developmental-disorder. It's literally called ASD - autism spectrum disorder... so it's perfectly appropriate (potentially slightly behind current trends) for me to refer to it as a mental-disorder. And the point I was originally making was that I believe it to be morally ambiguous (at best) that a child with ASD was thrust into the limelight. Definitely not using "mental-disorder" as some sort of slur like your eagerness to fall over yourself to correct me seemed to insinuate. If homosexuality was previously categorised as a disorder then that's unfortunate. Autism is NOT a "Mental-disorder " Autism is the normal functioning of a differently structured brain. You have correctly defined it, but you have incorrectly interpreted its meaning. Ok I get your angle. Crack on.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 30, 2022 16:54:26 GMT
This is one for Knypes thread. You don’t like being outsmarted by a young person it seems? Yeah mate intelligence in others terrifies me but at least that means we can carry on discussing this if you want? Kudos where it's due, one of the more amusing responses on here
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Post by gawa on Dec 30, 2022 16:55:15 GMT
They have already been released apparently, don’t know how true or not. Something similar happened earlier on in the year with an anonymous tip off landing him and his brother arrested for an hour for the exact same thing. There is actually a video of him made recently where he talks about him expecting to be arrested for something. Man’s got enemies What you mean by the last sentence?
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Post by knype on Dec 30, 2022 17:02:25 GMT
This is one for Knypes thread. You don’t like being outsmarted by a young person it seems? Still obsessed I see. 👏
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2022 17:14:31 GMT
It’s a doomsday cult being used to engender fear and panic amongst the masses with the intention of exploiting that fear and panic for nefarious purposes. A means of implementing policies that benefit the few. Not too dissimilar to a recent global event actually. But there are a few members on here still obsessed and fixated on covid and like to bring it up at any opportunity. This thread itself is a fine example. About a woman beater, human trafficking rapist being arrested. But some are more interested in making it about climate change. And so people fucking should fixate on Covid. And what’s coming out in the wash are some of the greatest scandals of all time. But that’s for another thread. This thread turning into a climate change debate is a response to a few people circle jerking over a political figure (and yes GT IS a political figure, this whole subject has been long since hijacked) and then suggesting anyone with criticism was “insert buzzword here”. The thread might be about Tate but it’s not that surprising that it’s gone ever so slightly off topic. You should be careful throwing unproven slander around btw. “Human trafficking rapist” not something you want to end up being wrong about. Which you probably are I’d strongly wager.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 30, 2022 18:26:06 GMT
As you say it's The Express but to be fair they do go on to give her full explanation which obviously doesn't match the headline but then again what Express readers get past the headline There are many examples of Child Prodogies who have excelled in all sorts of fields, I very much doubt Greta would consider herself one. She has never to my knowledge expounded Scientific Theories of her own moreover she publicises Scientific Theories of others more eminently qualified Her talent is her Leadership Qualities which encourages others to take on the mantle and spread the message It is why she founded Fridays for Future Movement at age 15 which is now present in 185 Countries throughout the World I know it's not the context you meant when you said you didn't agree with "Weaponising 16-18 year olds" but that is precisely what most Countries around the World do when they recruit for their Armies many to fight an "Idealogical " battle against opposing viewpoints (Is Climate Activism an Idealogical Battle?) and many at a much younger age. Personally I find having an interest and understanding of the future of the Planet a far more refreshing and worthwhile pursuit I don't buy the explanation to be honest - a teenager going on her dad's Facebook? If Marcus Rashford has a social media team I'd be amazed if GT hasn't. You can see her parents were performers and that background is obviously part of her success but a 15 year old will simply regurgitate what they're told, they dont have the facets of critical analysis, so she's merely a means of communication. I'll listen to David Attenborough all day in comparison because he has intelligence, wisdom and experience. My concern is that intelligence is being conflated with wisdom. I'm finding it increasingly concerning that society is increasingly looking for youngsters to do the heavy lifting where in any correctly functioning society seeks guidance from the elders. The naivity of youth can be exploited and can be seen throughout social media. Saving the planet is an arrogant bullshit concept because the planet is absolutely fine. What does your body do when a virus takes hold? It heats up and fucks it off. It's the human race that needs saving not the planet. Why on earth would Greta have or could afford a Social Media Team when her only source of income is her University Grant Any money she has been awarded for the Honours she has received she has donated to Charities... unless you know different. Are you seriously saying a background as an Opera singer and a minor Actor and Writer are the exact attributes need to found a worldwide Youth Movement? We obviously come from different ends of the spectrum when it comes to the effects of Climate Change or indeed whether it is even an existential threat You are projecting achievements upon Greta which she has never claimed She is not an original thinker nor inventor she is merely propagating Scientific evidence which is freely available on the Internet... unless you are a denier of course so in that respect she is intelligent and wise. In her own words she has said it's "weird" when "heterosexual, cis, white privileged middle-aged men" are threatened by children "just stating the facts" about climate change It is merely inconvenient to most people in UK that 2022 will be the warmest on record For those indigenous peoples living with drought, flooding or erosion its quiet a different matter and the fight is being taken up by Children/Young people as evidenced by the Saachi Case taken to UN. A positive outcome of increased Education for Children is that they are more informed of external factors and their human rights via Internet
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Post by superjw on Dec 30, 2022 19:32:54 GMT
They have already been released apparently, don’t know how true or not. Something similar happened earlier on in the year with an anonymous tip off landing him and his brother arrested for an hour for the exact same thing. There is actually a video of him made recently where he talks about him expecting to be arrested for something. Man’s got enemies What you mean by the last sentence? There is a video where he talks about his belief that certain people are “after him” and that his initial social media cancellation was just the start, with the next step him being arrested for something out of the blue. He considers these as warnings from powers that be against things he has/is saying
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Post by noustie on Dec 30, 2022 19:50:15 GMT
I don't buy the explanation to be honest - a teenager going on her dad's Facebook? If Marcus Rashford has a social media team I'd be amazed if GT hasn't. You can see her parents were performers and that background is obviously part of her success but a 15 year old will simply regurgitate what they're told, they dont have the facets of critical analysis, so she's merely a means of communication. I'll listen to David Attenborough all day in comparison because he has intelligence, wisdom and experience. My concern is that intelligence is being conflated with wisdom. I'm finding it increasingly concerning that society is increasingly looking for youngsters to do the heavy lifting where in any correctly functioning society seeks guidance from the elders. The naivity of youth can be exploited and can be seen throughout social media. Saving the planet is an arrogant bullshit concept because the planet is absolutely fine. What does your body do when a virus takes hold? It heats up and fucks it off. It's the human race that needs saving not the planet. Why on earth would Greta have or could afford a Social Media Team when her only source of income is her University Grant Any money she has been awarded for the Honours she has received she has donated to Charities... unless you know different. Are you seriously saying a background as an Opera singer and a minor Actor and Writer are the exact attributes need to found a worldwide Youth Movement? We obviously come from different ends of the spectrum when it comes to the effects of Climate Change or indeed whether it is even an existential threat You are projecting achievements upon Greta which she has never claimed She is not an original thinker nor inventor she is merely propagating Scientific evidence which is freely available on the Internet... unless you are a denier of course so in that respect she is intelligent and wise. In her own words she has said it's "weird" when "heterosexual, cis, white privileged middle-aged men" are threatened by children "just stating the facts" about climate change It is merely inconvenient to most people in UK that 2022 will be the warmest on record For those indigenous peoples living with drought, flooding or erosion its quiet a different matter and the fight is being taken up by Children/Young people as evidenced by the Saachi Case taken to UN. A positive outcome of increased Education for Children is that they are more informed of external factors and their human rights via Internet I'm not a climate change denier but deny we've got the ability or propensity to do anything about it. Scientists are telling us we may already have crossed the Rubicon but mankind is busy fucking about in Eastern Europe and South China sea. I've seen ESG in action and its already turning into tick box and creative accounting. You're saying she isn't an inventor nor offering anything new and I'm saying she's merely a communicator so We're on the same page. I don't believe I'm threatened by her at all really but would suggest what is even weirder would be middle aged, white 'cis', middle class men need of a teenager to regurgitate scientific theory before they'd listen - I'd just read what the relevant scientist had to say regardless of age, ethnicity, sexual preferences etc. I am threatened though by society looking to the youth for wisdom - that's just mental. The comment on her parents wasn't around money but oratory skill. She's obviously good at it and she isn't the first highly skilled orator to lean on operatic techniques. In terms of means to pay for a social media operator - she's got a publisher who would have the skills and there was an Indian billionaire found posting on her Facebook so pretty sure they'd have a few rupees plus her dad just off the top of my head. How does she afford to fly about the place merely on a grant and how would she have time to study if she didn't sub- contract out elements of her social media? It's good that kids are being educated but we can't forget they're only repeating what we're telling them - they're a mirror reflecting our input so shouldn't be viewed as some sage like oracle.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 30, 2022 22:02:59 GMT
Why on earth would Greta have or could afford a Social Media Team when her only source of income is her University Grant Any money she has been awarded for the Honours she has received she has donated to Charities... unless you know different. Are you seriously saying a background as an Opera singer and a minor Actor and Writer are the exact attributes need to found a worldwide Youth Movement? We obviously come from different ends of the spectrum when it comes to the effects of Climate Change or indeed whether it is even an existential threat You are projecting achievements upon Greta which she has never claimed She is not an original thinker nor inventor she is merely propagating Scientific evidence which is freely available on the Internet... unless you are a denier of course so in that respect she is intelligent and wise. In her own words she has said it's "weird" when "heterosexual, cis, white privileged middle-aged men" are threatened by children "just stating the facts" about climate change It is merely inconvenient to most people in UK that 2022 will be the warmest on record For those indigenous peoples living with drought, flooding or erosion its quiet a different matter and the fight is being taken up by Children/Young people as evidenced by the Saachi Case taken to UN. A positive outcome of increased Education for Children is that they are more informed of external factors and their human rights via Internet I'm not a climate change denier but deny we've got the ability or propensity to do anything about it. Scientists are telling us we may already have crossed the Rubicon but mankind is busy fucking about in Eastern Europe and South China sea. I've seen ESG in action and its already turning into tick box and creative accounting. You're saying she isn't an inventor nor offering anything new and I'm saying she's merely a communicator so We're on the same page. I don't believe I'm threatened by her at all really but would suggest what is even weirder would be middle aged, white 'cis', middle class men need of a teenager to regurgitate scientific theory before they'd listen - I'd just read what the relevant scientist had to say regardless of age, ethnicity, sexual preferences etc. I am threatened though by society looking to the youth for wisdom - that's just mental. The comment on her parents wasn't around money but oratory skill. She's obviously good at it and she isn't the first highly skilled orator to lean on operatic techniques. In terms of means to pay for a social media operator - she's got a publisher who would have the skills and there was an Indian billionaire found posting on her Facebook so pretty sure they'd have a few rupees plus her dad just off the top of my head. How does she afford to fly about the place merely on a grant and how would she have time to study if she didn't sub- contract out elements of her social media? It's good that kids are being educated but we can't forget they're only repeating what we're telling them - they're a mirror reflecting our input so shouldn't be viewed as some sage like oracle. We're probably not too far apart in our thinking, I don't believe Individual or Collective Countries have the will or capacity to solve Global Warming using traditional methods of constraint and denial Countries are just too selfish to make that work I firmly believe the solution will come from new technology and have said so several times on this MB When I referred to those who feel threatened by her I was not referring to you but people like Putin, Trump, Boris, Bolsanaro etc who I mentioned in my previous post who feel the need to try and belittle a teenager and just end up looking stupid by her Clapbacks I agree about her oratory skills which are emotional yet controlled Whether they are contrived is something else. Maybe she has financial backing for communication, I don't know but it's not for personal gain. Are you being obscure about her "flying about the place" she refuses to fly anywhere and attended UN meeting by Yacht and returned by same means. In Europe she travels by Train and Bus and if by car uses Nissan Leaf? Your view on Education is like a bad version of Chinese Whispers which I simply refuse to accept If true Man's curiosity would simply not have seen the technological advances it has made. The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, the young know everything. Oscar Wilde
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 30, 2022 22:45:16 GMT
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Post by noustie on Dec 30, 2022 23:24:50 GMT
I'm not a climate change denier but deny we've got the ability or propensity to do anything about it. Scientists are telling us we may already have crossed the Rubicon but mankind is busy fucking about in Eastern Europe and South China sea. I've seen ESG in action and its already turning into tick box and creative accounting. You're saying she isn't an inventor nor offering anything new and I'm saying she's merely a communicator so We're on the same page. I don't believe I'm threatened by her at all really but would suggest what is even weirder would be middle aged, white 'cis', middle class men need of a teenager to regurgitate scientific theory before they'd listen - I'd just read what the relevant scientist had to say regardless of age, ethnicity, sexual preferences etc. I am threatened though by society looking to the youth for wisdom - that's just mental. The comment on her parents wasn't around money but oratory skill. She's obviously good at it and she isn't the first highly skilled orator to lean on operatic techniques. In terms of means to pay for a social media operator - she's got a publisher who would have the skills and there was an Indian billionaire found posting on her Facebook so pretty sure they'd have a few rupees plus her dad just off the top of my head. How does she afford to fly about the place merely on a grant and how would she have time to study if she didn't sub- contract out elements of her social media? It's good that kids are being educated but we can't forget they're only repeating what we're telling them - they're a mirror reflecting our input so shouldn't be viewed as some sage like oracle. We're probably not too far apart in our thinking, I don't believe Individual or Collective Countries have the will or capacity to solve Global Warming using traditional methods of constraint and denial Countries are just too selfish to make that work I firmly believe the solution will come from new technology and have said so several times on this MB When I referred to those who feel threatened by her I was not referring to you but people like Putin, Trump, Boris, Bolsanaro etc who I mentioned in my previous post who feel the need to try and belittle a teenager and just end up looking stupid by her Clapbacks I agree about her oratory skills which are emotional yet controlled Whether they are contrived is something else. Maybe she has financial backing for communication, I don't know but it's not for personal gain. Are you being obscure about her "flying about the place" she refuses to fly anywhere and attended UN meeting by Yacht and returned by same means. In Europe she travels by Train and Bus and if by car uses Nissan Leaf? Your view on Education is like a bad version of Chinese Whispers which I simply refuse to accept If true Man's curiosity would simply not have seen the technological advances it has made. The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, the young know everything. Oscar Wilde No mate it was a mixture of clumsy language and ignorance on my part - the point though still is she's got the means to be transported worldwide even if its not directly from her own pocket. I'm not suggesting she's trousering cash but there must be folk picking up the expenses. What I'm meaning by the younger generation is if we're asking kids straight out of school then you'll get intelligence- give them time to use what we've taught them and how they interpret it in their new environment then you get wisdom and progress. Love an Oscar Wilde quote - wonder if he'd change the order today
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Post by wannabee on Dec 31, 2022 0:33:53 GMT
We're probably not too far apart in our thinking, I don't believe Individual or Collective Countries have the will or capacity to solve Global Warming using traditional methods of constraint and denial Countries are just too selfish to make that work I firmly believe the solution will come from new technology and have said so several times on this MB When I referred to those who feel threatened by her I was not referring to you but people like Putin, Trump, Boris, Bolsanaro etc who I mentioned in my previous post who feel the need to try and belittle a teenager and just end up looking stupid by her Clapbacks I agree about her oratory skills which are emotional yet controlled Whether they are contrived is something else. Maybe she has financial backing for communication, I don't know but it's not for personal gain. Are you being obscure about her "flying about the place" she refuses to fly anywhere and attended UN meeting by Yacht and returned by same means. In Europe she travels by Train and Bus and if by car uses Nissan Leaf? Your view on Education is like a bad version of Chinese Whispers which I simply refuse to accept If true Man's curiosity would simply not have seen the technological advances it has made. The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, the young know everything. Oscar Wilde No mate it was a mixture of clumsy language and ignorance on my part - the point though still is she's got the means to be transported worldwide even if its not directly from her own pocket. I'm not suggesting she's trousering cash but there must be folk picking up the expenses. What I'm meaning by the younger generation is if we're asking kids straight out of school then you'll get intelligence- give them time to use what we've taught them and how they interpret it in their new environment then you get wisdom and progress. Love an Oscar Wilde quote - wonder if he'd change the order today Without trying to assign labels I'd say for their particular environment Greta's Mom and Pop would be described as Middle or Upper-Middle Class and like most Parents in this category the Bank of Mom and Dad would come into play. This of course wouldn't preclude others providing decent lodgings or food and beverage for her on her travels. I daresay the yacht which propelled her over and back across the Atlantic wasn't cheap or indeed the journey without its perils Was the journey making a point and was it practical? It certainly stopped accusations of hypocrisy Some might say intelligence is innate while wisdom comes from experience Additionally wise people tend to do well on average over a range of situations while intelligent ones outperform in a limited number of situations. What I do know is when I had my own small business I instinctively knew the type of person I needed to employ given the role I needed to be filled. I'm sure Oscar given his tendency towards self deprecation would rank purely on whichever flattered his own ego the most I think we've come full circle but it's not been an unpleasant journey
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 31, 2022 0:38:12 GMT
I’d never heard of him until yesterday.
He seems like a proper bellend…….
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 0:50:55 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down.
My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks.
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Post by noustie on Dec 31, 2022 0:59:19 GMT
No mate it was a mixture of clumsy language and ignorance on my part - the point though still is she's got the means to be transported worldwide even if its not directly from her own pocket. I'm not suggesting she's trousering cash but there must be folk picking up the expenses. What I'm meaning by the younger generation is if we're asking kids straight out of school then you'll get intelligence- give them time to use what we've taught them and how they interpret it in their new environment then you get wisdom and progress. Love an Oscar Wilde quote - wonder if he'd change the order today Without trying to assign labels I'd say for their particular environment Greta's Mom and Pop would be described as Middle or Upper-Middle Class and like most Parents in this category the Bank of Mom and Dad would come into play. This of course wouldn't preclude others providing decent lodgings or food and beverage for her on her travels. I daresay the yacht which propelled her over and back across the Atlantic wasn't cheap or indeed the journey without its perils Was the journey making a point and was it practical? It certainly stopped accusations of hypocrisy Some might say intelligence is innate while wisdom comes from experience Additionally wise people tend to do well on average over a range of situations while intelligent ones outperform in a limited number of situations. What I do know is when I had my own small business I instinctively knew the type of person I needed to employ given the role I needed to be filled. I'm sure Oscar given his tendency towards self deprecation would rank purely on whichever flattered his own ego the most I think we've come full circle but it's not been an unpleasant journey Would have been quicker if we went by plane 😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 1:43:54 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down. My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks. I mean this “seriously smart dude” said this : “Women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. […] If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility.” He’s absolute vermin.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Dec 31, 2022 2:25:31 GMT
Like all the scumbags that come before him, they eventually end up in handcuffs
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 31, 2022 4:56:32 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. Jesus wept 🤦♂️ You're not one of those seriously smart dudes paying him forty bucks a month for lifestyle coaching, surely ...
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Post by Pedropotter on Dec 31, 2022 6:38:11 GMT
Middle aged blokes seem obsessed by her and quite intimidated that a young woman can be intelligent and really quite powerful. It’s very strange. And quite insulting to her tbh. Like she couldn’t hold these thoughts herself. Misogynistic shite. I've not followed her in recent years. Maybe her views have matured. But when she first burst onto the scene, I felt very sorry for her because she was a politically indoctrinated child with a mental-disorder who was essentially being abused by her parents; parents who were allowing an autistic kid (with extreme black/white thinking) to literally believe that the world was going to end in the near future. That doesn't excuse the vitriol thrown her way from the right, but in a sense I'm not sure how people who know she's catastrophising are meant to react. The fact GT was chosen as the poster child was deliberate; she's a young girl/woman with a disability, so it was meant to be a shield so that, when people do come at her for her deluded outlook, people like you bayern can seek to shut down the debate by throwing isms their way. A cunty trick that is favoured by movements of a certain broad political flavour. Spot on mate. Great post.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 31, 2022 10:18:10 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 31, 2022 12:04:41 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down. My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks. 'seriously smart'? He's thick as fuck and his views are deplorable "You want you're woman to be as compliant as possible" Same soundbites Hitler used to brainwash the masses, but instead of 'elites' etc, it was Jews.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 31, 2022 12:39:32 GMT
They have already been released apparently, don’t know how true or not. Something similar happened earlier on in the year with an anonymous tip off landing him and his brother arrested for an hour for the exact same thing. There is actually a video of him made recently where he talks about him expecting to be arrested for something. Man’s got enemies Man’s got enemies ‘cause he’s a total twat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 12:42:21 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down. My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks. I mean this “seriously smart dude” said this : “Women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. […] If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility.” He’s absolute vermin. Posting the full quote not because I think the soundbite is justifiable (I don't) but, as with most of the things I've heard him say since recently being made aware of him, I agree with a large % of it. I get that most people here find a large % of what he says reprehensible; but for me personally, do I throw the baby out with the bathwater when I think most of what he says is vital and needs to be heard? (obviously this is pending the ongoing investigation which I expect is a hitjob but could turn out to be valid - innocent until proven guilty except on the oatcake) Also where is this notion that because you find someone's views reprehensible, then that automatically means they're not smart? Can you not be "seriously smart"/"vermin" simultaneously? Fairly sure you can.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 12:45:53 GMT
I mean this “seriously smart dude” said this : “Women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. […] If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility.” He’s absolute vermin. Posting the full quote not because I think the soundbite is justifiable (I don't) but, as with most of the things I've heard him say since recently being made aware of him, I agree with a large % of it. I get that most people here find a large % of what he says reprehensible; but for me personally, do I throw the baby out with the bathwater when I think most of what he says is vital and needs to be heard? (obviously this is pending the ongoing investigation which I expect is a hitjob but could turn out to be valid - innocent until proven guilty except on the oatcake) Also where is this notion that because you find someone's views reprehensible, then that automatically means they're not smart? Can you not be "seriously smart"/"vermin" simultaneously? Fairly sure you can. The whole thing is abhorrent. He’s a danger.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 31, 2022 12:51:33 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down. My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks. Regardless of whether these charges "stick" or not, i'm sure that your wife/mother/daughter/grandaughters must be really proud of you for labelling someone who promotes violence towards women, the subjugation and belittlement of women and blames women for their own sexual assaults as "super smart". Genuine question, have you the balls to have told female relatives that you support Tate or do you only have the guts to do it anonymously on here? What a great male role model you must be for them whilst supporting such utterly contemptable idealogies.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 31, 2022 12:52:31 GMT
I mean this “seriously smart dude” said this : “Women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. […] If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility.” He’s absolute vermin. Posting the full quote not because I think the soundbite is justifiable (I don't) but, as with most of the things I've heard him say since recently being made aware of him, I agree with a large % of it. I get that most people here find a large % of what he says reprehensible; but for me personally, do I throw the baby out with the bathwater when I think most of what he says is vital and needs to be heard? (obviously this is pending the ongoing investigation which I expect is a hitjob but could turn out to be valid - innocent until proven guilty except on the oatcake) Also where is this notion that because you find someone's views reprehensible, then that automatically means they're not smart? Can you not be "seriously smart"/"vermin" simultaneously? Fairly sure you can. Whole quote does him no favours. Total twat. The world would be better without him.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 31, 2022 13:13:08 GMT
What you mean by the last sentence? There is a video where he talks about his belief that certain people are “after him” and that his initial social media cancellation was just the start, with the next step him being arrested for something out of the blue. He considers these as warnings from powers that be against things he has/is saying That video was made after he'd first been detained by Romanian police back in April and was made aware the investigation extended to rape charges (which is why he'd stayed away from Romania ever since, until the last few days of course). I'm pretty sure that most people who had rape charges dangling over them could foretell that there was a chance that people may be "after them", it's hardly some kind of bizarre prophecy that came from out of the blue from nowhere and therefore must back up some kind of wild conspiracy theory. It's an investigation that was already ongoing and he'd been detained for by the police previously...but you carry on believing the "arrest out of the blue" nonsense if you like fella. After all, he's 100% relying on people like you who will believe him without first doing the tiniest bit of homework on him P.S. i presume you're aware that he first went over to Romania to escape an assault charge he was being investigated for here in the UK and he himself said that "40% of the reason" that he went there is that it's easier to escape rape charges? He then qualified that by saying "I'm not actually a rapist but i like the idea of being able to do whatever i want, i like to be free", as if that somehow makes it sound better.
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Post by outspaced on Dec 31, 2022 13:24:22 GMT
Two days ago I didn't know who this bloke was. I wish it was two days ago again.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 31, 2022 13:26:43 GMT
I was wondering which part of the States he's from. Turns out it was Luton.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 13:34:30 GMT
Seriously smart dude. No surprise that they’re coming for him. A man with his sort of power who openly says such things is perceived as a threat that needs taking down. My guess is these charges will reveal themselves to hold no substance whatsoever. But mud sticks. Regardless of whether these charges "stick" or not, i'm sure that your wife/mother/daughter/grandaughters must be really proud of you for labelling someone who promotes violence towards women, the subjugation and belittlement of women and blames women for their own sexual assaults as "super smart". Genuine question, have you the balls to have told female relatives that you support Tate or do you only have the guts to do it anonymously on here?What a great male role model you must be for them whilst supporting such utterly contemptable idealogies. I have close female relatives who have been hyper-critical of aspects of the me too movement. I also have close female relatives who would be on board with you. They all know who I am. I don't agree with your analysis btw. (obviously...) I only became aware of him recently before this thread. The Piers Morgan interview (where they play chess) was the first major exposure. And I think it was a great interview.
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