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Post by zommbee on Dec 9, 2022 23:03:37 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level?
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 9, 2022 23:07:28 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? It's a personal choice....now shit bin
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 9, 2022 23:13:58 GMT
I’ve just had my own personal boycott and not forced my views on anyone else. Not watched a single live, recorded or highlighted match.
I personally just cannot support a tournament that has so little going for it in terms of ethics, human rights, workers rights and equality.
Whilst I appreciate and understand that my own personal choice to boycott the whole thing will make diddly squat difference to anything I am a person of principle and just can’t support or watch this tournament.
PS can’t bloody wait to attend the Stoke:Cardiff game tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2022 23:25:25 GMT
A few made a fuss pre tournament, no one really cared then and far less now.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 10, 2022 0:10:03 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? I've not watched much and I honestly couldn't give a shit what you or any other crowing cunt thinks.
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Post by wapiti on Dec 10, 2022 3:58:30 GMT
Going forward a few changes need to take place.....no more World Cups should be held in the Middle East (too hot, crap Yank beer and/or no beer)......and starting in 2030 alternate WC between Europe and South America only.
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Post by upthefud on Dec 10, 2022 5:38:58 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? Great question I’ve been banging the boycott drum for years now, but you are spot on that it’s almost impossible to avoid - and what good will one person do? My housemates already pay for SkySport (NZ broadcaster) so it’s not like I can hit them in the pocket. In the end I decided to highlight that I still disagree with it and laid out the reasons why. I’ve accepted that as a football man it’s almost impossible for me to avoid the WC, so I’ve committed to donating £5 to Amnesty International for every live game I watch (the time difference has made it tricky) and I’ve encouraged others who feel the same. So in a nutshell I failed the boycott, but I still feel like people with my stance can do a modicum of good
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 10, 2022 6:35:05 GMT
When this tournament is over all of football will breath a huge sigh of relief.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Dec 10, 2022 8:02:48 GMT
But celebrating our win
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 10, 2022 8:08:37 GMT
I said I wouldn’t watch any games. Afraid I failed as couldn’t resist England's & Australia's games. If England are knocked out then I will not be remotely interested in the rest of the tournament.
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Post by franklin on Dec 10, 2022 8:27:14 GMT
So it's not OK to watch this tournament but its OK to watch the cricket in Pakistan and other sport in countries with suspect human rights.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 10, 2022 8:57:11 GMT
I was nonplussed before but Ive ended up watching nearly all the games and enjoyed most of them.
As someone said last night, even the shitter games tend to have had something out of the ordinary happen in them
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 9:20:06 GMT
Donning my tin foil hat here.
This was this blokes last story. He was also thrown out of a ground for wearing a rainbow shirt.
He died unexpectedly in Qatar today.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2022 9:21:46 GMT
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Post by chad on Dec 10, 2022 9:22:53 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? Do we really need to state MENS World Cup. Sorry but it does my head in
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Post by chinupstokie on Dec 10, 2022 10:27:43 GMT
I’ve not watched any of the games but I have looked at several results & watched a couple of the goal highlights on the BBC.
I really want England to do well & win the thing – a weird juxtaposition to be in.
But the bottom line for me when I am tempted to watch is to remember the 6,500 or so migrant workers have died building the stadiums so the world can watch a football tournament.
Will it make a difference, possibly not, but at least there is one obscure Englishman who has taken a stand however flawed it may seem.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 10, 2022 10:32:50 GMT
Donning my tin foil hat here. This was this blokes last story. He was also thrown out of a ground for wearing a rainbow shirt. He died unexpectedly in Qatar today. definitely something murky going on.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 10, 2022 10:36:26 GMT
I’ve just had my own personal boycott and not forced my views on anyone else. Not watched a single live, recorded or highlighted match. I personally just cannot support a tournament that has so little going for it in terms of ethics, human rights, workers rights and equality. Whilst I appreciate and understand that my own personal choice to boycott the whole thing will make diddly squat difference to anything I am a person of principle and just can’t support or watch this tournament. PS can’t bloody wait to attend the Stoke:Cardiff game tomorrow Ditto. Weird how people watching it are keen to keep telling those that haven’t what a great tournament is and how their choice has achieved little, you’re watching it and enjoying it and that’s fine. Good luck to you……..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 10:45:19 GMT
I’ve just had my own personal boycott and not forced my views on anyone else. Not watched a single live, recorded or highlighted match. I personally just cannot support a tournament that has so little going for it in terms of ethics, human rights, workers rights and equality. Whilst I appreciate and understand that my own personal choice to boycott the whole thing will make diddly squat difference to anything I am a person of principle and just can’t support or watch this tournament. PS can’t bloody wait to attend the Stoke:Cardiff game tomorrow Ditto. Weird how people watching it are keen to keep telling those that haven’t what a great tournament is and how their choice has achieved little, you’re watching it and enjoying it and that’s fine. Good luck to you…….. As opposed to those not watching it who seem to keep wanting to remind those who didn't care in the first place about their so meaningful boycott
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 10, 2022 10:47:50 GMT
Going forward a few changes need to take place.....no more World Cups should be held in the Middle East (too hot, crap Yank beer and/or no beer)......and starting in 2030 alternate WC between Europe and South America only. I would like the next World Cup to be in Morocco. Its not really a World Cup if its only in Europe or South America.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 10, 2022 10:47:56 GMT
Ditto. Weird how people watching it are keen to keep telling those that haven’t what a great tournament is and how their choice has achieved little, you’re watching it and enjoying it and that’s fine. Good luck to you…….. As opposed to those not watching it who seem to keep wanting to remind those who didn't care in the first place about their so meaningful boycott I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either…….
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 10, 2022 10:55:27 GMT
As opposed to those not watching it who seem to keep wanting to remind those who didn't care in the first place about their so meaningful boycott I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either……. Nor me, but if they have, it's a public forum so I guess all things are possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 10:55:51 GMT
As opposed to those not watching it who seem to keep wanting to remind those who didn't care in the first place about their so meaningful boycott I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either……. Bottom line is, no one cares if someone doesn't watch it. Why the need to tell folk in the first place?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 10, 2022 11:02:03 GMT
I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either……. Bottom line is, no one cares if someone doesn't watch it. Why the need to tell folk in the first place? Because the original poster asked. The message board would be pretty shit if people didn’t interact, I see you’ve just posted your prediction on the England v France thread, why the need to tell folk how you think the game might end up no one cares fella……
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 11:06:30 GMT
I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either……. Bottom line is, no one cares if someone doesn't watch it. Why the need to tell folk in the first place? Why try to highlight social injustice and sport washing indeed.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 10, 2022 11:08:59 GMT
So it's not OK to watch this tournament but its OK to watch the cricket in Pakistan and other sport in countries with suspect human rights. For those of a certain age the South African boycotts did plenty of good and contributed to a feeling that South Africa needed to change. Sure there were some twats who went or worked around it. The difference is the main sporting boards and others all put a unified position out there. Also the supporters of that generation stuck with it in the majority. Today no one gives a fuck about anything important and just put things in the "too difficult" in tray sit back and go la la la.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 10, 2022 11:18:20 GMT
So it's not OK to watch this tournament but its OK to watch the cricket in Pakistan and other sport in countries with suspect human rights. For those of a certain age the South African boycotts did plenty of good and contributed to a feeling that South Africa needed to change. Sure there were some twats who went or worked around it. The difference is the main sporting boards and others all put a unified position out there. Also the supporters of that generation stuck with it in the majority. Today no one gives a fuck about anything important and just put things in the "too difficult" in tray sit back and go la la la. It’s a good job the internet and social media weren’t around in the days of apartheid, people would have been mocked and told to keep politics out of sport. In fact if it had been around even longer women wouldn’t have the vote and Victorian work houses would still exist…….
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 10, 2022 11:20:14 GMT
I mean the thread is literally called “World Cup Boycotters” I’ve not seen anyone keep going on about it either……. Bottom line is, no one cares if someone doesn't watch it. Why the need to tell folk in the first place? It just means you don't care, which is fine. The original poster asks a reasonable question, i.e. what has been achieved on a personal level or broader level? There are many instances where a boycott doesn't appear to achieve something i.e. change the nature of the event significantly, but that doesn't mean that it is insignificant on a personal level, or influences others which might affect some kind of change in the future. Change works on a micro, as well as a macro level. There are posts about stuff people don't necessarily care about all of the time on here, I know Ive posted a few, but its a public forum so just as I have the right to post and express my idea, so others have the right to respond or not to respond. It's fine if you don't care but a bit presumptuous to say no one cares.
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Post by franklin on Dec 10, 2022 12:00:56 GMT
So it's not OK to watch this tournament but its OK to watch the cricket in Pakistan and other sport in countries with suspect human rights. For those of a certain age the South African boycotts did plenty of good and contributed to a feeling that South Africa needed to change. Sure there were some twats who went or worked around it. The difference is the main sporting boards and others all put a unified position out there. Also the supporters of that generation stuck with it in the majority. Today no one gives a fuck about anything important and just put things in the "too difficult" in tray sit back and go la la la. It's a genuine question or is it OK to watch some things but not others why is the world cup bad but tuning into the cricket is OK or are some regimes poor human rights OK if you like cricket. You can't pick and chose which to ignore if it suits, slightly hypocritical stance.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 10, 2022 12:11:07 GMT
I'm interested to see, once the tournament is over, whether overall viewing figures have remained consistent/gone up/decreased for televised games globally or nationally.
I haven't been bothered about this one, but that's my choice, as i couldn't really stomach the deaths, the corruption in qatar and from fifa, and even excessive hyperbole from poor quality broadcasters such as ITV.
If viewing figures are down, i suspect it will have an effect upon advertising revenue that fifa collects. So even if it doesn't feel as though a difference is being made, money talks, and no company will make the same mistake twice when it comes to revenue from future tournaments.
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