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Post by RF10 on Dec 10, 2022 12:11:42 GMT
I've not boycotted as I love watching the football side too much, although it does feel really wrong and can understand why you would choose not to watch. If I get called hypocritical then it's probably true.
Important issues have been highlighted during coverage which will do no harm and could be a force for the good, however the bottom line is it should not be held in the first place.
I would absolutely love for England to get to Final and both teams refuse to play meaning no winner could be decided. The chance of that happening is sweet FA.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 12:19:41 GMT
it is bizzare listening to someone wearing nike trainers , made by slave labour in china , reading their apple i phone made by slave labour in china , complain about workers rights in qatar
if you don't care about all your adidas nike samsung apple etc gear being made by slave labour and child labour in china
why are you suddenly interested in qatari labour practices ?
primark , adidas , nike , apple , samsung , qatari construction companies are ALL in the wrong
But i am still expecting the virtue signalling woke amongst us to be opening an avalanche of branded made in china , consumer products , on christmas day
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Post by noustie on Dec 10, 2022 12:20:18 GMT
For those of a certain age the South African boycotts did plenty of good and contributed to a feeling that South Africa needed to change. Sure there were some twats who went or worked around it. The difference is the main sporting boards and others all put a unified position out there. Also the supporters of that generation stuck with it in the majority. Today no one gives a fuck about anything important and just put things in the "too difficult" in tray sit back and go la la la. It’s a good job the internet and social media weren’t around in the days of apartheid, people would have been mocked and told to keep politics out of sport. In fact if it had been around even longer women wouldn’t have the vote and Victorian work houses would still exist……. 1936 Olympics were an absolute banger from a sporting and cinematic perspective absolutely ruined by politics the bastards!
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Post by noustie on Dec 10, 2022 12:40:14 GMT
I'm interested to see, once the tournament is over, whether overall viewing figures have remained consistent/gone up/decreased for televised games globally or nationally. I haven't been bothered about this one, but that's my choice, as i couldn't really stomach the deaths, the corruption in qatar and from fifa, and even excessive hyperbole from poor quality broadcasters such as ITV. If viewing figures are down, i suspect it will have an effect upon advertising revenue that fifa collects. So even if it doesn't feel as though a difference is being made, money talks, and no company will make the same mistake twice when it comes to revenue from future tournaments. I reckon even a dip in viewing figures would put the shitters up them. If they give 2030 to Saudi Arabia though they don't give a fuck. I didn't watch first few days then my arse fell out and started watching. Previous world cups though I'd watch every game but doubt I've watched half start to finish this time. Not been that impressed to be honest- crowds have been patchy, pitches patchy and teams have been patchy as fuck.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 10, 2022 13:07:35 GMT
That’s fishier than a North Sea trawler catch that is…..
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 10, 2022 13:08:34 GMT
I've not boycotted as I love watching the football side too much, although it does feel really wrong and can understand why you would choose not to watch. If I get called hypocritical then it's probably true. Important issues have been highlighted during coverage which will do no harm and could be a force for the good, however the bottom line is it should not be held in the first place. I would absolutely love for England to get to Final and both teams refuse to play meaning no winner could be decided. The chance of that happening is sweet FA. Surely a better move would be to play the final and for the teams to make a statement like wear armbands and force FIFA/Qatar to let the match go ahead or cancel it, leaving the decision in the authorities hands. I don't believe in boycotts. The better policy is to meet with people to change their minds and get them to realise there is a better way. So yes trade with them, play with them, but don't let them take control. Germany has made huge mistakes making themselves dependant on Russia for energy, and now making China their number 1 trading partner. What will Germany do if China invade Taiwan which they believe is part of their country? So yes deal with these regimes, but don't sell out to them. In hindsight EUFA should have told FIFA that Qatar was not acceptable, but we all know money talks and the people in charge are just as corrupt as many politicians, media moguls, etc.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 10, 2022 13:27:56 GMT
It’s a good job the internet and social media weren’t around in the days of apartheid, people would have been mocked and told to keep politics out of sport. In fact if it had been around even longer women wouldn’t have the vote and Victorian work houses would still exist……. 1936 Olympics were an absolute banger from a sporting and cinematic perspective absolutely ruined by politics the bastards! Mussolini did well out of the 193t World Cup
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Post by femark on Dec 10, 2022 13:28:10 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? Do we really need to state MENS World Cup. Sorry but it does my head in Probably to differentiate it from the women’s? 🧐
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 10, 2022 13:40:23 GMT
I didn’t realise there were any deaths during the making of this World Cup. 1or 2 would have been terrible and maybe accidental but 6500 plus is sickening. I haven’t watched a lot of this World Cup due to a few reasons regarding football. Whilst I agree if people want to boycott for different reasons at the end of the day I think it would only make a difference for the person who boycotted but wouldn’t make any difference to fifa. Regards to the people who are working for nothing that happens in most things you purchase.
It is also a reasonable thread and the questions asked
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Post by ColonelMustard on Dec 10, 2022 13:46:53 GMT
The next world cup is in part in the USA who's human rights abuse record is second to none. I'll expect a big call to boycott that.
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Post by iamstokie on Dec 10, 2022 13:50:33 GMT
That’s fishier than a North Sea trawler catch that is….. He as been ill for last week or so with severe bronchitis 🤷♂️
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Post by franklin on Dec 10, 2022 13:56:32 GMT
I didn’t realise there were any deaths during the making of this World Cup. 1or 2 would have been terrible and maybe accidental but 6500 plus is sickening. I haven’t watched a lot of this World Cup due to a few reasons regarding football. Whilst I agree if people want to boycott for different reasons at the end of the day I think it would only make a difference for the person who boycotted but wouldn’t make any difference to fifa. Regards to the people who are working for nothing that happens in most things you purchase. It is also a reasonable thread and the questions asked Blimey it's been all over the news for a good Yr or two regarding the deaths.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 10, 2022 14:08:56 GMT
it is bizzare listening to someone wearing nike trainers , made by slave labour in china , reading their apple i phone made by slave labour in china , complain about workers rights in qatar if you don't care about all your adidas nike samsung apple etc gear being made by slave labour and child labour in china why are you suddenly interested in qatari labour practices ? primark , adidas , nike , apple , samsung , qatari construction companies are ALL in the wrong But i am still expecting the virtue signalling woke amongst us to be opening an avalanche of branded made in china , consumer products , on christmas day Isn't the branding of anyone who highlights human rights issues (albit selectively) as hypocrites just another form of virtue signalling?
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 10, 2022 14:11:09 GMT
I didn’t realise there were any deaths during the making of this World Cup. 1or 2 would have been terrible and maybe accidental but 6500 plus is sickening. I haven’t watched a lot of this World Cup due to a few reasons regarding football. Whilst I agree if people want to boycott for different reasons at the end of the day I think it would only make a difference for the person who boycotted but wouldn’t make any difference to fifa. Regards to the people who are working for nothing that happens in most things you purchase. It is also a reasonable thread and the questions asked Blimey it's been all over the news for a good Yr or two regarding the deaths. Try not watch news 😃 I sometimes think I’ve been to mars on me hols 😃
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Dec 10, 2022 14:29:05 GMT
I've not boycotted as I love watching the football side too much, although it does feel really wrong and can understand why you would choose not to watch. If I get called hypocritical then it's probably true. Important issues have been highlighted during coverage which will do no harm and could be a force for the good, however the bottom line is it should not be held in the first place. I would absolutely love for England to get to Final and both teams refuse to play meaning no winner could be decided. The chance of that happening is sweet FA. Surely a better move would be to play the final and for the teams to make a statement like wear armbands and force FIFA/Qatar to let the match go ahead or cancel it, leaving the decision in the authorities hands. I don't believe in boycotts. The better policy is to meet with people to change their minds and get them to realise there is a better way. So yes trade with them, play with them, but don't let them take control. Germany has made huge mistakes making themselves dependant on Russia for energy, and now making China their number 1 trading partner. What will Germany do if China invade Taiwan which they believe is part of their country? So yes deal with these regimes, but don't sell out to them. In hindsight EUFA should have told FIFA that Qatar was not acceptable, but we all know money talks and the people in charge are just as corrupt as many politicians, media moguls, etc. This is absolutely right. Enough of the big European countries who care (and some don't), should have agreed to tell FIFA they would boycott years ago. The impact of a World Cup with massive football nations missing would have been far bigger than any fan boycotts. Most likely they would have had to move it, which again would have been telling.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 10, 2022 16:15:58 GMT
It should not be in Qatar It should not be in the winter
But it’s been a great World Cup
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Dec 10, 2022 16:22:24 GMT
It should not be in Qatar It should not be in the winter But it’s been a great World Cup It's only winter in half the world you northernist!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 16:25:12 GMT
I didn’t realise there were any deaths during the making of this World Cup. 1or 2 would have been terrible and maybe accidental but 6500 plus is sickening. I haven’t watched a lot of this World Cup due to a few reasons regarding football. Whilst I agree if people want to boycott for different reasons at the end of the day I think it would only make a difference for the person who boycotted but wouldn’t make any difference to fifa. Regards to the people who are working for nothing that happens in most things you purchase. It is also a reasonable thread and the questions asked Blimey it's been all over the news for a good Yr or two regarding the deaths. Were people killed building Wembley This is a bit like Veganism/Vegetarianism You announce it, no one cares but have to do it again until someone might be the slightest bit interested as you need to feel like you're doing something and feel the need to announce it
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Post by stoke111 on Dec 10, 2022 17:07:46 GMT
I'm interested to see, once the tournament is over, whether overall viewing figures have remained consistent/gone up/decreased for televised games globally or nationally. I haven't been bothered about this one, but that's my choice, as i couldn't really stomach the deaths, the corruption in qatar and from fifa, and even excessive hyperbole from poor quality broadcasters such as ITV. If viewing figures are down, i suspect it will have an effect upon advertising revenue that fifa collects. So even if it doesn't feel as though a difference is being made, money talks, and no company will make the same mistake twice when it comes to revenue from future tournaments. I reckon even a dip in viewing figures would put the shitters up them. If they give 2030 to Saudi Arabia though they don't give a fuck. I didn't watch first few days then my arse fell out and started watching. Previous world cups though I'd watch every game but doubt I've watched half start to finish this time. Not been that impressed to be honest- crowds have been patchy, pitches patchy and teams have been patchy as fuck. With the success of morroco providing a lot of new Middle East viewers and USA having some success being a big market I can imagine even a small drop in European viewers won’t make an impact on global viewership.
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Post by figo85 on Dec 10, 2022 17:10:38 GMT
It’s a shame our team have just been on a jolly to Dubai.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 10, 2022 17:13:59 GMT
it is bizzare listening to someone wearing nike trainers , made by slave labour in china , reading their apple i phone made by slave labour in china , complain about workers rights in qatar if you don't care about all your adidas nike samsung apple etc gear being made by slave labour and child labour in china why are you suddenly interested in qatari labour practices ? primark , adidas , nike , apple , samsung , qatari construction companies are ALL in the wrong But i am still expecting the virtue signalling woke amongst us to be opening an avalanche of branded made in china , consumer products , on christmas day I'll be doing all of the above on 25 December and will also be throwing a gay off a building. It's a tradition and it just doesn't feel like Christmas until it happens. Of course, the lefty woke snowflake brigade will look down on me but who are they to denigrate a long-standing festive family ritual? The world has lost it's mind.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 10, 2022 17:15:39 GMT
I'm interested to see, once the tournament is over, whether overall viewing figures have remained consistent/gone up/decreased for televised games globally or nationally. I haven't been bothered about this one, but that's my choice, as i couldn't really stomach the deaths, the corruption in qatar and from fifa, and even excessive hyperbole from poor quality broadcasters such as ITV. If viewing figures are down, i suspect it will have an effect upon advertising revenue that fifa collects. So even if it doesn't feel as though a difference is being made, money talks, and no company will make the same mistake twice when it comes to revenue from future tournaments. I reckon even a dip in viewing figures would put the shitters up them. If they give 2030 to Saudi Arabia though they don't give a fuck. I didn't watch first few days then my arse fell out and started watching. Previous world cups though I'd watch every game but doubt I've watched half start to finish this time. Not been that impressed to be honest- crowds have been patchy, pitches patchy and teams have been patchy as fuck. are saudi arabia in the running for 2030?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 10, 2022 17:19:19 GMT
It's been an amazing tournament. The most entertaining in many years.
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Post by franklin on Dec 10, 2022 17:24:19 GMT
It's been an amazing tournament. The most entertaining in many years. Certainly thrown in some amazing shock results and last gasp finishes 👏
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Post by wapiti on Dec 10, 2022 17:27:08 GMT
Going forward a few changes need to take place.....no more World Cups should be held in the Middle East (too hot, crap Yank beer and/or no beer)......and starting in 2030 alternate WC between Europe and South America only. I would like the next World Cup to be in Morocco. Its not really a World Cup if its only in Europe or South America. Of course it is. It's a World Cup by virtue of teams from around the world playing in it.....not where it's played. They alternated between Europe and South America until fairly recently.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 17:32:36 GMT
It's been an amazing tournament. The most entertaining in many years. Agreed. Any football fan who has boycotted has missed out big time for fuck all, but that's just my opinion
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Post by Rose City Potter on Dec 10, 2022 17:54:54 GMT
How have the people who proposed to boycott the current Men's World Cup fared? Not sure how a boycott works these days with all the access to internet news, social media, TV coverage etc, pretty hard to avoid it all together? Is it just a case of not watching any live games or highlights on television, not buying any merchandise or products from FIFA sponsors? If you've boycotted, fair enough, but you've certainly missed a very good tournament so far. What do you think your boycott has achieved, on a personal and a broader level? I decided to boycott. This is basically just not watching/listening to any of the coverage. I wouldn’t buy merchandise anyway. Very easy to do. Canada were getting plenty of coverage in the news here until they went out, now just avoid the sports channel that it’s on at that time, easy during the week because it’s the middle of the day here. I’m a big Rugby fan and also follow Ice Hockey so by difficult to find alternatives. I have stumbled across the odd story when reading news online but just scroll past it. I don’t use social media. As for what it’s achieved for me personally it’s saved a fortune in the boozer! I think more in terms that I feel that it was the right thing to do. With any issue the brighter the spotlight and more discussion is had the more likely that progress can be made.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 11, 2022 3:12:27 GMT
Blimey it's been all over the news for a good Yr or two regarding the deaths. Were people killed building Wembley This is a bit like Veganism/Vegetarianism You announce it, no one cares but have to do it again until someone might be the slightest bit interested as you need to feel like you're doing something and feel the need to announce it How many people died building Wembley? Were they worked to death or did they die in tragic accidents? Were their families compensated for said accidents? Have other workers on Wembley suffered work related diseases? The truth is, and you know it, is that the 2 are nowhere near comparable.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 11, 2022 6:15:39 GMT
Fantastic 6 nil victory against France last night for anyone boycotting the WC.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 11, 2022 7:15:07 GMT
I will be boycotting from now on! No way am I getting up at 3 am again! 😏
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