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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 27, 2024 1:02:22 GMT
He's been mentioning Harry for a while now (just not at the round table ever) and if he wasn't going to he comfortable to stand at the end with him (which he seemed to indicate at several points tonight), then yes he needs to say something and fight his corner. It's literally the point of the show and it was his absolute final chance. Like I said, well done for him guessing who they were but remember, he actually didn't get any of them out at any point. The only people who got the traitors out were other traitors (with tie exception of Ross, although they specifically seduced him BECAUSE they knew he was next to go). So, I agree that he's getting plaudits he probably shouldn't be Jaz has basically sussed them all from the start and spent the whole series not doing anything about any of them. Don't get me wrong, I like him a lot but his inaction was absolutely infuriating. Like I say, there's absultely zero point of knowing who they are if you're not acting on it. He literally helped the traitors win by sitting back and saying nothing to anyone. I think Jaz was playing to win - not just getting traitors out. He suspected people but didn't bring them up unless he was confident. Often only shared his thoughts in small trusted circles too. He could have been more outspoken but that didn't work for Zach or Diane. So I think he was playing the game pretty safe hoping to get to the final table and then lay down his thoughts. Where he went wrong was not using the leverage of other players to go on Harry when he could. Evie was heading out so would have had to voted Harry to save herself leaving it 2v2. The group thought at least one traitor remained so Andrew should have known that he likely needed Harry gone to win. So if there was a time that was the time. Still think Jaz did well up to that point and even after. He played a very good game and how far he got was testament to that. Maybe could have done his end game better but had he mentioned it earlier he would have been slaughtered instead of Zach who was blindsided by Harry. Yeah, it was his endgame that seemed to have no real thought behind it at all As I've said, I totally see why he took the route he did with Paul and was patient but when it's the last day, the last round table, you HAVE to go for it then. The other players are going to be banishing anyway, so you have to take that opportunity, especially if you think there's two left. I was just surprised at how weak he was even when he did mention Harry tonight to be honest. If I was Mollie, then Jaz had given me absolutely no real reason at all to vote for Harry and it's all well and good Jaz knowing but he needs to convince others too. He isn't getting anyone out with just his vote.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 1:06:15 GMT
He's been mentioning Harry for a while now (just not at the round table ever) and if he wasn't going to he comfortable to stand at the end with him (which he seemed to indicate at several points tonight), then yes he needs to say something and fight his corner. It's literally the point of the show and it was his absolute final chance. Like I said, well done for him guessing who they were but remember, he actually didn't get any of them out at any point. The only people who got the traitors out were other traitors (with tie exception of Ross, although they specifically seduced him BECAUSE they knew he was next to go). So, I agree that he's getting plaudits he probably shouldn't be Jaz has basically sussed them all from the start and spent the whole series not doing anything about any of them. Don't get me wrong, I like him a lot but his inaction was absolutely infuriating. Like I say, there's absultely zero point of knowing who they are if you're not acting on it. He literally helped the traitors win by sitting back and saying nothing to anyone. I think Jaz was playing to win - not just getting traitors out. He suspected people but didn't bring them up unless he was confident. Often only shared his thoughts in small trusted circles too. He could have been more outspoken but that didn't work for Zach or Diane. So I think he was playing the game pretty safe hoping to get to the final table and then lay down his thoughts. Where he went wrong was not using the leverage of other players to go on Harry when he could. Evie was heading out so would have had to voted Harry to save herself leaving it 2v2. The group thought at least one traitor remained so Andrew should have known that he likely needed Harry gone to win. So if there was a time that was the time. Still think Jaz did well up to that point and even after. He played a very good game and how far he got was testament to that. Maybe could have done his end game better but had he mentioned it earlier he would have been slaughtered instead of Zach who was blindsided by Harry. Yes 100%. The fact that he actually went to Mollie (of all people) earlier in the day and told her that he was going to ask a question of someone he suspected and that she should watch for th8s person's reaction, showed that he was acting extremely strategically, whilst at the same time, protecting himself from attack, by not revealing to her in advance, who his suspect was.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 27, 2024 1:11:56 GMT
One thing's for sure though, this episode showed I could never be a decent traitor.
If I'd got close to someone in there like Harry and Mollie did (I think they genuinely did really like each other, although in different ways) and known they'd already had a relatively hard life for someone so young and seen them across the table, looking straight at me crying saying "You're not are you?" I think I'd have crumbled entirely. I genuinely don't think I could do that to someone.
Or if I was a faithful I'd be murdered first day for fucking boring everyone to tears.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 1:20:08 GMT
It's a brilliant show, light years ahead of any other reality TV.
But what gets me is, they finished recording it 6 months ago, how have they managed to keep the result under wraps for so long, when you consider that there were originally 17 contestants, combined with all their families (at least) and friends and not one of them have spilled for £20k to the Sun etc.?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 27, 2024 2:01:36 GMT
It's a brilliant show, light years ahead of any other reality TV.
But what gets me is, they finished recording it 6 months ago, how have they managed to keep the result under wraps for so long, when you consider that there were originally 17 contestants, combined with all their families (at least) and friends and not one of them have spilled for £20k to the Sun etc.?
They aren't supposed to even tell family/friends are they? I remember last year Aaron saying it was the hardest part of the whole experience and the fact he'd won just so he could take all his family on holiday together and it was only after the show had aired that he could do so, as they found out the same time the rest of us did. This year's was filmed about 6 months ago, whereas I think the first series was about 8-9 months they had to keep quiet for. And you're right. It is the best reality TV show by a mile. I just pray it doesn't turn into another Big Brother/The Apprentice where it just gets infested by people who are absolutely desperate to be on TV and we end up with Instagram influencers and wannabe celebs.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 2:12:35 GMT
It's a brilliant show, light years ahead of any other reality TV.
But what gets me is, they finished recording it 6 months ago, how have they managed to keep the result under wraps for so long, when you consider that there were originally 17 contestants, combined with all their families (at least) and friends and not one of them have spilled for £20k to the Sun etc.?
They aren't supposed to even tell family/friends are they?I remember last year Aaron saying it was the hardest part of the whole experience and the fact he'd won just so he could take all his family on holiday together and it was only after the show had aired that he could do so, as they found out the same time the rest of us did. This year's was filmed about 6 months ago, whereas I think the first series was about 8-9 months they had to keep quiet for. And you're right. It is the best reality TV show by a mile. I just pray it doesn't turn into another Big Brother/The Apprentice where it just gets infested by people who are absolutely desperate to be on TV and we end up with Instagram influencers and wannabe celebs.
But absolutely anybody would, wouldn't they and what is there there to stop them?
At the end of the day the show is called Traitors!
I'm just wondering if there is some sort of monetary incentive, to keep them schtum until the show has aired?
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Post by mrnovember on Jan 27, 2024 7:29:06 GMT
Echo the sentiments above really, it's brilliant telly. It might be my rampant jingoism talking but the UK version is streets ahead of the other English language versions I've watched.
Partly because of the production style and the benefits of being ad free, but I think the key difference is the casting. The stories write themselves. I hope the BBC commits to casting such genuine and ostensibly decent people who pretty much all have a story to tell.
Content hungry, diversity obsessed Hollywood and streaming services can learn a thing or two, too. Reality is outstripping imagination here which is insane really. Just write a good story and give us the characters and archs to carry it you daft bastards!
Anyway, well done to Harry who played a flawless game and it's hard to argue he didn't deserve to win.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 27, 2024 8:52:29 GMT
It's superb, not seen a reality TV show like it since the early days of Big Brother. Absolute breath of fresh air.
They get almost everything right for me. They've also seen certain aspects from last year and improved them - the tasks for instance have been a lot more engaging this time around - though I still think there could be more jeopardy there.
Format of it being on over 4 weeks, Weds-Fri keeps you in suspense and is not too overbearing. Easy to catch up if needed.
Contestants have their own personal stories but they aren't forced on you every episode and are allowed to come out organically.
The casting is excellent, just feels like a truly representative selection of 'normal(ish)' people from across the UK.
And the host is perfect.
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 27, 2024 9:07:18 GMT
It's superb, not seen a reality TV show like it since the early days of Big Brother. Absolute breath of fresh air. They get almost everything right for me. They've also seen certain aspects from last year and improved them - the tasks for instance have been a lot more engaging this time around - though I still think there could be more jeopardy there. Format of it being on over 4 weeks, Weds-Fri keeps you in suspense and is not too overbearing. Easy to catch up if needed. Contestants have their own personal stories but they aren't forced on you every episode and are allowed to come out organically. The casting is excellent, just feels like a truly representative selection of 'normal(ish)' people from across the UK. And the host is perfect. Definitely been a better series. The last one was ruined for me by the blatant rule breaking in the final from Keiran though which tainted the whole series. The tasks could definitely be more critical to the end game too - I could happily fast forward past them and feel like I've missed very little.
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Post by lordb on Jan 27, 2024 9:33:38 GMT
The Aussie series one was better than the UK series 1 Going to tart on their series 2
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Post by mrnovember on Jan 27, 2024 9:47:43 GMT
The Aussie series one was better than the UK series 1 Going to tart on their series 2 I'd be interested to read your thoughts.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 28, 2024 17:27:09 GMT
I’ve only just caught up. Superb television.
Mollie has done my head in throughout the series but I think people are being really harsh on her. It’s not as simple as Jaz wouldn’t vote to vote again if he was a traitor. She clearly thought they both were faithfuls and didn’t want to cut her friend Harry out of the money. Easy to say love is blind when she was actually being lied to convincingly throughout. Also, it could also have been a play from Jaz to get more money.
People similarly harsh on Jaz, who was really unlucky. He knew he couldn’t just go all guns blazing with his theories because you end up murdered or banished, or pissing everyone off (see Zach). He was always spot on with his suspicions and I’m pleased he wasn’t fooled by Harry for his own personal arc on the show with that story about his father.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 28, 2024 18:42:04 GMT
I’ve only just caught up. Superb television. Mollie has done my head in throughout the series but I think people are being really harsh on her. It’s not as simple as Jaz wouldn’t vote to vote again if he was a traitor. She clearly thought they both were faithfuls and didn’t want to cut her friend Harry out of the money. Easy to say love is blind when she was actually being lied to convincingly throughout. Also, it could also have been a play from Jaz to get more money. Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time.
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Post by lordb on Jan 28, 2024 18:46:08 GMT
I’ve only just caught up. Superb television. Mollie has done my head in throughout the series but I think people are being really harsh on her. It’s not as simple as Jaz wouldn’t vote to vote again if he was a traitor. She clearly thought they both were faithfuls and didn’t want to cut her friend Harry out of the money. Easy to say love is blind when she was actually being lied to convincingly throughout. Also, it could also have been a play from Jaz to get more money. Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. Logically yes but it's not an exercise in pure logic Humans have developed as group animals as such our instinct is to trust She was in a stressful position, I think many would have made the same mistake
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 28, 2024 21:02:52 GMT
Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. Logically yes but it's not an exercise in pure logic Humans have developed as group animals as such our instinct is to trust She was in a stressful position, I think many would have made the same mistake Absolutely mate. But that wasn't the point being argued.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 28, 2024 21:04:58 GMT
I’ve only just caught up. Superb television. Mollie has done my head in throughout the series but I think people are being really harsh on her. It’s not as simple as Jaz wouldn’t vote to vote again if he was a traitor. She clearly thought they both were faithfuls and didn’t want to cut her friend Harry out of the money. Easy to say love is blind when she was actually being lied to convincingly throughout. Also, it could also have been a play from Jaz to get more money. Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. What, if he was a faithful? They would have split the pot 3 ways, so voting out another faithful would have benefited him.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 28, 2024 21:11:27 GMT
I’ve only just caught up. Superb television. Mollie has done my head in throughout the series but I think people are being really harsh on her. It’s not as simple as Jaz wouldn’t vote to vote again if he was a traitor. She clearly thought they both were faithfuls and didn’t want to cut her friend Harry out of the money. Easy to say love is blind when she was actually being lied to convincingly throughout. Also, it could also have been a play from Jaz to get more money. Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. Took me about 30 minutes to explain this to my family over a roast today. You smashed it in 3 lines.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 28, 2024 21:12:29 GMT
Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. What, if he was a faithful? They would have split the pot 3 ways, so voting out another faithful would have benefited him. Behave Tommy, only a total mad man would risk being voted out completely (which is what actually happened) in order to increase his guaranteed share by 17%.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 28, 2024 21:13:27 GMT
Sorry mate, that theory just doesn't stand up. Jaz wouldn't need a play to get more money, he'd already have won it ALL anyway. No Traitor would have gone again at that point, perfectly demonstrated by the fact that Harry didn't do. Mollie messed up big time. What, if he was a faithful? They would have split the pot 3 ways, so voting out another faithful would have benefited him. Harry could have done that. Jaz couldn't because of the blinded by love bond Mollie had with Harry. The risk for Jaz to increase his share from 33% to 50% would have made zero sense.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 28, 2024 21:23:05 GMT
What, if he was a faithful? They would have split the pot 3 ways, so voting out another faithful would have benefited him. Behave Tommy, only a total mad man would risk being voted out completely (which is what actually happened) in order to increase his guaranteed share by 17%. But he could have done it. They have all proven time and again they aren't the smartest. Besides the point really anyway, the other reason I gave was why she voted for Jaz.
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Post by lordb on Jan 28, 2024 21:25:13 GMT
Aussie Traitors season 1 was better than UK series 1 But Aussie series 2 has followed the US version of sticking z list celebs in and bimbos, looking really shit, shame
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 28, 2024 22:01:27 GMT
Mollie got played at the end of the day, taken in by a pretty face and she blatantly fancied him. It's not like Harry wasn't 100% aware of what he was doing.
Absolutely zero logic from her (she turned down a guaranteed £45k) but she'll be wiser from it. Shame for Jaz who played a great game as an intelligent faithful.
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Post by skip on Jan 29, 2024 15:54:11 GMT
They aren't supposed to even tell family/friends are they?I remember last year Aaron saying it was the hardest part of the whole experience and the fact he'd won just so he could take all his family on holiday together and it was only after the show had aired that he could do so, as they found out the same time the rest of us did. This year's was filmed about 6 months ago, whereas I think the first series was about 8-9 months they had to keep quiet for. And you're right. It is the best reality TV show by a mile. I just pray it doesn't turn into another Big Brother/The Apprentice where it just gets infested by people who are absolutely desperate to be on TV and we end up with Instagram influencers and wannabe celebs. But absolutely anybody would, wouldn't they and what is there there to stop them? At the end of the day the show is called Traitors!
I'm just wondering if there is some sort of monetary incentive, to keep them schtum until the show has aired?
Initial performance and broadcast fees all dependent on an NDA, I'm led to believe. A friend of mine was on Master Chef, and whilst 100k isn't up for grabs, the possibility of life changing work opportunities are, and he couldn't say a sausage about how well or badly he'd done.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 29, 2024 16:56:03 GMT
Logically yes but it's not an exercise in pure logic Humans have developed as group animals as such our instinct is to trust She was in a stressful position, I think many would have made the same mistake Absolutely mate. But that wasn't the point being argued. The point is though is that if Mollie didn't think there were any traitors left, she still HAS to vote anyway because Jaz chose to banish again. She has no choice then but to just choose who she'd rather share the money with if she genuinely thinks both are faithfuls. The whole "Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor because he wanted to banish again, so she should have voted for Harry daft bint" idea ONLY works if the players KNEW there was still a traitor left. They didn't, quite simply. In fact Mollie stated a few times that she (like all of them apart from Jaz) was working under the assumption there was one traitor left and he'd just been voted out (Andrew). Jaz just suspected there was a traitor left and Mollie thought all 3 were faithful. Jaz put her in that position of having to vote again after he'd done literally bugger all to try to convince Mollie there was still one left. He asked Harry a question at the table and then accepted Harry's answer. Didn't push him on it at all and never pushed anything at any point after. That's the point I've been saying for days. Just Jaz knowing (or thinking he knows) means literally zero in this game. You have to convince other people to vote with you, you can't just expect them to agree with you for no reason. When Claudia asked Jaz why he wanted to banish again that last time, he needed to do what Andrew had done earlier and be clear and actually give Mollie some kind of a reason to believe there was still a traitor left. He didn't do that in any way at all. He shrugged his shoulders and said "cos of what I said earlier really"
Yes, Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor but if she's going on the idea of "they're both faithfuls" then her voting for Jaz isn't a vote for the traitor, it's voting for who she wants/doesn't want to share the money with. She clearly didn't think either were traitors, hence her wanting to end the game already. Jaz suspecting there was one left in no way meant that there was actually WAS one left and that therefore Mollie HAD to vote for Harry.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 29, 2024 17:57:36 GMT
One more reason to love this show.... It's finally given us an Oatcake thread where, even when people disagree with each other, there's no insults, no screaming and shouting at each other and no use of the terms woke/bigot/snowflake/racist or libtard! Who'd have thought that a show that's wholly centered around dishonesty, deception and intentionally ruining other people's chance of fortune could unite us all
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 29, 2024 20:54:12 GMT
Absolutely mate. But that wasn't the point being argued. The point is though is that if Mollie didn't think there were any traitors left, she still HAS to vote anyway because Jaz chose to banish again. She has no choice then but to just choose who she'd rather share the money with if she genuinely thinks both are faithfuls. The whole "Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor because he wanted to banish again, so she should have voted for Harry daft bint" idea ONLY works if the players KNEW there was still a traitor left. They didn't, quite simply. In fact Mollie stated a few times that she (like all of them apart from Jaz) was working under the assumption there was one traitor left and he'd just been voted out (Andrew). Jaz just suspected there was a traitor left and Mollie thought all 3 were faithful. Jaz put her in that position of having to vote again after he'd done literally bugger all to try to convince Mollie there was still one left. He asked Harry a question at the table and then accepted Harry's answer. Didn't push him on it at all and never pushed anything at any point after. That's the point I've been saying for days. Just Jaz knowing (or thinking he knows) means literally zero in this game. You have to convince other people to vote with you, you can't just expect them to agree with you for no reason. When Claudia asked Jaz why he wanted to banish again that last time, he needed to do what Andrew had done earlier and be clear and actually give Mollie some kind of a reason to believe there was still a traitor left. He didn't do that in any way at all. He shrugged his shoulders and said "cos of what I said earlier really"
Yes, Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor but if she's going on the idea of "they're both faithfuls" then her voting for Jaz isn't a vote for the traitor, it's voting for who she wants/doesn't want to share the money with. She clearly didn't think either were traitors, hence her wanting to end the game already. Jaz suspecting there was one left in no way meant that there was actually WAS one left and that therefore Mollie HAD to vote for Harry.
Nope.
If Mollie really did believe that they were both faithfuls, how could she explain Jaz wanting to go again?
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 29, 2024 21:18:52 GMT
It was just an idiotic thing to do on Mollie's part. You are on a show where at least 3 people are actively lying to your face after all.
She got offered a guaranteed £45k and turned it down as she got her head turned. There wasnt any logic going on - it was purely emotion lead.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 29, 2024 21:32:29 GMT
The point is though is that if Mollie didn't think there were any traitors left, she still HAS to vote anyway because Jaz chose to banish again. She has no choice then but to just choose who she'd rather share the money with if she genuinely thinks both are faithfuls. The whole "Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor because he wanted to banish again, so she should have voted for Harry daft bint" idea ONLY works if the players KNEW there was still a traitor left. They didn't, quite simply. In fact Mollie stated a few times that she (like all of them apart from Jaz) was working under the assumption there was one traitor left and he'd just been voted out (Andrew). Jaz just suspected there was a traitor left and Mollie thought all 3 were faithful. Jaz put her in that position of having to vote again after he'd done literally bugger all to try to convince Mollie there was still one left. He asked Harry a question at the table and then accepted Harry's answer. Didn't push him on it at all and never pushed anything at any point after. That's the point I've been saying for days. Just Jaz knowing (or thinking he knows) means literally zero in this game. You have to convince other people to vote with you, you can't just expect them to agree with you for no reason. When Claudia asked Jaz why he wanted to banish again that last time, he needed to do what Andrew had done earlier and be clear and actually give Mollie some kind of a reason to believe there was still a traitor left. He didn't do that in any way at all. He shrugged his shoulders and said "cos of what I said earlier really"
Yes, Mollie should have known Jaz wasn't a traitor but if she's going on the idea of "they're both faithfuls" then her voting for Jaz isn't a vote for the traitor, it's voting for who she wants/doesn't want to share the money with. She clearly didn't think either were traitors, hence her wanting to end the game already. Jaz suspecting there was one left in no way meant that there was actually WAS one left and that therefore Mollie HAD to vote for Harry.
Nope.
If Mollie really did believe that they were both faithfuls, how could she explain Jaz wanting to go again?
Because Jaz thought there was a traitor? Jaz knew he was faithful himself, believed Mollie was faithful but didn't believe Harry was. She'd said she thought there was one traitor left going into the last day and Andrew had just gone. Jaz was the only one there who thought there were 2 left That doesn't mean Jaz was right though. We know he was but Mollie hadn't seen all the footage that we did and she thought they were both faithfuls. Jaz believing Harry was a traitor didn't mean he definitely was.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 29, 2024 21:47:48 GMT
Nope.
If Mollie really did believe that they were both faithfuls, how could she explain Jaz wanting to go again?
Because Jaz thought there was a traitor? Jaz knew he was faithful himself, believed Mollie was faithful but didn't believe Harry was. She'd said she thought there was one traitor left going into the last day and Andrew had just gone. Jaz was the only one there who thought there were 2 left That doesn't mean Jaz was right though. We know he was but Mollie hadn't seen all the footage that we did and she thought they were both faithfuls. Jaz believing Harry was a traitor didn't mean he definitely was.
So she had indeed worked out that Jaz couldn't (by his actions) be a traitor and that he had just simply made a mistake in suggesting that there actually was one left, so it was he who had to go for making that mistake, rather than Harry, who was on the same page as her in believing that all three of them were faithful?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 29, 2024 21:52:05 GMT
Because Jaz thought there was a traitor? Jaz knew he was faithful himself, believed Mollie was faithful but didn't believe Harry was. She'd said she thought there was one traitor left going into the last day and Andrew had just gone. Jaz was the only one there who thought there were 2 left That doesn't mean Jaz was right though. We know he was but Mollie hadn't seen all the footage that we did and she thought they were both faithfuls. Jaz believing Harry was a traitor didn't mean he definitely was.
So she had indeed worked out that Jaz couldn't (by his actions) be a traitor and that he had just simply made a mistake in suggesting that there actually was one left, so it was he who had to go for making that mistake, rather than Harry, who was on the same page as her in believing that all three of them were faithful?
If she (or anyone in that position) believes there are no traitors left, then as far as she's concerned she's having to get rid of a faithful and will then share the money with the other. In that position it's pretty obvious she's going to choose the person she's closest to and spent more time with isn't it? She HAS t o vote for someone, she clearly 100% thought they were both faithful which is why she chose to end the game. I don't get why you think that just because Jaz thought there was a traitor left then that somehow means Mollie must 100% believe he's right about it.
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