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Post by musik on Aug 3, 2024 10:43:19 GMT
So in England the Police are being attacked by the non immigrants?
In Sweden it's the opposite, the police are only attacked by the immigrants.
It seems you have another development.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 3, 2024 10:51:02 GMT
I agree with his post but it's rich coming from a man who threatened to kill his ex wife and burn her parent's house down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 10:54:41 GMT
So in England the Police are being attacked by the non immigrants? In Sweden it's the opposite, the police are only attacked by the immigrants. It seems you have another development. In reality, they’re attacked by everyone. It’s a tough job. Wonder how much of the city’s resources need to be diverted to rebuild that? I’m sure the people out there yesterday because they have felt left behind will understand that now the area just needs to spend more money putting it back to where it was (a position that they didn’t like). Rioters are morons.
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Post by musik on Aug 3, 2024 12:23:54 GMT
So in England the Police are being attacked by the non immigrants? In Sweden it's the opposite, the police are only attacked by the immigrants. It seems you have another development. In reality, they’re attacked by everyone. It’s a tough job. Wonder how much of the city’s resources need to be diverted to rebuild that? I’m sure the people out there yesterday because they have felt left behind will understand that now the area just needs to spend more money putting it back to where it was (a position that they didn’t like). Rioters are morons. Yepp. It's never a solution. Not to anything.
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Post by wolfinsheepsclothing on Aug 3, 2024 13:12:03 GMT
Apparently there is a bit of mither in Hanley 🤷
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Post by metalhead on Aug 3, 2024 14:08:35 GMT
Apparently there is a bit of mither in Hanley 🤷 Counter protesters apparently.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 3, 2024 17:21:57 GMT
Great tune. Tomorrow you're homeless Tonight's it's a blast
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Post by starkiller on Aug 3, 2024 18:12:14 GMT
Whatever the rights or wrongs, the government failed to address the concerns of the British public l, who have been gaslighted for decades, and instead picked a fight with them. That was the final straw for many, and for them it's game on. And it won't stop until their concerns are generally addressed. Like it or not, that's where we're at. And this time, any Draconian measures will only increase the anger.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 4, 2024 14:35:56 GMT
The personal stuff on here has really got out of hand. So sad to see this.
There are loads of posts on this thread that have no substance, and no attempt to present any argument, only personal comments. It's not healthy for anyone tbh.
Can't we just cut the snidey comments and personal attacks please?
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Post by werrington on Aug 4, 2024 14:49:46 GMT
The personal stuff on here has really got out of hand. So sad to see this. There are loads of posts on this thread that have no substance, and no attempt to present any argument, only personal comments. It's not healthy for anyone tbh. Can't we just cut the snidey comments and personal attacks please? People are just so entrenched mate There’s literally no give in many discussions
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Post by lordb on Aug 4, 2024 14:52:53 GMT
Fascism in action and people want discussions?
Jesus H
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 4, 2024 15:11:32 GMT
The personal stuff on here has really got out of hand. So sad to see this. There are loads of posts on this thread that have no substance, and no attempt to present any argument, only personal comments. It's not healthy for anyone tbh. Can't we just cut the snidey comments and personal attacks please? People are just so entrenched mate There’s literally no give in many discussions Yes I can see that mate, and I get it that feelings are running high. Having a strong opinion is one thing, but engaging in a barrage of childish, personal snidey comments is quite another. Whatever folk feel about the Oatcake, its gives people an opportunity to air their opinions however unsavoury they may be to others, but posts that are solely aimed at people's characters and nothing else is just basically killing off this forum unless that is what we want to do. It cant be only someone else's responsibility all of the time.
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Post by gawa on Aug 12, 2024 9:45:03 GMT
Taking the piss now coming over in ford transits
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Post by elystokie on Aug 12, 2024 12:02:38 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 12, 2024 12:07:11 GMT
Taking the piss now coming over in ford transits Right colour but its not exactly James Bonds Lotus is it 😀
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Post by starkiller on Aug 12, 2024 13:02:32 GMT
Another 700 criminals arrived just yesterday. Not including the trucks.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 12, 2024 13:53:23 GMT
Whatever the rights or wrongs, the government failed to address the concerns of the British public l, who have been gaslighted for decades, and instead picked a fight with them. That was the final straw for many, and for them it's game on. And it won't stop until their concerns are generally addressed. Like it or not, that's where we're at. And this time, any Draconian measures will only increase the anger. So people attacking police officers, looting shops, threatening to burn down hotels with people in them and causing damage should be let off? It doesn't matter what has pissed you off a criminal offence is a criminal offence and if you break the law you will get what's coming to you. If I attack a police officer or threaten to burn down the offices of Severn Trent and claim it was because I'm angry about what the water companies have been doing to the rivers (which I am by the way) should I be let off as well? If governments just cave in every time someone riots over something they are angry about what exactly do you think will happen? And for once please answer the question.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 12, 2024 14:10:07 GMT
Whatever the rights or wrongs, the government failed to address the concerns of the British public l, who have been gaslighted for decades, and instead picked a fight with them. That was the final straw for many, and for them it's game on. And it won't stop until their concerns are generally addressed. Like it or not, that's where we're at. And this time, any Draconian measures will only increase the anger. So people attacking police officers, looting shops, threatening to burn down hotels with people in them and causing damage should be let off? It doesn't matter what has pissed you off a criminal offence is a criminal offence and if you break the law you will get what's coming to you. If I attack a police officer or threaten to burn down the offices of Severn Trent and claim it was because I'm angry about what the water companies have been doing to the rivers (which I am by the way) should I be let off as well? If governments just cave in every time someone riots over something they are angry about what exactly do you think will happen? And for once please answer the question. Well I never condoned riots, merely suggested that those of a certain mindset might be enraged to do so. And I agree that criminal actions like attacking police officers, looting, or threatening violence are unacceptable and should be dealt with according to the law. It's equally crucial for the government to recognise and engage with the underlying concerns that drive people to such extremes in the first place. So far this government has done none of this. Ignoring these issues or responding only with punitive measures, that could be seen as encroaching into the shutting down of debate, may further inflame tensions and lead to a cycle of unrest. Enforce the law fairly, by all means, but create space for dialogue and addressing the root causes of public dissatisfaction that should not simply be caricatured as 'racist' or 'far right'.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 12, 2024 14:53:07 GMT
So people attacking police officers, looting shops, threatening to burn down hotels with people in them and causing damage should be let off? It doesn't matter what has pissed you off a criminal offence is a criminal offence and if you break the law you will get what's coming to you. If I attack a police officer or threaten to burn down the offices of Severn Trent and claim it was because I'm angry about what the water companies have been doing to the rivers (which I am by the way) should I be let off as well? If governments just cave in every time someone riots over something they are angry about what exactly do you think will happen? And for once please answer the question. Well I never condoned riots, merely suggested that those of a certain mindset might be enraged to do so. And I agree that criminal actions like attacking police officers, looting, or threatening violence are unacceptable and should be dealt with according to the law. It's equally crucial for the government to recognize and engage with the underlying concerns that drive people to such extremes in the first place. So far this government has done none of this. Ignoring these issues or responding only with punitive measures, that could be seen as encroaching into the shutting down of debate, may further inflame tensions and lead to a cycle of unrest. Enforce the law fairly, by all means, but create space for dialogue and addressing the root causes of public dissatisfaction that should not simply be caricatured as 'racist' or 'far right'. This government has only been in post for a few weeks - any build up in tensions is down to the last government. I'm pretty sure the government will sit down with communities and engage about root cause as discussed in this article BBC News - Keir Starmer will be judged on response to causes of UK riots - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ykr900my8oThe issue at the moment is making it clear that rioting is not an acceptable way of raising concerns even if they are legitimate. What Starmer is doing now is exactly what he did as Chief Prosecutor over the riots in 2011 - stop the rioting and then address the concerns.
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Post by phileetin on Aug 12, 2024 15:27:17 GMT
last gov't gave rise to tensions is crap , the brexit vote was also about immigration and taking control of the borders .
tony blair opened the doors to mass eu immigration .
labour are now reaping what they sowed
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Post by stokeson on Aug 12, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
last gov't gave rise to tensions is crap , the brexit vote was also about immigration and taking control of the borders . tony blair opened the doors to mass eu immigration . labour are now reaping what they sowed Sorry did i miss the last 14years.......
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Post by phileetin on Aug 12, 2024 15:43:56 GMT
sorry , tories tried to create deterrents but labour and human rights activists stopped them
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Post by elystokie on Aug 12, 2024 15:59:46 GMT
sorry , tories tried to create deterrents but labour and human rights activists stopped them Rwanda went ahead didn't it? Would've been cheaper to buy all deported there a house in Essex and give them a lifetime pension and a chauffeur but it went ahead.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 12, 2024 16:06:31 GMT
sorry , tories tried to create deterrents but labour and human rights activists stopped them Tories only help eachother make more money out of taxpayers. The Tories didn't create anything, they spent a lot of money on nothing being done.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 12, 2024 16:52:30 GMT
Absolute disgrace 😡
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 12, 2024 16:54:51 GMT
700 on boats, ON BOATS, in one day! Let that one sink in. No pun intended.
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Post by 4372 on Aug 12, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
We have just had the election. Stand down, watch the cricket, enjoy the weather.
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Post by milton58 on Aug 12, 2024 17:00:18 GMT
wtf are the french and our border forces doing if that went on for a month that would be 30k illegals..how would this country cope
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Post by elystokie on Aug 12, 2024 17:05:00 GMT
wtf are the french and our border forces doing if that went on for a month that would be 30k illegals..how would this country cope I take it you weren't a fan of maths at school 🤔
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 12, 2024 17:09:45 GMT
We have just had the election. Stand down, watch the cricket, enjoy the weather. Is that what Starmers doing? Pathetic dereliction of duty
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