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Post by elystokie on Jul 14, 2023 19:01:50 GMT
Renewables are producing 53.7% of the power required at this moment in time, this is the peak demand period usually. Live updates here - grid.iamkate.com/Actually. Electricity is only a smallish part of a countries energy requirements so it’s not the whole story. But yeah renewables do and will provide a large part of the solution. Personally I'd build the turbines, solar panel mounts, batteries etc out of hemp and capture a load of C02 while making a superior, longer lasting product. But we'll probably carry on digging stuff up. |
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Post by wannabee on Jul 14, 2023 19:10:36 GMT
My first and possibly last comment on this Fred
Are these Activists still Dorks or now Realists in light of current Heatwaves in Europe and US or is the intensity and frequency of these Heatwaves something that we should have no concern for.
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Post by knype on Jul 14, 2023 19:13:13 GMT
My first and possibly last comment on this Fred Are these Activists still Dorks or now Realists in light of current Heatwaves in Europe and US or is the intensity and frequency of these Heatwaves something that we should have no concern for. Or its summer season? It'll be cold in November too. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 14, 2023 19:33:36 GMT
My first and possibly last comment on this Fred Are these Activists still Dorks or now Realists in light of current Heatwaves in Europe and US or is the intensity and frequency of these Heatwaves something that we should have no concern for. Or its summer season? It'll be cold in November too. Or maybe it won't. Last Armistice Day recorded temperatures above 20 c in the UK for the first time and the 10 warmest Novembers since records began have all been in the last 18 years. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2023 19:35:19 GMT
Or its summer season? It'll be cold in November too. Or maybe it won't. Last Armistice Day recorded temperatures above 20 c in the UK for the first time and the 10 warmest Novembers since records began have all been in the last 18 years. Don’t tell Bayernoatcake, he thinks stats are useless😉 |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 14, 2023 19:38:10 GMT
Or maybe it won't. Last Armistice Day recorded temperatures above 20 c in the UK for the first time and the 10 warmest Novembers since records began have all been in the last 18 years. Don’t tell Bayernoatcake, he thinks stats are useless😉 Mostly when they overwhelmingly contradict his opinions on goalkeepers. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 14, 2023 19:45:15 GMT
My first and possibly last comment on this Fred Are these Activists still Dorks or now Realists in light of current Heatwaves in Europe and US or is the intensity and frequency of these Heatwaves something that we should have no concern for. You mean heatwaves in the middle of summer like they've had for thousands of years? Got to love how when it's a typically shit wet British summer, those in certain sections of the propaganda machine quickly divert attention to other parts of Europe in an attempt to scare Brits shitless. Thankfully most Brits are intelligent enough to continue enjoying their holidays, safe in the knowledge that it's always steaming in the Mediterranean in July - The very reason they've chosen to go on holiday. Fuck green dorks. A bunch of absolute dweebs who should be doing what ordinary teenagers and twenty somethings do - Stuff like travelling, playing sport, earning cash, drinking, fucking and having a good time. They are a noisy minority that most Brits despise and even the centre left (which is sadly the entirety of Parliament) are starting to distance themselves from - Probably recognising it isn't a vote winner. |
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Post by Foster on Jul 14, 2023 20:08:54 GMT
My first and possibly last comment on this Fred Are these Activists still Dorks or now Realists in light of current Heatwaves in Europe and US or is the intensity and frequency of these Heatwaves something that we should have no concern for. You mean heatwaves in the middle of summer like they've had for thousands of years? Got to love how when it's a typically shit wet British summer, those in certain sections of the propaganda machine quickly divert attention to other parts of Europe in an attempt to scare Brits shitless. Thankfully most Brits are intelligent enough to continue enjoying their holidays, safe in the knowledge that it's always steaming in the Mediterranean in July - The very reason they've chosen to go on holiday. Fuck green dorks. A bunch of absolute dweebs who should be doing what ordinary teenagers and twenty somethings do - Stuff like travelling, playing sport, earning cash, drinking, fucking and having a good time. They are a noisy minority that most Brits despise and even the centre left (which is sadly the entirety of Parliament) are starting to distance themselves from - Probably recognising it isn't a vote winner. He wasn't talking to you mate.  |
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 14, 2023 20:18:25 GMT
Here’s a question. Do most people know they can invest in Green energy for as little as a hundred quid and (probably) make an ok return?
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Post by starkiller on Jul 14, 2023 20:19:42 GMT
Pollution is a problem. CO2 isn't. In climate con propaganda, billowing smoking chimneys are used to highlight CO2 emissions. CO2 is not a pollutant, is clear, odourless, and essential for all life on the planet. All smoke contains Carbon Dioxide and most flue gases contain 10-25% CO2. Car exhaust is about 14% for petrol engines. Excess CO2 makes the planet hotter. There is no excess CO2, and CO2 does not make the planet hotter. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 14, 2023 20:23:31 GMT
Here’s a question. Do most people know they can invest in Green energy for as little as a hundred quid and (probably) make an ok return? Like if I was a hardcore environmentalist* I’d probably put my energy and resources towards trying to sole the problem. Invest in the technologies that might help rather than just slowing down traffic and blarting on social media. *I’m a moderate environmentalist. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 20:25:15 GMT
All smoke contains Carbon Dioxide and most flue gases contain 10-25% CO2. Car exhaust is about 14% for petrol engines. Excess CO2 makes the planet hotter. There is no excess CO2, and CO2 does not make the planet hotter. 🤭 pfft |
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Post by knype on Jul 14, 2023 20:25:32 GMT
Here’s a question. Do most people know they can invest in Green energy for as little as a hundred quid and (probably) make an ok return? Define ok ? |
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 14, 2023 20:26:20 GMT
Here’s a question. Do most people know they can invest in Green energy for as little as a hundred quid and (probably) make an ok return? Define ok ? 5% inflation adjusted |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 14, 2023 20:27:53 GMT
All smoke contains Carbon Dioxide and most flue gases contain 10-25% CO2. Car exhaust is about 14% for petrol engines. Excess CO2 makes the planet hotter. There is no excess CO2, and CO2 does not make the planet hotter. CO2 does make the planet hotter. It is a 'greenhouse gas' which retains heat radiated from the earth in a way that oxygen and nitrogen does not. The more CO2 there is in the atmosphere the more heat is retained. |
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Post by starkiller on Jul 14, 2023 20:43:15 GMT
There is no excess CO2, and CO2 does not make the planet hotter. CO2 does make the planet hotter. It is a 'greenhouse gas' which retains heat radiated from the earth in a way that oxygen and nitrogen does not. The more CO2 there is in the atmosphere the more heat is retained. That's what the school textbook says. There is currently 0.04% CO2. Most of which is naturally occurring, as only about 3-4% of this 0.04% comes from human sources. The planet's greenhouse gas is water vapour. This greenhouse effect is also crucial to life on earth. It's a scam, it's always been a scam. It was planned as a scam to restrict and enslave the masses. Controlled media machine has now gone into another gear. |
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Post by wannabee on Jul 14, 2023 20:46:16 GMT
Haven't read the thread My question was prompted by the now annual excess heat breaking new records each year, forest fires etc. Not much sunbathing and fucking would be quite a challenge, especially at my age. Just on this page the amount of ignorence displayed confirms my previous suspicions .... not a place for me.  |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 14, 2023 20:59:30 GMT
CO2 does make the planet hotter. It is a 'greenhouse gas' which retains heat radiated from the earth in a way that oxygen and nitrogen does not. The more CO2 there is in the atmosphere the more heat is retained. That's what the school textbook says. There is currently 0.04% CO2. Most of which is naturally occurring, as only about 3-4% of this 0.04% comes from human sources. The planet's greenhouse gas is water vapour. This greenhouse effect is also crucial to life on earth. It's a scam, it's always been a scam. It was planned as a scam to restrict and enslave the masses. Controlled media machine has now gone into another gear. Correct to a point. However as the safe level of C02 in the atmosphere is considered to be 0.035% then we have a problem - particularly as is is increasing and we are simultaneously depleting the natural resources that absorb CO2 - meaning that the naturally occurring CO2 is also being retained in the atmosphere. I know you like your scams and conspiracies - perhaps you should spend a bit of time looking at who's been funding the climate denial lobby. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 21:01:43 GMT
CO2 does make the planet hotter. It is a 'greenhouse gas' which retains heat radiated from the earth in a way that oxygen and nitrogen does not. The more CO2 there is in the atmosphere the more heat is retained. That's what the school textbook says. There is currently 0.04% CO2. Most of which is naturally occurring, as only about 3-4% of this 0.04% comes from human sources. The planet's greenhouse gas is water vapour. This greenhouse effect is also crucial to life on earth. It's a scam, it's always been a scam. It was planned as a scam to restrict and enslave the masses. Controlled media machine has now gone into another gear. Do you want to explain this to those of us that stupidly thought we understood?  |
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Post by starkiller on Jul 14, 2023 21:15:17 GMT
That's what the school textbook says. There is currently 0.04% CO2. Most of which is naturally occurring, as only about 3-4% of this 0.04% comes from human sources. The planet's greenhouse gas is water vapour. This greenhouse effect is also crucial to life on earth. It's a scam, it's always been a scam. It was planned as a scam to restrict and enslave the masses. Controlled media machine has now gone into another gear. Do you want to explain this to those of us that stupidly thought we understood? This will briefly explain it. The graph you use is so broad in its timescale it doesn't show the nuance. Such a scale will obviously propagate the hoax. Very useful for the scam. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 21:32:19 GMT
Do you want to explain this to those of us that stupidly thought we understood? This will briefly explain it. The graph you use is so broad in its timescale it doesn't show the nuance. Such a scale will obviously propagate the hoax. Very useful for the scam. Can I just point out the first lie on the first video you posted. Patrick Moore was never a co-founder of Greenpeace although he often claims he was. Not a good start. He has also (since he became a "consultant") been paid by the Canadian Mining Company and Exxon Mobil. Why do you believe him ? Anyway I didn't ask you to post me another video. I want you to explain the science in a way one scientist would to another. Provide the evidence and some peer review and then I can decide to join your crusade. I'll understand I have an MSc in Physics. Just explain to me how it works. At the moment you are just posting videos from your social media feed. You do know twitter, YouTube etc. Just send more of the same content that you last watched don't you? |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 21:45:14 GMT
For the last 800,000 years the range of CO2 gas been 170-300ppm.
If CO2 lags heat, where is the temperature spike in the last 800 years that means CO2 is now at 420ppm?
CO2 is now higher than at any time in the last 800,000 years so where is the unprecedented spike in heat that caused it?
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Post by starkiller on Jul 14, 2023 21:50:50 GMT
This will briefly explain it. The graph you use is so broad in its timescale it doesn't show the nuance. Such a scale will obviously propagate the hoax. Very useful for the scam. Can I just point out the first lie on the first video you posted. Patrick Moore was never a co-founder of Greenpeace although he often claims he was. Not a good start. He has also (since he became a "consultant") been paid by the Canadian Mining Company and Exxon Mobil. Why do you believe him ? Anyway I didn't ask you to post me another video. I want you to explain the science in a way one scientist would to another. Provide the evidence and some peer review and then I can decide to join your crusade. I'll understand I have an MSc in Physics. Just explain to me how it works. At the moment you are just posting videos from your social media feed. You do know twitter, YouTube etc. Just send more of the same content that you last watched don't you? I don't think it's just one man putting forward these arguments. If you want to consider profiteering, have a look at Al Gore and his ilk. So you want me to write a scientific paper and bibliography just for you? As far as I see, I can't see anyone else having done this on here. Can't see this board lasting long with such a prerequisite for posts. As we both have done post-grad study, I know you'll be well aware of the basics of study. If you want to set about it on this topic, feel free. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2023 21:52:53 GMT
Can I just point out the first lie on the first video you posted. Patrick Moore was never a co-founder of Greenpeace although he often claims he was. Not a good start. He has also (since he became a "consultant") been paid by the Canadian Mining Company and Exxon Mobil. Why do you believe him ? Anyway I didn't ask you to post me another video. I want you to explain the science in a way one scientist would to another. Provide the evidence and some peer review and then I can decide to join your crusade. I'll understand I have an MSc in Physics. Just explain to me how it works. At the moment you are just posting videos from your social media feed. You do know twitter, YouTube etc. Just send more of the same content that you last watched don't you? I don't think it's just one man putting forward these arguments. If you want to consider profiteering, have a look at Al Gore and his ilk. So you want me to write a scientific paper and bibliography just for you? As far as I see, I can't see anyone else having done this on here. Can't see this board lasting long with such a prerequisite for posts. As we both have done post-grad study, I know you'll be well aware of the basics of study. If you want to set about it on this topic, feel free. Sounds like one for Sir Stans Statue |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 22:00:10 GMT
Can I just point out the first lie on the first video you posted. Patrick Moore was never a co-founder of Greenpeace although he often claims he was. Not a good start. He has also (since he became a "consultant") been paid by the Canadian Mining Company and Exxon Mobil. Why do you believe him ? Anyway I didn't ask you to post me another video. I want you to explain the science in a way one scientist would to another. Provide the evidence and some peer review and then I can decide to join your crusade. I'll understand I have an MSc in Physics. Just explain to me how it works. At the moment you are just posting videos from your social media feed. You do know twitter, YouTube etc. Just send more of the same content that you last watched don't you? I don't think it's just one man putting forward these arguments. If you want to consider profiteering, have a look at Al Gore and his ilk. So you want me to write a scientific paper and bibliography just for you? As far as I see, I can't see anyone else having done this on here. Can't see this board lasting long with such a prerequisite for posts. As we both have done post-grad study, I know you'll be well aware of the basics of study. If you want to set about it on this topic, feel free. I don't need a thesis just explain the >400ppm bit higher than ever, correct or is that wrong? |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 22:01:29 GMT
I don't think it's just one man putting forward these arguments. If you want to consider profiteering, have a look at Al Gore and his ilk. So you want me to write a scientific paper and bibliography just for you? As far as I see, I can't see anyone else having done this on here. Can't see this board lasting long with such a prerequisite for posts. As we both have done post-grad study, I know you'll be well aware of the basics of study. If you want to set about it on this topic, feel free. Sounds like one for Sir Stans Statue With whiteboards.🤣 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2023 22:02:36 GMT
Sounds like one for Sir Stans Statue With whiteboards.🤣 Naturally “Next slide please” |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 22:03:27 GMT
Naturally “Next slide please” Death by PowerPoint |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 14, 2023 22:06:03 GMT
Naturally “Next slide please” Death by PowerPoint Funnily that was one of my catchphrases around 3 years ago. THREE FUCKING YEARS! Gone and never forgotten. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 14, 2023 22:09:23 GMT
Funnily that was one of my catchphrases around 3 years ago. THREE FUCKING YEARS! Gone and never forgotten. I prefer to get my point across now with some avant-garde mime. |
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