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Post by thewonderstuff on Oct 12, 2022 16:04:32 GMT
Wimmer is a strange one. When he signed he came with almost universal good reviews from Spurs fans who said he was a good player who should do well for us. Some even thought that it was a poor decision to sell him and they should have kept him. I can't remember any warnings about laziness or poor attitude or anything else that would send up the red flags. Then as soon as he started playing it was obvious that he was shit and in poor shape and he quickly became one of the worst signings in our history. It's highly unusual to get such a disparity between the opinions of the fans of a player's previous club and then what happens once he signs. He barely started for them in the Premier League did he, which makes the fee all the more scandalous.
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Post by threepoints on Oct 12, 2022 16:48:14 GMT
I bet Berahino is blaming Stoke as well
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 12, 2022 17:10:59 GMT
Well his personal trainer must have been fucking useless Mate and myself saw him at BP filling station at Talke after a game.He was loaded with sweets and crisps as he strode across the forecourt to his fancy range rover and dolly bird.He was wearing the full Stoke track suit and we thought he was a wannabe, until we realised who it was.What a twat trying to blame the club for his own failures.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 12, 2022 17:18:30 GMT
He is by far, the worst signing we've ever made.
He's also one of 5 players I've seen in my lifetime where I've sat in the stands a honestly believed that I could have done better.
The only centre-half I've seen scared to head the ball.
A truly pathetic footballer.
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Post by musik on Oct 12, 2022 17:27:13 GMT
He is by far, the worst signing we've ever made. He's also one of 5 players I've seen in my lifetime where I've sat in the stands a honestly believed that I could have done better. The only centre-half I've seen scared to head the ball. A truly pathetic footballer. It makes me wonder: when and where did the initial wrong valuation of him take place? At what club and how old was he then? If he was that bad, how could he be part of professional football anywhere at all?
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 12, 2022 17:36:07 GMT
When Wimmer signed for Stoke I had a Spurs supporting colleague who was laughing his arse off at how Levy had stitched us up, bearing in mind Wimmer cost them around £4.5m and hardly ever played...his value increasing in direct, and reverse, correlation to his minutes on the pitch.
the only explanation: by not playing we had been unable to witness how poor he had become...
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 12, 2022 17:37:03 GMT
He is by far, the worst signing we've ever made. He's also one of 5 players I've seen in my lifetime where I've sat in the stands a honestly believed that I could have done better. The only centre-half I've seen scared to head the ball. A truly pathetic footballer. It makes me wonder: when and where did the initial wrong valuation of him take place? At what club and how old was he then? If he was that bad, how could he be part of professional football anywhere at all? August 2017 Between Tottenham and Stoke 24 Looking at his career hes managed more than 30 league appearances for 1 club out of 10 and I reckon I'd still get a game for Mouscron and Karslruher SC. Personally, I think he's been shite forever with the exception of his season in Bundesliga 2.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 12, 2022 18:12:46 GMT
He should change his name to Wobbler.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 12, 2022 18:19:49 GMT
He'd do well to keep his gob shut the fat useless sack of steaming shit.
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 12, 2022 18:38:35 GMT
Actually he's correct. We WERE unprofessional in that we signed HIM and paid 18 mill for the snack-snarfing poser who on top of everything else, turns out to be an ungrateful git. This calamitous signing from the clearance-bin at Tottenham is set up for life on our club's money. The Big 6 have the advantage of being allowed to hoover-up anything that remotely resembles a football player for later loans/sales. We need to do better homework when shopping at the Big 6 store in the future. Plenty of defective products with no warranty. But if he's an example of what big money buys you, I'd suggest shopping at different stores, or we're going to need a much larger wheelie-bin.
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 12, 2022 18:40:50 GMT
We are still digging out of the rubbish where one of the major chunks of debris was this $18 Million rimmer. Step forward Mark Leslie Hughes indeed. What a damaging period of time for us. Lambert had to be wondering, "Who's THIS fat f*ck and what am I supposed to do with him?" (Not that he was THAT fat, but it's something to hammer him with and it fits my agenda) Then we just had to pile on during the Rowett era...sorry, too soon I know.(It'll always be too soon to talk about that loon) But to follow that with Nathan Jones - brilliantly catastrophic. (He says with benefit of hindsight) Come on AN! Let's get this corner turned! That wheelie bin in the corner stinks to high-heaven! (God Willing - OK I'll stop now) Blaming the tea lady because you suck at football - nice one Kevin. Unfortunately for us there was another terrible level to the whole debacle in that everyone was also wondering why the fuck is Lambert here?! Dark days all around in the annals of SCFC.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 13, 2022 8:39:54 GMT
As what exactly...could not be as a footballer surely.
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Post by canadianmoose on Oct 13, 2022 16:07:13 GMT
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Post by Goonie on Oct 13, 2022 16:23:07 GMT
So Stoke were essentially to blame for what he shoved into his cake hole?
Nice
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 16:38:43 GMT
Well his personal trainer must have been fucking useless 😁 I reckon it was the same one Cyril Smith used. He has grounds to sue him to be fair
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 13, 2022 17:20:29 GMT
Think he's talking bollocks on the fish and chip point.
I've had dinner in the canteen with players after training and the food is first class. Exactly as you'd expect for a then premier league football team, it's all boiled veg, roast chicken, boiled rice etc., and there was a veggie option, and no fatty foods.
This was in the Pulis era, but doubt Hughes came in and told staff we to serve up fish and chips!!
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Post by mrrine on Oct 13, 2022 17:29:34 GMT
Still think we should've had him prising fag ends and chewing gum off the floor outside the stadium on matchday.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 13, 2022 17:38:00 GMT
Fat fuck. I wish him nothing but Iill.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 13, 2022 17:42:35 GMT
Of course it’s stokes fault you’re weren’t fit. (Or completely overrated and pretty bang average) No it’s not you Wimmer it’s everyone else.
Dick
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 13, 2022 21:36:42 GMT
Wimmer stands little to gain out of making said statement, which is fair to say he was probably asked a question and it’s probably true what he says, in contesting it you’re effectively defending Hughe’s and schole’s management of the club at the time. The club was ran like a shambles.
He’s massively to blame for contributing to that as has been said, joke of a player and joke of an effort on his part.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 14, 2022 2:28:22 GMT
He’s not exactly taken the football world by storm. He’s played 54 games since leaving Stoke in 2018 for four different teams, including three on loan I have never heard of.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 14, 2022 2:32:27 GMT
He is by far, the worst signing we've ever made. He's also one of 5 players I've seen in my lifetime where I've sat in the stands a honestly believed that I could have done better. The only centre-half I've seen scared to head the ball. A truly pathetic footballer. To be fair Bobby Moore couldn’t head the ball either. But he was genius at everything else necessary to be a world-class centre half and he had Jackie Charlton to take care or anything in the air. Simmer was crap at everything, even worse than Wollscheidt and that takes some doing.
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Post by potterburt on Oct 14, 2022 2:40:33 GMT
Of course Wimmer is just trying to use us as his fall guy to exercise his demons and regrets but…
Let’s not forget… it was that piss weak excuse of a manager that brought him here for that eye watering amount and he’s the poster boy for our demise from premier league security.
Another comment as to how much of a shit show MH was at man management and creating a culture/togetherness and brotherhood that’s required for success, a wanky manager who’s only merit was his black book of agent contacts and ability in convincing boards to unnecessarily sanction £££s to such said agents.
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Post by s7oke on Oct 14, 2022 3:41:50 GMT
Fat Useless Cunt And that’s wasting two words on him
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Oct 14, 2022 5:55:36 GMT
Wimmer stands little to gain out of making said statement, which is fair to say he was probably asked a question and it’s probably true what he says, in contesting it you’re effectively defending Hughe’s and schole’s management of the club at the time. The club was ran like a shambles. He’s massively to blame for contributing to that as has been said, joke of a player and joke of an effort on his part. Hughes running the club as a 'shambles' got us 9th in the Prem, three times consecutively. I think that players like Wimmer should look closer to home, and take some responsibility themselves.
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Post by callas12 on Oct 14, 2022 6:35:10 GMT
And Hughes still said yes, Scholes didn't make the decision to sign him. Both Scholes and Hughes as culpable as each other in my eyes. Hughes may have selected him as a player of interest he wanted (why only knows!) to sign but Scholes was the one who ultimately sanctioned the deal and player terms off! At any point Scholes could have pulled the plug on the deal, afterall his main job was to be the eyes and ears on behalf of the owners, & nothing about this deal made any sense in relation to Wimmers past transfer dealings and actual playing stats! I'm certainly not qualified in finances or scouting players but come on, anyone not even remotely interested in football or transfer fees could see we were being royally shafted by this deal in all aspects. It's equivalent to a car salesman trying to sell you a 1.1 basic spec Ford Focus for a Focus RS price. You'd quickly cotton on the salesman was trying to pull your pants down right there and then & disappear out the door sharpish. Both Hughes and his mate Scholes got mugged off by car salesman Levy on this occasion I'm afraid! Both happy to comment away & celebrate this deal like the cat that caught the cream so both as responsibile as each other in my eyes 👇🏻 Check out this post from Stoke City FC www.stokecityfc.com/news/city-seal-wimmer-deal
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Post by Waggy on Oct 14, 2022 6:40:03 GMT
If h was good I would be alarmed but he wasn't.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 14, 2022 6:57:14 GMT
A professional footballer who didn't look after his body calling the club unprofessional, what a fat cock he is.
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 14, 2022 7:45:55 GMT
Wimmer stands little to gain out of making said statement, which is fair to say he was probably asked a question and it’s probably true what he says, in contesting it you’re effectively defending Hughe’s and schole’s management of the club at the time. The club was ran like a shambles. He’s massively to blame for contributing to that as has been said, joke of a player and joke of an effort on his part. Hughes running the club as a 'shambles' got us 9th in the Prem, three times consecutively. I think that players like Wimmer should look closer to home, and take some responsibility themselves. He did and did a very good job. However I’m referring mainly to his final year in charge. It’s fairly well documented the place was a holiday camp during that period, which is why I’m inclined to believe it. I didn’t say it detracted from what Hughes achieved previously.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 14, 2022 9:01:07 GMT
And Hughes still said yes, Scholes didn't make the decision to sign him. Both Scholes and Hughes as culpable as each other in my eyes. Hughes may have selected him as a player of interest he wanted (why only knows!) to sign but Scholes was the one who ultimately sanctioned the deal and player terms off! At any point Scholes could have pulled the plug on the deal, afterall his main job was to be the eyes and ears on behalf of the owners, & nothing about this deal made any sense in relation to Wimmers past transfer dealings and actual playing stats! I'm certainly not qualified in finances or scouting players but come on, anyone not even remotely interested in football or transfer fees could see we were being royally shafted by this deal in all aspects. It's equivalent to a car salesman trying to sell you a 1.1 basic spec Ford Focus for a Focus RS price. You'd quickly cotton on the salesman was trying to pull your pants down right there and then & disappear out the door sharpish. Both Hughes and his mate Scholes got mugged off by car salesman Levy on this occasion I'm afraid! Both happy to comment away & celebrate this deal like the cat that caught the cream so both as responsibile as each other in my eyes 👇🏻 Check out this post from Stoke City FC www.stokecityfc.com/news/city-seal-wimmer-dealDo we really want non-football people making footballing decision though? I thought that's absolutely what we didn't want?
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