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Post by loosestools on Sept 15, 2022 18:38:07 GMT
We are digging up the old tram lines in George St Newcastle to create a cycle way - so no hope of linking with Stoke by tram.
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 20, 2022 19:38:45 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished!
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 20, 2022 19:49:22 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! where abouts is the etruria one going to be? Is there any info i can read up more about it, online?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2022 19:51:08 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! where abouts is the etruria one going to be? Is there any info i can read up more about it, online? You’d imagine same place as the old one?
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 20, 2022 19:53:09 GMT
where abouts is the etruria one going to be? Is there any info i can read up more about it, online? You’d imagine same place as the old one? ah ok, i thought for a moment, it would be a new one, after reading the posters comment.
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 20, 2022 19:54:11 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2022 19:54:36 GMT
You’d imagine same place as the old one? ah ok, i thought for a moment, it would be a new one. Not sure why. I’ve no idea to be honest but the line is there so there’s no reason to move it🤷🏻♂️
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2022 19:55:52 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. Why do you say that? About not paying for itself. Just curious, no argument intended
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 20, 2022 19:56:14 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. i have no idea about train station costs, but to me, a platform with some lights, benches, information stands and a line that separates it from the mainline, doesn't seem that expensive. It'll only be used about 20 times a year so it'd be more of an open stop, than London Bridge grand redesign.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 20, 2022 19:56:47 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! And yet Barlaston will remain closed. The trentham station was mooted a while back in the sentinel along with a new station at meir. Be strange to reopen Etruria after it was closed and the track realigned after island platformwas removed. Unless they build a conventional 2 platform station.
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Post by pretzel on Nov 20, 2022 20:03:25 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! Have you got a link to this news mate? Not doubting you but I cant find anything about it online and if I'm honest it does sound a bit barmy if true.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 20, 2022 20:14:16 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! Sorry to be a cynic or piss on anyone’s chips. There will never be a station at Trentham Lakes unless business promotes and finances it. Will 1/2 a dozen owners/lease holders fund it for freight traffic? Passenger traffic from where to where? Etruria Station……why, what justification. Freight and/or passengers? Integrated tram system…….I can’t remember how many times in my lifetime that I’ve heard/read this one. We can’t even complete a ring road around our supposed City Centre which has been a flag ship development for this City for for at least two or three decades (yes 20/30 years)……Think about that.
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 20, 2022 20:36:13 GMT
One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. Why do you say that? About not paying for itself. Just curious, no argument intended Even a ‘basic’ platform would cost millions to build, for something that would largely be used only when there’s a game on.
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 20, 2022 20:42:27 GMT
One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. i have no idea about train station costs, but to me, a platform with some lights, benches, information stands and a line that separates it from the mainline, doesn't seem that expensive. It'll only be used about 20 times a year so it'd be more of an open stop, than London Bridge grand redesign. I posted this previously on this thread… page 7 of this document details some ‘simple’ work (i.e. building a single platform) and it comes in at several million ££‘s even for something that appears to be very basic. Building anything is damn expensive. Consulting fees alone would run into hundreds of thousands. It’s a non starter. www.railfuture.org.uk/east/docs/Railfuture-East-Anglia-Railway-Costs-Analysis.pdf
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2022 20:47:21 GMT
Why do you say that? About not paying for itself. Just curious, no argument intended Even a ‘basic’ platform would cost millions to build, for something that would largely be used only when there’s a game on. I do think a lot of people would use it, I know I would from where I live. There’s loads of non descript train stations all over the country but people still use them. I completely understand what you’re saying though. I think it’s worth doing
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 20, 2022 21:00:30 GMT
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Post by pretzel on Nov 20, 2022 21:47:33 GMT
Can't see anything in this article that refers to any new station at Trentham and sadly, as it's on StokeonTrent Live, I don't give it much credence anyway. As Owdestokie concisely puts it, there's not sufficient justification for this project and it's not going to happen.
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 20, 2022 22:22:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2022 22:25:10 GMT
So they’ve had an initial chat and photo opp then. 😂
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 20, 2022 22:37:37 GMT
I’d question whether or not there’s a decent coordinated bus service onto Trentham Lakes especially on match days/nights.
If someone could put a factual alternative view forward I’d appreciate it. I regularly see well over a hundred people standing waiting for buses post match (in all weathers)
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 20, 2022 23:30:12 GMT
What i dont get is they closed barlaston because of capacity on the west coast mainline and now they want to open a new station in trentham instead. If capacity is there surely barlaston should get its service back as well.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2022 23:38:01 GMT
What i dont get is they closed barlaston because of capacity on the west coast mainline and now they want to open a new station in trentham instead. If capacity is there surely barlaston should get its service back as well. It’s just Brereton trying to keep his seat isn’t it? It’s all a load of shit that will go nowhere. I guess HS2 would change that though as Stoke has trains taken away. But that should be a bigger issue for that twat than some imaginary stations.
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 21, 2022 18:05:08 GMT
A new station is being built in Trentham on the same line that passes the ground, one is also planned to be built further up the line at Etruria. still wondering why one can’t be built next to the ground. Would help us leek Stokies massively when the stoke to leek line gets finished! One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. So you don't think that hordes of visitors would flock to see the major tourist attraction that is the BET365 Stadium, then?
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 21, 2022 18:25:23 GMT
One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. So you don't think that hordes of visitors would flock to see the major tourist attraction that is the BET365 Stadium, then? would be used a lot on matchday with away fans also using it, for big games it would be very busy. And with a station, the ground could then host England games and non footballing events and be able to handle the traffic.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 21, 2022 19:08:44 GMT
So you don't think that hordes of visitors would flock to see the major tourist attraction that is the BET365 Stadium, then? would be used a lot on matchday with away fans also using it, for big games it would be very busy. And with a station, the ground could then host England games and non footballing events and be able to handle the traffic. I’m sorry but you’re living in cloud cuckoo land. Admiration for your thinking positively though 👍
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 21, 2022 20:04:45 GMT
One probably could be built next to the ground, but it would never pay for itself and so doesn’t make any sense. So you don't think that hordes of visitors would flock to see the major tourist attraction that is the BET365 Stadium, then? The Audi garage, maybe.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 21, 2022 20:05:58 GMT
If they had planned to build that indoor arena by the brit it would be more viable. Sadly that opportunity has gone.
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 21, 2022 20:23:04 GMT
would be used a lot on matchday with away fans also using it, for big games it would be very busy. And with a station, the ground could then host England games and non footballing events and be able to handle the traffic. I’m sorry but you’re living in cloud cuckoo land. Admiration for your thinking positively though 👍 the exact response I’d expect from an ‘Owde Stokie’. It’s why our city is shit, absolutely no ambition.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 21, 2022 21:43:55 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Nov 22, 2022 9:09:10 GMT
Anyone who has experience of working in strategy and planning within the rail industry knows this is a complete non starter both in terms of capital outlay and service scheduling. A station as part of a local metro/tram system is slightly more feasible but still highly unlikely.
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