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Post by banksy1art on Jul 31, 2022 11:34:16 GMT
After lots of subsidence near the Gordon banks statue, we’ve got to be worried about the stadium at this point surely. The pets at home warehouse on the same estate is unused in one half due to subsidence and are relocating to Stafford in 6 months because of it. At some point the stadium will have subsidence damage, no question about it, I’m surprised the club are investing in the ground so heavily because we will have to move at some point due to the nature of the ground beneath it (Old mines and pits)!
Can anyone who knows there stuff about structures and safety let me know if it’s a concern?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jul 31, 2022 11:35:25 GMT
Probably health and safety who provide the certificate for use each year.
Stop your stressing, it'd be no loss anyway if that thing disappeared down a black hole.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 31, 2022 11:40:09 GMT
Let's hope that, if there is a problem with subsidence, we have 100% bombproof insurance cover. I am old enough to remember the debacle when the roof blew off the Butler Street stand, I could not cope with a repeat of that unhappy time in our history!  |
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Post by bingbang on Jul 31, 2022 11:40:32 GMT
We should be so lucky
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 31, 2022 11:41:31 GMT
let’s set a bomb off under the ground  |
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 31, 2022 11:42:39 GMT
Groundshare with the Vale incoming....
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 31, 2022 11:44:31 GMT
Groundshare with the Vale incoming.... would rather Hanley town or Newcastle. Think vale have the same subsidence problem anyway ! |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 31, 2022 11:50:24 GMT
Think we should be more concerned with subsidence down the leagues at this point…
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 31, 2022 11:56:01 GMT
When you think about what type of land the ground was built on in the first place & also the surrounding land too then would you really be surprised that subsidence is abound?
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jul 31, 2022 11:56:38 GMT
After lots of subsidence near the Gordon banks statue, we’ve got to be worried about the stadium at this point surely. The pets at home warehouse on the same estate is unused in one half due to subsidence and are relocating to Stafford in 6 months because of it. At some point the stadium will have subsidence damage, no question about it, I’m surprised the club are investing in the ground so heavily because we will have to move at some point due to the nature of the ground beneath it (Old mines and pits)! Can anyone who knows there stuff about structures and safety let me know if it’s a concern? As far as i know the ground was built on concrete rafts or something like that as they knew there would be subsidence in the future. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 31, 2022 11:59:07 GMT
I’m more worried about the upcoming subsidence in our league position
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Post by s7oke on Jul 31, 2022 11:59:56 GMT
After lots of subsidence near the Gordon banks statue, we’ve got to be worried about the stadium at this point surely. The pets at home warehouse on the same estate is unused in one half due to subsidence and are relocating to Stafford in 6 months because of it. At some point the stadium will have subsidence damage, no question about it, I’m surprised the club are investing in the ground so heavily because we will have to move at some point due to the nature of the ground beneath it (Old mines and pits)! Can anyone who knows there stuff about structures and safety let me know if it’s a concern? As far as i know the ground was built on concrete rafts or something like that as they knew there would be subsidence in the future. Yea I remember something that there’s a lot of concrete underneath when it was raised once before |
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Post by stroller on Jul 31, 2022 12:00:28 GMT
Misread the OP, I was wondering what our substitutes were doing hanging around the Gordon Banks statue.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 31, 2022 12:40:22 GMT
As far as i know the ground was built on concrete rafts or something like that as they knew there would be subsidence in the future. Yea I remember something that there’s a lot of concrete underneath when it was raised once before Given that the architects, builders and planning authority will have known the history of the land use in the area, you would assume that a project as big and expensive as a football stadium, would have included mitigation of any subsidence should that be likely. I would also have expected that if there were problems they would have started to manifest themselves before now - the bigger and heavier the building, the sooner any subsidence problems would arise, I would have thought. Fingers crossed we will not have problems. |
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Post by s7oke on Jul 31, 2022 12:47:00 GMT
Yea I remember something that there’s a lot of concrete underneath when it was raised once before Given that the architects, builders and planning authority will have known the history of the land use in the area, you would assume that a project as big and expensive as a football stadium, would have included mitigation of any subsidence should that be likely. I would also have expected that if there were problems they would have started to manifest themselves before now - the bigger and heavier the building, the sooner any subsidence problems would arise, I would have thought. Fingers crossed we will not have problems. If it does subside a bit maybe we will attack and move the ball a bit quicker At least one half anyway |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 31, 2022 12:49:52 GMT
Let's hope that, if there is a problem with subsidence, we have 100% bombproof insurance cover. I am old enough to remember the debacle when the roof blew off the Butler Street stand, I could not cope with a repeat of that unhappy time in our history! I reckon the owners are in a bit more of a better position now to finance such issues should they ever arrive. I cant see us having to sell Clucas to pay for it  |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 31, 2022 12:50:13 GMT
Probably health and safety who provide the certificate for use each year. Stop your stressing, it'd be no loss anyway if that thing disappeared down a black hole. Hopefully the black hole opens up in the home dugout. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 31, 2022 12:50:52 GMT
Given that the architects, builders and planning authority will have known the history of the land use in the area, you would assume that a project as big and expensive as a football stadium, would have included mitigation of any subsidence should that be likely. I would also have expected that if there were problems they would have started to manifest themselves before now - the bigger and heavier the building, the sooner any subsidence problems would arise, I would have thought. Fingers crossed we will not have problems. If it does subside a bit maybe we will attack and move the ball a bit quicker At least one half anyway It will be like playing at the Ash in Mow Cop (for those who ever had the pleasure of playing there) |
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 31, 2022 12:51:42 GMT
Yea I remember something that there’s a lot of concrete underneath when it was raised once before Given that the architects, builders and planning authority will have known the history of the land use in the area, you would assume that a project as big and expensive as a football stadium, would have included mitigation of any subsidence should that be likely. I would also have expected that if there were problems they would have started to manifest themselves before now - the bigger and heavier the building, the sooner any subsidence problems would arise, I would have thought. Fingers crossed we will not have problems. Exactly this. To have done otherwise would’ve been rank negligence and incompetence, which is the last thing you associate with how SCFC is run……oh, wait 😬 |
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Post by franklin on Jul 31, 2022 12:53:15 GMT
I'm not sure we could sink much lower 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 12:59:18 GMT
I always felt we were at this location temporary and would move back to its rightful home by the side of the 'Trent'.
Then the homes were built on the old site and a little part of me died inside.
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 31, 2022 13:02:46 GMT
Let's hope that, if there is a problem with subsidence, we have 100% bombproof insurance cover. I am old enough to remember the debacle when the roof blew off the Butler Street stand, I could not cope with a repeat of that unhappy time in our history! I reckon the owners are in a bit more of a better position now to finance such issues should they ever arrive. I cant see us having to sell Clucas to pay for it Mores the pity |
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 31, 2022 13:37:29 GMT
I always felt we were at this location temporary and would move back to its rightful home by the side of the 'Trent'. Then the homes were built on the old site and a little part of me died inside. there’s a better and bigger site ready on city road! |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 31, 2022 13:43:13 GMT
Was there not a local journalist who was absolutely convinced that the stadium would sink into the ground back in 1997?
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 31, 2022 13:45:53 GMT
I always felt we were at this location temporary and would move back to its rightful home by the side of the 'Trent'. Then the homes were built on the old site and a little part of me died inside. there’s a better and bigger site ready on city road! which site do you mean? i'm just intrigued, i'm not expecting it to happen. |
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 31, 2022 13:46:15 GMT
If it does subside a bit maybe we will attack and move the ball a bit quicker At least one half anyway It will be like playing at the Ash in Mow Cop (for those who ever had the pleasure of playing there) Oh yes always try to kick up for the first half. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 31, 2022 13:54:01 GMT
Let's hope that, if there is a problem with subsidence, we have 100% bombproof insurance cover. I am old enough to remember the debacle when the roof blew off the Butler Street stand, I could not cope with a repeat of that unhappy time in our history! I reckon the owners are in a bit more of a better position now to finance such issues should they ever arrive. I cant see us having to sell Clucas to pay for it Pity!  |
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Post by loosestools on Jul 31, 2022 13:54:26 GMT
The ground occupied by the footprint of the stadium will have been treated and all mine shafts capped and coal seams filled with grout. The foundations under the columns were piled and rafted. There may very well be settlement outside the ground in untreated areas. I wouldn't worry too much. Time for concern when only Banksy's heads is visible above ground.
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Jul 31, 2022 13:58:51 GMT
Was there not a local journalist who was absolutely convinced that the stadium would sink into the ground back in 1997? I recall something about the South West corner being lower than the rest, around the early 2000s... But can't find nay reference to it now |
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Post by skip on Jul 31, 2022 13:59:29 GMT
The gravity crocodile works in mysterious ways.
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