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Post by franklin on Dec 6, 2022 22:00:30 GMT
I just hope we get somebody that has the courage to open up and play. An interesting time and I'm excited to see who they go for but I have a sinking feeling it'll be same old...
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 7, 2022 6:11:52 GMT
I just hope we get somebody that has the courage to open up and play. An interesting time and I'm excited to see who they go for but I have a sinking feeling it'll be same old... Massive mistake not getting Gatland. |
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 7, 2022 6:23:10 GMT
Sounds like Borthwick could be confirmed by the end of the week. RFU are apparently just sorting things with Leicester who are reluctant to lose him.
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Post by franklin on Dec 7, 2022 6:45:50 GMT
I just hope we get somebody that has the courage to open up and play. An interesting time and I'm excited to see who they go for but I have a sinking feeling it'll be same old... Massive mistake not getting Gatland. I'm not sure his heart was ever in it for us to be a realistic target. |
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Post by knype on Dec 7, 2022 10:02:44 GMT
Sounds like Borthwick could be confirmed by the end of the week. RFU are apparently just sorting things with Leicester who are reluctant to lose him. I'm not sure we will see much change from EJ's selections and tactics, hope I am wrong! |
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Post by franklin on Dec 7, 2022 10:21:31 GMT
Sounds like Borthwick could be confirmed by the end of the week. RFU are apparently just sorting things with Leicester who are reluctant to lose him. I'm not sure we will see much change from EJ's selections and tactics, hope I am wrong! I'm not as informed as some on here but Steve Borthwick as a player was old school "up the jumper" so I'm not sure if he'll be that much more expansive as a coach. |
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 7, 2022 11:25:22 GMT
I'm not sure we will see much change from EJ's selections and tactics, hope I am wrong! I'm not as informed as some on here but Steve Borthwick as a player was old school "up the jumper" so I'm not sure if he'll be that much more expansive as a coach. You're right, I think it's just going to be more of the same. Unfortunately the game has moved on. |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Dec 7, 2022 12:46:51 GMT
I'm not as informed as some on here but Steve Borthwick as a player was old school "up the jumper" so I'm not sure if he'll be that much more expansive as a coach. You're right, I think it's just going to be more of the same. Unfortunately the game has moved on. Aren't they also bringing in Kevin Sinfield from Leicester alongside Borthwick? Another 'League legend being brought in to shake up/stimulate Union at international level? |
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 7, 2022 14:19:12 GMT
You're right, I think it's just going to be more of the same. Unfortunately the game has moved on. Aren't they also bringing in Kevin Sinfield from Leicester alongside Borthwick? Another 'League legend being brought in to shake up/stimulate Union at international level? I hadn't heard that mate, if so it could be "interesting" to watch things develop. |
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Post by knype on Dec 7, 2022 17:29:55 GMT
Aren't they also bringing in Kevin Sinfield from Leicester alongside Borthwick? Another 'League legend being brought in to shake up/stimulate Union at international level? I hadn't heard that mate, if so it could be "interesting" to watch things develop. They will want Sinfield for sure, sadly it still doesn't inspire me, I hope I'm wrong though |
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Post by professorplump on Jan 16, 2023 7:40:14 GMT
Australia have appointed Eddie Jones as their new coach. They obviously haven't watched England play recently!
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Post by deeside2 on Jan 16, 2023 9:18:53 GMT
Australia have appointed Eddie Jones as their new coach. They obviously haven't watched England play recently! That's going to be interesting to see how the Aussies develop (or hopefully decline). Hopefully it'll be the "most recent" Eddie in charge and not the "early" Eddie when he first took over as England coach. |
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Post by knype on Jan 16, 2023 10:01:21 GMT
Australia have appointed Eddie Jones as their new coach. They obviously haven't watched England play recently! That's going to be interesting to see how the Aussies develop (or hopefully decline). Hopefully it'll be the "most recent" Eddie in charge and not the "early" Eddie when he first took over as England coach. Yeah, it's a strange one with EJ, for me it was definitely the right thing to do though. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 16, 2023 10:14:24 GMT
Australia have appointed Eddie Jones as their new coach. They obviously haven't watched England play recently! Probably saw the 2-1 test series win for England last summer… Although to be fair neither side is probably at their peak or even close to their potential right now. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 16, 2023 11:54:46 GMT
No Billy Vunipola, Jonny May or Jack Nowell in the 6 nations squad (Tom Curry is injured)
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Post by professorplump on Feb 4, 2023 8:07:37 GMT
So the Six Nations gets underway today and France and Ireland seem clear favourites, however I think Wales will be stronger under Gatland and I expect them to give Ireland a tough game today.
It will be interesting to see how England perform under Borthwick. I think anything below finishing 3rd will be a disappointment.
One gripe I have is that I don't like Farrell playing at No.12. I can see the advantages in having an extra kicker but I think he stifles the creativity of our backline. For me, he either plays at Fly Half or not at all.
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Post by deeside2 on Feb 4, 2023 8:53:09 GMT
I think finishing 3rd is probably about as good as we can hope for this year. France and Ireland look very good and Wales played a blinder appointing Gatland whilst we dithered over sacking Jones. I remain to be convinced by Steve Borthwick even though he did well at Leicester.
I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised by this "new" England, especially in a World Cup year, but I think it's too soon to expect big improvements.
Just touching on the World Cup, the opening game of France v NZ should be a cracker.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 4, 2023 9:05:50 GMT
I think finishing 3rd is probably about as good as we can hope for this year. France and Ireland look very good and Wales played a blinder appointing Gatland whilst we dithered over sacking Jones. I remain to be convinced by Steve Borthwick even though he did well at Leicester. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised by this "new" England, especially in a World Cup year, but I think it's too soon to expect big improvements. Just touching on the World Cup, the opening game of France v NZ should be a cracker. My thoughts exactly. I kind of feel the same way as I did when Southgate led us into the 2018 football WC: not really expecting much and then being pleasantly surprised by the outcome. So I hope this will be the same. The depressing thing about English rugby, apart from the massive resources we have at our disposal which should result in better results, is that our style of play is so relentlessly turgid and boring. When was the last time we had a set of backs that regularly gave you confidence that when they got the ball something exciting and, more importantly, productive was likely to happen? The very start of the Jones era maybe? I'm not overly critical of Jones' time at England, I think he was good for us after the Lancaster disaster, but much like Pulis at Stoke, his time had come and gone. Perhaps Borthwick's England will be a breath of fresh air. The fact that he was one of Jones's coaches is a bit of a worry. Looking forward to seeing if Marcus Smith can carry his good Harlequins form into the Test matches. I think the fixtures favour Ireland slightly, they have both France and England at home so I'll go for them to win the title this year. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 4, 2023 17:15:10 GMT
God, England are shit!
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Post by franklin on Feb 4, 2023 17:15:51 GMT
Absolutely shit defence that's as weak shit tackling I've seen in an England team fuck me.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 4, 2023 17:18:19 GMT
When does Farrell's Ireland contract end?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 4, 2023 17:34:43 GMT
At least it's stopped being a kicking fest and we look more willing to run the ball. Two well worked tries as well.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Feb 4, 2023 17:47:48 GMT
Absolutely shit defence that's as weak shit tackling I've seen in an England team fuck me. It wasn’t a great try it was awful defending |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 4, 2023 17:55:57 GMT
Our defence is a joke!
You have to worry against better teams than Scotland.
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Post by franklin on Feb 4, 2023 17:56:44 GMT
I'm losing my shit at the weak as piss defence that's just fucking nuts.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Feb 4, 2023 17:58:55 GMT
I'm losing my shit at the weak as piss defence that's just fucking nuts. I’m trying to work out the weakest England or Stoke’s both appear to have forgotten the physical side of the game. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 4, 2023 18:00:55 GMT
I'm losing my shit at the weak as piss defence that's just fucking nuts. I’m trying to work out the weakest England or Stoke’s both appear to have forgotten the physical side of the game. I think they must have the same coach both are shocking mate. |
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Post by deeside2 on Feb 4, 2023 18:04:16 GMT
If anything we're even worse than when Eddie had lost the plot towards the end.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Feb 4, 2023 18:07:44 GMT
I can see us losing this.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 4, 2023 18:08:03 GMT
Imagine having backs that can run with the ball and beat people!
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