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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2024 6:01:14 GMT
Carsley is the obvious choice.
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2024 6:20:54 GMT
Klopp or Ancelotti for me if either remotely interested. They would win us something I'm sure. Klopp has said he's not interested
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2024 6:22:11 GMT
It will be another boring FA yes man they have the cash to appoint an elite manager but won’t Southgate was getting £5m a year AN incredible amount but way less what the absolute elite managers get
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 18, 2024 7:46:46 GMT
Is Howe tactically any good? Watched Newcastle a lot and they are a completely different side away from home. They hold the record fro the ball being in play the least amount in a premier league last season , they can roll around like bournmouth and take gamesmanship to new levels the ultimate Karma being how thet got ti end over at PSG , the does is he is visionary is nonsense , he is a pragmatic as they come , but his attention to detail is legendary , his focus and work rate mod boggling amd looks southtgate he is clean and a good front man
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 18, 2024 9:30:27 GMT
It will be another boring FA yes man they have the cash to appoint an elite manager but won’t What will they be saying yes to?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 18, 2024 9:40:47 GMT
Carsley is the obvious choice. Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 18, 2024 9:54:02 GMT
Carsley is the obvious choice. Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. Continuity. To be fair his u21 team beat de la Fuente's u21 team in last years Euro final. Underwhelming but merit in the appointment.
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 18, 2024 10:10:37 GMT
Carsley is the obvious choice. Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. With our perceived World Class squad, anybody who isn't a big name is going to get bugger all leeway with fans. If the new manager doesn't hit the ground running, they'll be on his back immediately.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 18, 2024 10:13:55 GMT
Absolute bollocks that is. If any club in the world could go full PSG and be nonchalant fuck abouts it's Man City. He has every record in England and no matter who you are if you don't fit in your out. The three players you mentioned. Hart can't play with his feet, Phillips come back over weight and Grealish started every game in a Treble winning season but had injury issues last year. Still started both legs of the tie with R.Madrid. He demands ultimate respect and work ethics and if you don't... see you later. It's the kind of no-bullshit attitude that would get the best out of Bellingham who clearly has higher standards than half our squad. Pep has a very specific way of playing, and critical to that is playing out from the back. The goalkeeper is arguably the most important position for that. Neither Pickford or Ramsdale can do that, and I’ve yet to see Pep’s tactics deviate to anything else. As much of a success he has been in club football (with Football Manager cheat mode on it has to be said), I would avoid Pep for the national job. He wouldnt play Pickford Pope or Ramsdale. Expect Trafford or one of the young lads who can play.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jul 18, 2024 10:45:03 GMT
Sarina Weigman?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2024 11:20:29 GMT
Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. With our perceived World Class squad, anybody who isn't a big name is going to get bugger all leeway with fans. If the new manager doesn't hit the ground running, they'll be on his back immediately. Does that make any difference though? Fans have never liked Southgate but there is no evidence that this has affected results.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2024 11:24:21 GMT
I imagine Newcastle might be delighted by the prospect of England taking Howe off their hands. Given their resources they have underperformed under him. They don’t have to sack him pay him off, they get compensation, and get someone better in. Not that they need the comp money!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 18, 2024 11:24:57 GMT
Carsley it just has to be - IF the FA have learnt anything about creating an English model and want to build a legacy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2024 11:41:12 GMT
Carsley is the obvious choice. Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. Based on he won a tournament playing good football and we should be using players from his u21 side more and more. It’s the only logical choice past getting Pep which seems fantasy.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 18, 2024 11:41:58 GMT
She's been successful. Planning for another tournament is underway. How does it look if the FA move her away from the women, put her with the men, and she gets an astronomical pay rise. It'd look bad. Almost as if the bloke team is more important to them or something weird like that. But it'd be worth it to see Joey Barton's response 😆
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 18, 2024 11:52:52 GMT
Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. Based on he won a tournament playing good football and we should be using players from his u21 side more and more. It’s the only logical choice past getting Pep which seems fantasy. Then Steve Cooper could be in with a shout too. Surely the young players in the current squad and those who just missed out (Branthwaite, Qensah) give us a pretty low average age anyway? I would be surprised if Carsley got the job but can see why you might argue for it.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 18, 2024 11:56:28 GMT
I've said it so many times, all GOOD businesses have a succession plan, why shouldn't football clubs / International FA's have the same process That said, the last time it was applied we got "the wally with the brolly" In my defence the FA blew that one by interviewing other possible appointments first, totally undermining their OWN PROCESS
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2024 11:59:58 GMT
Based on he won a tournament playing good football and we should be using players from his u21 side more and more. It’s the only logical choice past getting Pep which seems fantasy. Then Steve Cooper could be in with a shout too. Surely the young players in the current squad and those who just missed out (Branthwaite, Qensah) give us a pretty low average age anyway? I would be surprised if Carsley got the job but can see why you might argue for it. He’s just taken the Leicester job but he would seem logical too yes. You don’t need a name. International football is a level below club football now. Southgate showed you can get very far with little tactical knowledge and keeping players happy. We need someone who can do that but add the tactical side to it too. People wanting Mourinho are mad.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2024 12:52:06 GMT
Then Steve Cooper could be in with a shout too. Surely the young players in the current squad and those who just missed out (Branthwaite, Qensah) give us a pretty low average age anyway? I would be surprised if Carsley got the job but can see why you might argue for it. He’s just taken the Leicester job but he would seem logical too yes. You don’t need a name. International football is a level below club football now. Southgate showed you can get very far with little tactical knowledge and keeping players happy. We need someone who can do that but add the tactical side to it too. People wanting Mourinho are mad. With Mourinho, it would be all about him, (the opposite of Southgate) plus his football is rotten.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 18, 2024 13:10:36 GMT
Based on what? The fact that the previous Under 21 manager got it? I don't think Carsley would go down well at all, with fans or media. Based on he won a tournament playing good football and we should be using players from his u21 side more and more. It’s the only logical choice past getting Pep which seems fantasy. Carsley Potter Klopp Pochettino I'd have any of those. But I quite like this FA progression idea so I'd get behind the idea of Carsley. Plus no chance of getting klopp or Pochettino. Potter would be interesting however..
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 18, 2024 13:14:11 GMT
Then Steve Cooper could be in with a shout too. Surely the young players in the current squad and those who just missed out (Branthwaite, Qensah) give us a pretty low average age anyway? I would be surprised if Carsley got the job but can see why you might argue for it. He’s just taken the Leicester job but he would seem logical too yes. You don’t need a name. International football is a level below club football now. Southgate showed you can get very far with little tactical knowledge and keeping players happy. We need someone who can do that but add the tactical side to it too. People wanting Mourinho are mad. Tactical knowledge for the head coach shouldn't matter massively. One of the most important parts of the job is making up for your own shortfalls with who you employ. Southgate had Steve Holland and plenty of others with good experience. While I wished England under Southgate were more adventurous, he's done a brilliant job, and I could have seen him winning a tournament in the next 3 - his approach likely would've paid off.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 18, 2024 13:29:04 GMT
I've said it so many times, all GOOD businesses have a succession plan, why shouldn't football clubs / International FA's have the same process That said, the last time it was applied we got "the wally with the brolly" In my defence the FA blew that one by interviewing other possible appointments first, totally undermining their OWN PROCESS Martin O'Neill did a good interview and they never got back to him. Scolari said he'd walk to London for that job. BUT he turned it down because, for some reason only they know, the FA insisted on an announcement before the world cup and it wouldn't be right to be working there for someone else. He also said he knew they'd be playing Emg;land in the quarter final. Which shows how perceptive he is. Until he plays Germany anyway
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 18, 2024 14:09:16 GMT
Bayern, I'm aware that Cooper isn't available, but was just talking about criteria. Potter is a similar character to Southgate but more tactically astute I think. Howe doesn't thrill meither, but I reckon we'll go that way. Ange would be an interesting curveball.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 14:29:42 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2024 17:34:57 GMT
What is? Fun? Angeland, I'm all in
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
What is? Fun? Angeland, I'm all in Yeah. Fun, excitement, entertainment. I really don't know much about Ange. I'd have been on the Klopp bandwagon but he's already said he's not interested so maybe Postucoglu (sp) is of that ilk. I really need someone to get my enjoyment of the game back. I'm even looking forward to watching Stoke again after watching England, it was enough to put you off football for life.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 18, 2024 19:30:01 GMT
Bayern, I'm aware that Cooper isn't available, but was just talking about criteria. Potter is a similar character to Southgate but more tactically astute I think. Howe doesn't thrill meither, but I reckon we'll go that way. Ange would be an interesting curveball. Might be worth asking Chelsea fans about Potter's tactical astuteness?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 18, 2024 19:32:11 GMT
Bayern, I'm aware that Cooper isn't available, but was just talking about criteria. Potter is a similar character to Southgate but more tactically astute I think. Howe doesn't thrill meither, but I reckon we'll go that way. Ange would be an interesting curveball. Might be worth asking Chelsea fans about Potter's tactical astuteness? No one was going to be a success at that time to be fair. They’re an insane club
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 18, 2024 19:36:19 GMT
This would be a fantastic appointment.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 18, 2024 19:40:14 GMT
This would be a fantastic appointment. I don’t think there’s any chance of that happening. Surely the FA have been preparing for this moment before Ange even came to England. Maybe not
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