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Jul 16, 2024 17:33:58 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 17:33:58 GMT
A huge number But not to the very best which Ancelotti is disagree I think he's the best around atm Pep star waning slightly
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Post by Bramolini on Jul 16, 2024 18:06:41 GMT
Not convinced by Eddie Howe, he has better pedigree than Southgate but that's not saying much, it would be pretty underwhelming. We have a world-class squad, we need a world-class manager to go with it and I don't think there is an Englishman up to the job at the moment. Assuming Guardiola / Klopp are out of the question, I'd be looking at Tuchel or Pochettino. I don't think we should settle for less. We won't get ANOTHER world class manager,in time you will realize what a great manager Southgate was when we are struggling to get out of the group stages of tournament's 👍 Ok we were good in the first 20 mins in the first match , good in the first half v Holland er... that's it . I for one am so glad he's gone . Luckiest manager we've ever had , masks the fact he was useless .
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 18:18:45 GMT
Ah well, that's another don't lose manager out of work.
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 16, 2024 18:31:16 GMT
I'm not against foreign coaches for England, infact I'm all for it. However, we can't have a German managing us whatsoever. We'll never live it down! If we actually win something, I couldn't care less where they hail from.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 19:42:32 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 19:44:03 GMT
Guillem Balague now on 5 Live saying the same. Says Guardiola would be interested in taking over next summer
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Jul 16, 2024 19:45:02 GMT
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Post by thebasfordhedgehog on Jul 16, 2024 19:45:02 GMT
That Wash & Go mic 😂
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Jul 16, 2024 19:45:54 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jul 16, 2024 19:45:54 GMT
Poch for me
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Post by superjw on Jul 16, 2024 19:50:57 GMT
Definitely wouldn’t say no to Pep if this was real, he will definitely leave citeh next season, surprised he didn’t this time tbh
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Jul 16, 2024 21:25:57 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 16, 2024 21:25:57 GMT
How many WC qualifiers will we have played by next Summer? There's a bit of risk attached to waiting 12 months for Pep. He won't come if we're struggling by then (not that we should be). I think I'd take thst arrangement though if it was agreed.
Ancelotti would be my first choice, then Pep then Klopp.
Howe would be very meh imo and Lampard? Fucking hell, we might as well give up now if he gets it. The bloke is to management what Kane is to trophies.
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Jul 16, 2024 21:29:19 GMT
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Post by misterj on Jul 16, 2024 21:29:19 GMT
Don’t ppl think that if Poch, Klopp or Pep are employed there’ll be even more tippy tappy, more slow build up from the back, more falling over as if they’ve been shot and less swashbuckling ‘have a go’ adventurous attacking ….. not that I’m a soccer dinosaur or anything!! Potter for me
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 16, 2024 21:33:36 GMT
Pep if hes really interested, i mean come on man! Bosssssh.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2024 21:50:29 GMT
Don’t ppl think that if Poch, Klopp or Pep are employed there’ll be even more tippy tappy, more slow build up from the back, more falling over as if they’ve been shot and less swashbuckling ‘have a go’ adventurous attacking ….. not that I’m a soccer dinosaur or anything!! Potter for me None of them can hold a candle to developing the art of falling over like Howe can , added to the notable skill of ensuring the ball is not in play for more than 55 minutes of the 90
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Jul 16, 2024 22:43:28 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 16, 2024 22:43:28 GMT
Ancelotti stinks of world cup winning manager ❤️
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England
Jul 16, 2024 22:44:04 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 22:44:04 GMT
St Georges Park was established to be the England headquarters... playing administration and coaching. This is why Southo was offered the job before Allardyce. They had a trustworthy coach in the camp. Thing is as well, managing at international level is very different to managing a club. History has loads of brilliant players who failed as managers. There's plenty of very good club managers who couldn't handle the different demands of international managing. Guardiola has done well as a manager But imposing those values over such short periods is a big ask. With that in mind leave well alone
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Jul 17, 2024 5:17:41 GMT
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Post by cdf on Jul 17, 2024 5:17:41 GMT
How many WC qualifiers will we have played by next Summer? There's a bit of risk attached to waiting 12 months for Pep. He won't come if we're struggling by then (not that we should be). I think I'd take thst arrangement though if it was agreed. Ancelotti would be my first choice, then Pep then Klopp. Howe would be very meh imo and Lampard? Fucking hell, we might as well give up now if he gets it. The bloke is to management what Kane is to trophies. M 1st Qualifier; 21st-22nd March 2nd qualifier; 24th - 25th March 3rd qualifier: 6th - 7th June 4th qualifier: 9th - 10th June
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 17, 2024 6:19:52 GMT
St Georges Park was established to be the England headquarters... playing administration and coaching. This is why Southo was offered the job before Allardyce. They had a trustworthy coach in the camp. Thing is as well, managing at international level is very different to managing a club. History has loads of brilliant players who failed as managers. There's plenty of very good club managers who couldn't handle the different demands of international managing. Guardiola has done well as a manager But imposing those values over such short periods is a big ask. With that in mind leave well alone Different skill set required for an international manager. Man City often have a few dodgy results early on in a season. In a tournament, you don't have that luxury. Having said that, I'm not sure we could turn down someone with his record and knowledge of the English game.
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Jul 17, 2024 7:24:43 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 17, 2024 7:24:43 GMT
I’m firmly in the “high profile world class manager” camp and would happily have Carsley for 12 months if we could get a Guardiola or Ancelotti when their contracts are up. In fact I’d go further and say if we’re not going to go down that route I’d much prefer Carsley over Howe/Potter who I’m just seriously underwhelmed by……
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 17, 2024 7:26:03 GMT
Guardiola would be the best thing to ever happen to this country if he got the job.
It would improve every single thing around our style, implementation and attitude to football.
He would be able to bring through English Coaches in the right way and make sure our youth teams are being developed the right way from the start.
For instance when he first got in Man City, Foden was on the verge of being released.
I said this might happen with him being Catalonian.
Go break the fucking bank!!!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 17, 2024 7:49:40 GMT
Ancelotti stinks of world cup winning manager ❤️ ...for Italy. I think if he's going to dip his toe into international management, it'll be with his own country.
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Jul 17, 2024 8:03:09 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 17, 2024 8:03:09 GMT
Ancelotti stinks of world cup winning manager ❤️ ...for Italy. I think if he's going to dip his toe into international management, it'll be with his own country. Quite possibly. Wasn't he linked with Brazil a couple of years ago?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 17, 2024 8:16:21 GMT
Ancelotti stinks of world cup winning manager ❤️ Especially if he goes back to chain smoking on the bench
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 17, 2024 8:28:27 GMT
Guardiola starts by spending a shit load of money on players who HE wants, who fit HIS way of playing or they're out and ruins English players like Hart, Phillips and Grealish in the process.
By his own admission doesn't adapt his style of play to accommodate the players available to him - they have to adapt to him.
Great attributes for managing rich clubs who can afford Haaland and Rhodri but not sure about National squads.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 17, 2024 8:33:33 GMT
Guardiola starts by spending a shit load of money on players who HE wants, who fit HIS way of playing or they're out and ruins English players like Hart, Phillips and Grealish in the process. By his own admission doesn't adapt his style of play to accommodate the players available to him - they have to adapt to him. Great attributes for managing rich clubs who can afford Haaland and Rhodri but not sure about National squads. Won the treble with 5/11 players being English, He's probably the best coach of all time, won Trebles in 2 different countries, He gets the big money to spend because he's as close to guaranteed success as you can get
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Jul 17, 2024 9:03:23 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 17, 2024 9:03:23 GMT
Guardiola starts by spending a shit load of money on players who HE wants, who fit HIS way of playing or they're out and ruins English players like Hart, Phillips and Grealish in the process. By his own admission doesn't adapt his style of play to accommodate the players available to him - they have to adapt to him. Great attributes for managing rich clubs who can afford Haaland and Rhodri but not sure about National squads. Won the treble with 5/11 players being English, He's probably the best coach of all time, won Trebles in 2 different countries, He gets the big money to spend because he's as close to guaranteed success as you can get At two clubs with financial clouds hanging over them. Brought in to win CL at Bayern where the cash is relatively less flush and failed in that objective. Club and country management very different. Based on getting a hard on for club performance Luis de la Fuente (very similar background to Southgate as it happens) would never have been anywhere near the Spain job but won with a straight 7 victories at the Euros.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 17, 2024 9:21:05 GMT
Won the treble with 5/11 players being English, He's probably the best coach of all time, won Trebles in 2 different countries, He gets the big money to spend because he's as close to guaranteed success as you can get At two clubs with financial clouds hanging over them. Brought in to win CL at Bayern where the cash is relatively less flush and failed in that objective. Club and country management very different. Based on getting a hard on for club performance Luis de la Fuente (very similar background to Southgate as it happens) would never have been anywhere near the Spain job but won with a straight 7 victories at the Euros. Might not of won the Champions league at Bayern but he won enough, Bundesliga: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16 DFB-Pokal: 2013–14, 2015–16 UEFA Super Cup: 2013 FIFA Club World Cup: 2013 There is differences between International and Club management, but International managers usually end up being either people who have failed at club level or coming to the end of there tenure of club management as would like a step back but still remain in the Game. Pep would be a unbelieve appointment regardless, the guy is a serial winner and that's proven. You're essentially saying turn him down because he might fail, when everything that hes done in his career would tell you otherwise. It would simply be too good of a opportunity to turn down.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 17, 2024 9:23:04 GMT
Ive heard Frank Lampard's name mentioned twice now, and that is twice too many.
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Jul 17, 2024 9:31:16 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 17, 2024 9:31:16 GMT
At two clubs with financial clouds hanging over them. Brought in to win CL at Bayern where the cash is relatively less flush and failed in that objective. Club and country management very different. Based on getting a hard on for club performance Luis de la Fuente (very similar background to Southgate as it happens) would never have been anywhere near the Spain job but won with a straight 7 victories at the Euros. Might not of won the Champions league at Bayern but he won enough, Bundesliga: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16 DFB-Pokal: 2013–14, 2015–16 UEFA Super Cup: 2013 FIFA Club World Cup: 2013 There is differences between International and Club management, but International managers usually end up being either people who have failed at club level or coming to the end of there tenure of club management as would like a step back but still remain in the Game. Pep would be a unbelieve appointment regardless, the guy is a serial winner and that's proven. You're essentially saying turn him down because he might fail, when everything that hes done in his career would tell you otherwise. It would simply be too good of a opportunity to turn down. I'm simply saying I wouldn't break the bank to get him because we've done that before with 'winners' at Barcelona and it's delivered precisely nothing. The only improvement on Southgate is a trophy and you only get one shot every two years in International knockout competition , which is very different from the PL In international knockout competition Guardiola choked at Bayern - as be did against Chelsea and Real.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 17, 2024 9:46:33 GMT
Might not of won the Champions league at Bayern but he won enough, Bundesliga: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16 DFB-Pokal: 2013–14, 2015–16 UEFA Super Cup: 2013 FIFA Club World Cup: 2013 There is differences between International and Club management, but International managers usually end up being either people who have failed at club level or coming to the end of there tenure of club management as would like a step back but still remain in the Game. Pep would be a unbelieve appointment regardless, the guy is a serial winner and that's proven. You're essentially saying turn him down because he might fail, when everything that hes done in his career would tell you otherwise. It would simply be too good of a opportunity to turn down. I'm simply saying I wouldn't break the bank to get him because we've done that before with 'winners' at Barcelona and it's delivered precisely nothing. The only improvement on Southgate is a trophy and you only get one shot every two years in International knockout competition , which is very different from the PL In international knockout competition Guardiola choked at Bayern - as be did against Chelsea and Real. Choked? City losing to either Chelsea or Real Madrid in a one off game isn't choking. City we're the better side in both them games too. Out of everyone we've been linked with if Pep aint your number one it's mental, The only thing that i don't think it right, i think your national team manager should be from your nation
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Jul 17, 2024 9:51:49 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 17, 2024 9:51:49 GMT
I'm simply saying I wouldn't break the bank to get him because we've done that before with 'winners' at Barcelona and it's delivered precisely nothing. The only improvement on Southgate is a trophy and you only get one shot every two years in International knockout competition , which is very different from the PL In international knockout competition Guardiola choked at Bayern - as be did against Chelsea and Real. Choked? City losing to either Chelsea or Real Madrid in a one off game isn't choking. City we're the better side in both them games too. Out of everyone we've been linked with if Pep aint your number one it's mental, The only thing that i don't think it right, i think your national team manager should be from your nation That's precisely ny point. England were the better side against Italy in Euro 20 Final. England were the better side against France in Qatar. The results of 'one off' games are what define you in international tournament football , not that you gained the most points over 38 games. So yes .... choked.
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