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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 15:01:28 GMT
we could pay more the money the FA have Could but probably won't. And whether he would want to for other reasons irrespective of finance is questionable. He'll be 67 at the next world cup and 69 at the next Euros. Agreed. Going by the US election he's far too young. We need to go for experience, ideally as paraded over there.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 15:14:39 GMT
In order not to repeat errors of the past Southgate should stay at the FA in and advisory role. It’s a risk though having him involved in any way now though. Say if Kanes unhappy with the new manager not picking him and they go to Gareth for advice - what then? If that happened Kane could be as unhappy as he wants. Same as anyone. The new manager could deal with that. I was thinking more a holistic approach related to the scale of the job.
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Jul 16, 2024 15:19:58 GMT
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Post by telfordstokie on Jul 16, 2024 15:19:58 GMT
I’d be happy with Poch if Klopp doesn’t want it - he got a lot out of Kane at Spurs and helped make Palmer a star at Chelsea. Suspect we will end up with Howe or Potter though.
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Post by moon on Jul 16, 2024 15:24:55 GMT
that doesn't make it nigh on impossible though does it? Not impossible but highly unlikely. Apologies for repetition. Bet 365 has England 13/2 for the 2026 WC. In other words the odds on a team other than England are around 2/13. Obviously that's simply a reflection of the betting market. But on the other hand Denise Coates earns something approaching £1m per day predicting the future. Since it started in 1930 only the following teams have won it:
Uruguay, Italy, Germany, Brazil, England, Argentina, France, Spain
Realistically it's highly likely to be one of these teams that lift the cup in 2026, and you can probably rule a few of those out by the time the next tournament starts if indeed they all qualify. There are perhaps a couple more potential winners such as The Netherlands, Portugal, Croatia but based on their recent showings I don't think there is much to fear.
I'd be very surprised if it's lifted by a team that hasn't previously won it, compare the current squads of the previous nations who have won it and I think England can compete with anyone on that list, the one thing we lack is an inspirational manager who will play to our strengths.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 16, 2024 15:33:30 GMT
It’s a risk though having him involved in any way now though. Say if Kanes unhappy with the new manager not picking him and they go to Gareth for advice - what then? If that happened Kane could be as unhappy as he wants. Same as anyone. The new manager could deal with that. I was thinking more a holistic approach related to the scale of the job. I get it, I just think even his presence at St George’s or within the fa in any capacity would be a distraction and possibly cause an unnecessary conflict or challenge for the new manager.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 15:42:31 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 16, 2024 15:45:04 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. Tuchel then
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Post by questionable on Jul 16, 2024 15:51:00 GMT
Apparently, when Gareth passed his resignation to the FA, they passed it back, he then passed it sideways to Bellingham, who fed Kane, who then passed it to the keeper.
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Jul 16, 2024 16:02:53 GMT
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 16, 2024 16:02:53 GMT
Not convinced by Eddie Howe, he has better pedigree than Southgate but that's not saying much, it would be pretty underwhelming. We have a world-class squad, we need a world-class manager to go with it and I don't think there is an Englishman up to the job at the moment. Assuming Guardiola / Klopp are out of the question, I'd be looking at Tuchel or Pochettino. I don't think we should settle for less. We won't get ANOTHER world class manager,in time you will realize what a great manager Southgate was when we are struggling to get out of the group stages of tournament's 👍
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 16:13:54 GMT
" Hi Carlo do you fancy leaving the best job in football for a 50%+ pay cut and probability you won't win anything?" england pay very decent wages About £5m a year So massively less than Ancelotti will be on Ancelotti will also get bonuses for winning stuff, sure we will offer the same but much harder to achieve It's an absolute non starter even less likely than Klopp
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 16:15:54 GMT
I'm not against foreign coaches for England, infact I'm all for it. However, we can't have a German managing us whatsoever. We'll never live it down!
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Post by Biblical on Jul 16, 2024 16:18:44 GMT
He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly. Ancelotti is all about man management skills. He's notably not a control freak and allows his players plenty of freedom on the pitch. He’s renowned for being an excellent man manager that doesn’t put that much emphasis on tactics because he trusts the players with freedom as you say. He’s all about the vibes. Absolutely nothing like Capello.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 16, 2024 16:19:39 GMT
england pay very decent wages About £5m a year So massively less than Ancelotti will be on Ancelotti will also get bonuses for winning stuff, sure we will offer the same but much harder to achieve It's an absolute non starter even less likely than Klopp He would have just immediately ruled himself out of the running for the Brazil job if it was just about money, I think he would consider an international job such as England…..
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 16:23:22 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. Any news on the pope's religious persuasion?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 16:24:26 GMT
If that happened Kane could be as unhappy as he wants. Same as anyone. The new manager could deal with that. I was thinking more a holistic approach related to the scale of the job. I get it, I just think even his presence at St George’s or within the fa in any capacity would be a distraction and possibly cause an unnecessary conflict or challenge for the new manager. I don't think it would. It wouldn't have to be a Shankly situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 16:24:32 GMT
About £5m a year So massively less than Ancelotti will be on Ancelotti will also get bonuses for winning stuff, sure we will offer the same but much harder to achieve It's an absolute non starter even less likely than Klopp He would have just immediately ruled himself out of the running for the Brazil job if it was just about money, I think he would consider an international job such as England….. People are forgetting his age, the fact he's already earned a boat load of cash and that any manager that brings a trophy to England will go down in footballing history, both in this country and beyond. Some things are worth a bit more than money. The England job is one of them IMO.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 16:25:57 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. Tuchel then Haha. The thinnest skinned manager you'll ever see.
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 16:26:47 GMT
He would have just immediately ruled himself out of the running for the Brazil job if it was just about money, I think he would consider an international job such as England….. People are forgetting his age, the fact he's already earned a boat load of cash and that any manager that brings a trophy to England will go down in footballing history, both in this country and beyond. Some things are worth a bit more than money. The England job is one of them IMO. To an Englishman To anyone else it's down the list, well behind Brazil job or Real Madrid
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 16:27:14 GMT
About £5m a year So massively less than Ancelotti will be on Ancelotti will also get bonuses for winning stuff, sure we will offer the same but much harder to achieve It's an absolute non starter even less likely than Klopp He would have just immediately ruled himself out of the running for the Brazil job if it was just about money, I think he would consider an international job such as England….. exactly, he’s on about 9 mil a year at Madrid , i’m sure we would get close to that and considering it’s not really a full time job at his age it might appeal to him , plus he’s already earned enough to not worry to much about money now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 16:27:35 GMT
People are forgetting his age, the fact he's already earned a boat load of cash and that any manager that brings a trophy to England will go down in footballing history, both in this country and beyond. Some things are worth a bit more than money. The England job is one of them IMO. To an Englishman To anyone else it's down the list, well behind Brazil job or Real Madrid No chance. It's a great job, one of the best in the world.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 16:28:55 GMT
To an Englishman To anyone else it's down the list, well behind Brazil job or Real Madrid No chance. It's a great job, one of the best in the world. [ it will be to most mangers
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 16:45:09 GMT
Not impossible but highly unlikely. Apologies for repetition. Bet 365 has England 13/2 for the 2026 WC. In other words the odds on a team other than England are around 2/13. Obviously that's simply a reflection of the betting market. But on the other hand Denise Coates earns something approaching £1m per day predicting the future. Since it started in 1930 only the following teams have won it:
Uruguay, Italy, Germany, Brazil, England, Argentina, France, Spain Realistically it's highly likely to be one of these teams that lift the cup in 2026, and you can probably rule a few of those out by the time the next tournament starts if indeed they all qualify. There are perhaps a couple more potential winners such as The Netherlands, Portugal, Croatia but based on their recent showings I don't think there is much to fear. I'd be very surprised if it's lifted by a team that hasn't previously won it, compare the current squads of the previous nations who have won it and I think England can compete with anyone on that list, the one thing we lack is an inspirational manager who will play to our strengths. Yeah I know who has won it in the past and I broadly agree with who will be in contention. In other words I think it is highly likely that one of those countries will win in 2026. England might or might not have a comparably strong squad. But assuming they do, the odds are heavily against them (or in fact any one of those contenders) actually winning. It's much more likely to be one of the "other" half dozen. It's simply a question of probability, which Denise understands very well.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 16:54:19 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. Any news on the pope's religious persuasion? No, but there is breaking news that Judith Chalmers has a passport.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 16, 2024 16:57:16 GMT
Wonder if Gareth left England by the South gate😁😄
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Post by starkiller on Jul 16, 2024 17:04:26 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. He'll wait for the German job, and rightly so.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 16, 2024 17:09:52 GMT
If that happened Kane could be as unhappy as he wants. Same as anyone. The new manager could deal with that. I was thinking more a holistic approach related to the scale of the job. I get it, I just think even his presence at St George’s or within the fa in any capacity would be a distraction and possibly cause an unnecessary conflict or challenge for the new manager. With a Ferguson or a Wenger type figure that could be a problem but Southgate doesn’t have a big ego, I don’t think it would be a problem. It would be an asset to have that bit of continuity
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 17:11:33 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klopp-not-enter-england-145509421.htmlJurgen Klopp will not be available to replace Gareth Southgate in time for the start of the World Cup qualifiers as the former Liverpool coach has no intention of returning to top-level management for another 12 months. Despite a clamour for him to be a leading candidate to replace Southgate following his resignation as England coach, Telegraph Sport understands Klopp’s position is unchanged and there is no prospect of him performing a U-turn. He'll wait for the German job, and rightly so. Bayern Munich next summer
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 17:16:01 GMT
No chance. It's a great job, one of the best in the world. [ it will be to most mangers A huge number But not to the very best which Ancelotti is
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Post by serpico on Jul 16, 2024 17:19:41 GMT
Southgate almost got it right for England, but like many managers before him he wouldn’t drop the big named players despite them being woeful at times! Some of his decisions were baffling! Persisting with kane was his worst offence though, we essentially played with no forward line which resulted in the crab like football as there was nobody to pass it to, nobody running in behind, no movement up top!
He doesn’t deserve any more time, we need a manager who will be brave and more adventurous, I think we’ll look back at this period and think what could have been, I’m convinced we had the players to beat Spain but the manager didn’t show any bravery, played it safe and we paid the price.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 17:22:40 GMT
[ it will be to most mangers A huge number But not to the very best which Ancelotti is disagree
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