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Post by Pugsley on Jul 16, 2024 12:55:47 GMT
How does Ancelotti not get English culture (whatever that actually is I might add)? That makes zero sense to me...... He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly. He's a brilliant man manager.
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Jul 16, 2024 12:58:12 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 16, 2024 12:58:12 GMT
OK if not klop what about potter with experienced assistant
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 13:00:45 GMT
OK if not klop what about potter with experienced assistant Steve Maclaren?
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 16, 2024 13:04:31 GMT
OK if not klop what about potter with experienced assistant Brian Potter / Jerry St Clair dream team?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 13:11:49 GMT
talksport.com/football/1969667/eddie-howe-england-manager-gareth-southgate-replacement-fa/Eddie Howe would consider an offer from the Football Association to become the new England manager, talkSPORT understands. Other homegrown contenders include the out of work Graham Potter and victorious under-21 European Championship winning coach Lee Carsley, as exclusively revealed by talkSPORT earlier this summer. Wolves boss Gary O'Neil is also thought to have admirers within the FA.
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Jul 16, 2024 13:13:23 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 16, 2024 13:13:23 GMT
Not sure I get the views about someone needing to understand English football culture to lead the national team. What exactly does knowing English football culture give you against Spain for example?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2024 13:13:51 GMT
How does Ancelotti not get English culture (whatever that actually is I might add)? That makes zero sense to me...... He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly. He's a classic man manager, hence why he's perfect for the big egos of Real Madrid. I don't think "tactically" he's amazing if I'm honest.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 16, 2024 13:18:18 GMT
How does Ancelotti not get English culture (whatever that actually is I might add)? That makes zero sense to me...... He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly.You're kidding right?
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 13:52:42 GMT
Not sure I get the views about someone needing to understand English football culture to lead the national team. What exactly does knowing English football culture give you against Spain for example? I suppose if we wound the clock back 30 or so years, it might have been helpful for the manager to have an understanding of the drinking/gambling culture. Today I don't know. But I am plumping up the cushions to hear the answer.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 13:53:48 GMT
Neither had the Spain manager So you're backing Carsley or Steve Cooper for the job then? I am backing Lee Carsley
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Jul 16, 2024 13:55:36 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Jul 16, 2024 13:55:36 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 14:03:49 GMT
How does Ancelotti not get English culture (whatever that actually is I might add)? That makes zero sense to me...... He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly. Ancelotti is all about man management skills. He's notably not a control freak and allows his players plenty of freedom on the pitch.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 16, 2024 14:04:39 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record. In order not to repeat errors of the past Southgate should stay at the FA in and advisory role.
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Post by ct1 on Jul 16, 2024 14:05:06 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record. win something and you have improved on it!
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Jul 16, 2024 14:07:58 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Jul 16, 2024 14:07:58 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record. win something and you have improved on it! Piece of piss winning a international tournament isn't it. Only one manager in the history of English football has done better than Southgate.
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Post by moon on Jul 16, 2024 14:09:11 GMT
Not convinced by Eddie Howe, he has better pedigree than Southgate but that's not saying much, it would be pretty underwhelming.
We have a world-class squad, we need a world-class manager to go with it and I don't think there is an Englishman up to the job at the moment.
Assuming Guardiola / Klopp are out of the question, I'd be looking at Tuchel or Pochettino. I don't think we should settle for less.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:19:23 GMT
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Post by ct1 on Jul 16, 2024 14:19:23 GMT
win something and you have improved on it! Piece of piss winning a international tournament isn't it. Only one manager in the history of English football has done better than Southgate. that doesn't make it nigh on impossible though does it?
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Jul 16, 2024 14:22:51 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 14:22:51 GMT
I'd honestly be going all out for Ancelotti. He had his head turned by the Brazil job recently and he's at that time of life where a national job would suit him down to the ground. Has 18 months left on his contract but what more can he achieve at Real Madrid, I'm sure it would be negotiable? good shout that
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Jul 16, 2024 14:24:47 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 14:24:47 GMT
If we can't attract a manager like that off the back of going so close many times in a row then we never will. This reminds of some Stoke fans in the PL when they constantly did our club down when we were looking for new managers. "No way will we get him" Why not? The England job is the best job in world football. One tournament win and you go down in football history and folklore. " Hi Carlo do you fancy leaving the best job in football for a 50%+ pay cut and probability you won't win anything?" england pay very decent wages
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Jul 16, 2024 14:28:02 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 14:28:02 GMT
Why the fucking hell would Klopp want it? did I say he did that was my personal preference and why swear in your reply... To highlight the absurdity of it.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:28:29 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 16, 2024 14:28:29 GMT
Jurgen Klopp la la la
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Jul 16, 2024 14:29:06 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 16, 2024 14:29:06 GMT
He's an old fashioned tactician. Totally comparable to Capello. Our players will just play with fear again under someone like him. He doesn't really foster the we are in it together feeling in any club he's been at. He's a tactician yes but he's not known for man management skills particularly. He's a brilliant man manager. A greasy Eyetie though. The daily mail would never stand for it.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:33:26 GMT
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 14:33:26 GMT
Piece of piss winning a international tournament isn't it. Only one manager in the history of English football has done better than Southgate. that doesn't make it nigh on impossible though does it? Not impossible but highly unlikely. Apologies for repetition. Bet 365 has England 13/2 for the 2026 WC. In other words the odds on a team other than England are around 2/13. Obviously that's simply a reflection of the betting market. But on the other hand Denise Coates earns something approaching £1m per day predicting the future.
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 16, 2024 14:36:33 GMT
Got to be Sarina Wiegman! You know it makes sense... Makes no sense whatsoever Of course it does! Coaching the Lioness's men's team should be a doddle after the real thing
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Jul 16, 2024 14:37:40 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 16, 2024 14:37:40 GMT
did I say he did that was my personal preference and why swear in your reply... To highlight the absurdity of it. Not sure he'd be particularly successful either. He gets what he gets at club level through the sheer intensity of being in his players faces day in day out over a sustained period. International football isn't like that.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:39:15 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 16, 2024 14:39:15 GMT
" Hi Carlo do you fancy leaving the best job in football for a 50%+ pay cut and probability you won't win anything?" england pay very decent wages Still half what he's currently getting. More free time though.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:39:58 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 14:39:58 GMT
england pay very decent wages Still half what he's currently getting. More free time though. we could pay more the money the FA have
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 16, 2024 14:43:20 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record. In order not to repeat errors of the past Southgate should stay at the FA in and advisory role. Southgate will be offered a big fat wedge by Ineos to advise Jim Ratcliffe's on his football interests at Man Utd and Nice. Wouldn't blame him for accepting either.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:49:44 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 16, 2024 14:49:44 GMT
Still half what he's currently getting. More free time though. we could pay more the money the FA have Could but probably won't. And whether he would want to for other reasons irrespective of finance is questionable. He'll be 67 at the next world cup and 69 at the next Euros.
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Jul 16, 2024 14:52:39 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 16, 2024 14:52:39 GMT
Southgate has been a class act right through his career. It was the right time to move on now, but it's going to be a nigh on impossible task to improve on his record. In order not to repeat errors of the past Southgate should stay at the FA in and advisory role. It’s a risk though having him involved in any way now though. Say if Kanes unhappy with the new manager not picking him and they go to Gareth for advice - what then?
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